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Nano 03-19-2012 11:15 AM

Full Metal Doors, Half Metal Doors, All Cloth Doors
 
Hey all,

My jeep came with a hard top and full metal doors. I've since gone to a soft top exclusively, but I'm still rocking the full metal doors, which is fine for the winter in Georgia.

I like going doorless, leaving them at home, when I see a number rainless days in a row.

My problem is that I'd like to go doorless more often but leaving the doors at home could catch me in a flash storm and carrying the full metal doors in the back is also undesirable(scratches, weight & the would take alot of room).

I'm wondering about full cloth doors. Are they light and simple enough to carry in the back for those flash storms? How well do they seal with factory style door surrounds? Are half metal doors a better option? I'm just looking for any input/experience any of you have had. Thanks!

Jeepneck 03-19-2012 11:37 AM

I personally don't like the look of the half metal doors. I actually sold mine and got full metal ones. Look more clean and better all around. IMO. But every one has there own opinion for everything

jrmiller 03-19-2012 11:45 AM

Half doors all the way. The full cloth doors will store in the back of the Jeep but are not as weatherproof as half metal doors. And with the uppers out and stored in the Jeep it's close to having the doors off. I hate my full doors and would love to trade them for halves but haven't yet.

john4ward 03-19-2012 12:09 PM

I use full metal doors from November to April in Massachusetts. In the rest of the months, I use the Bestop cloth doors with the zipper window. Aside from the inability to lock them, the cloth doors are great... wouldnt work so well in the winter up here though. I feel like I have the best of both worlds....

bcpaddler 03-19-2012 12:25 PM

Bought my jeep with half doors... I wish I had full doors as well.

I did get some Bestop soft doors and I absolutely love them! They're easy to get on and off - you can carry them with you and they don't take up much room. And I've run them in some bad down pours, and haven't had them leak on me yet. If you do decide on getting some, don't expect them to come straight out of the box and fit... I had to "form" them to fit correctly. They guys at Bestop customer service were great and gave me good advice on how to get them to fit.

Crazyflyingplastics 03-19-2012 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jrmiller (Post 2156326)
Half doors all the way. The full cloth doors will store in the back of the Jeep but are not as weatherproof as half metal doors. And with the uppers out and stored in the Jeep it's close to having the doors off. I hate my full doors and would love to trade them for halves but haven't yet.

let me know if you ever want to trade. My last TJ I had switched to full doors and loved them. A heck of a lot heavier to remove than the half doors, but much quieter on the hwy.

02Prove 03-19-2012 02:35 PM

Everyone has their preference when it comes to Jeep doors... If you want to keep your full doors the soft uppers & lowers will serve their purpose and you can yank 'em and throw them in the back when not in use.

Another Guy In A Jeep 03-19-2012 02:43 PM

I use full metal doors and Full soft doors. You can also just use the bottom half of the soft doors also. I love the look of the full soft doors and the mobility of them is AMAZING. They are also cheaper than half metals so its double the fun. I highly recommend them.

Once Far Off 03-19-2012 02:56 PM

My friend has a 06 TJ and rocks the full soft doors in the summer. I've borrowed his Jeep and they definitely fit in the back seat. I'm saving up to get some for mine. I think they're great and I haven't noticed any leaks when it's raining. The only problem is the latch to open the door takes a little bit of a special touch, but it's worth it IMO.

Another Guy In A Jeep 03-19-2012 04:50 PM

^ yah I have to pull the door a bit down then pull on it. Soft doors cannot be slammed shut, they are relaxed into a shut position.

opcocrg 03-19-2012 06:26 PM

I bought my TJ in 2004 and it came with full steel doors and a hard top. I have been running a soft top and full soft doors since 2005 and sold both the hard top and full steel doors. I use my soft set up all year including during winter without any problems.....my heater works great. I do have the occasional leak hear and there but the top has been on for 7 years and has never seen the inside of a garage. It sees 100+ degree humid as hell summers, and winters in the single digits so I can't really complain about it's condition. The soft doors are very convenient and store behind the rear seat or behind the front seats pretty easily. Although the bottoms can be used without the uppers....if I take the uppers off the bottoms come off too. i don't see the point in removing the uppers and leaving the lowers, you might as well just unzip the window if your going to do that. For me....it's all or nothing. If it's nice enough to ride around with the window open then the doors come completely off.

Once Far Off 03-27-2012 06:03 PM

I'm curious about metal half doors. Can they get tossed in the back as well, or are they too bulky?

Hammerdown 03-27-2012 06:14 PM

Who sells half steel doors?

LilYeller 03-27-2012 06:28 PM

I hated my full soft doors, they were a pain to close and they didnt seal very well. I had them for about a month before I sold them and now Im using my full hard doors or just going completely doorless. Currently looking for a good set of half doors tho. I like the lines of the half doors with the uppers off and the top down. But not so much with the uppers on.

hartattack 03-27-2012 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammerdown
Who sells half steel doors?

I have been looking as well ha ha that's why I'm trading a guy on here, u might find em on eBay

Hammond_Egger 03-27-2012 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by john4ward (Post 2156388)
Aside from the inability to lock them, the cloth doors are great....

I just picked up a set of Bestop 2 piece doors last week..they now come with lockable handles! You might want to call them and see how much they would charge you for them.

Also, they are a pain to "mold" aka fit. I spent some more time tonight adjusting them, I think I am finally happy with the fit now.
A nice storm is rolling in tomorrow, will see how well they seal (just a little tiny squirt on the mat so far).

3mangos 03-27-2012 07:50 PM

j just ot bthe bestop 2 piece soft doors. wow. bad call. they go on and come off fair enough. but try driving over 40 and the wind starts pulling them away from the body. bestop blew me off when i emailed my concerns. check out youtube before buying. i dropped $900 for new doors. search soft jeep doors, dor problems, etc etc on youtube. please do this before spending a lot of money

Jonny15 03-27-2012 09:17 PM

To me its full doors or no doors.

I had half doors on my old tj and i would never go back to them i think they're pointless...you dont have full door comfort with the uppers on and you arn't doorless with the uppers off. I always thought running with the uppers off was like having a window down, so why not just go with full doors?

The full doors on my new tj are MUCH more quite, seal better, and look better imo. I just take them off when i want the open air feeling which is way more fun than having uppers off of half doors. Plus no PITA zipper windows with full doors.

To be honest i never understood soft doors, i just think they're a waste of money. Why run a piece of canvas instead of running full or half doors deppending on what you have and pulling them off when you want them off? They dont seal well, dont off any security, and just seem like an unnecessary expense when you already have doors.

As for a flash storm, ive been caught plenty of times in storms with no doors and as long as you throw the soft top up you'd be really suprised how dry you stay. Very little water enters the jeep if any, mostly just a little road spray from the tires, but nothing that will soak your clothes.

In summary my vote is run full doors and pull them off when you want the open air feeling :)

Jonny15 03-27-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Once Far Off
I'm curious about metal half doors. Can they get tossed in the back as well, or are they too bulky?

It'd be tough...they're still pretty bulky and you'd probably end up scratching them unless you stored them just right without a rear seat installed and strapped them down.

LilYeller 03-27-2012 10:26 PM

This is definately one of those things where you always want what you dont have. If your Jeep comes with full doors, youll want half doors. If it comes with half doors, youll want full doors. and so on, I guess its a Jeep thing lol.

Remus_Redbone 03-27-2012 10:52 PM

Half doors all the way for me. I can pull the upper halves and store behind the rear seat in about 1 minute. I can have them back on almost as fast. The opening with the uppers off is as open as I want. The only downside for me is opening and closing the plastic windows in cold or rainy weather. It's slow and clumsy. I had sliders on my '97 that solved the issue, but I haven't sprung for a set on the '02 yet.....

SurfKaster 03-28-2012 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonny15 (Post 2189811)
To me its full doors or no doors.

Precisely why I traded my full doors for half doors. Everyone is gonna have a different opinion on this subject.

I was in the same situation. I bought a Jeep with a hardtop & full doors because I thought it was what I wanted. Eventually I got a soft top because the HT was such a pain to remove. When I traded for half doors & got three sets up uppers (two being sliders) I thought I had what I wanted. Now 2 years later my hardtop has been hanging in my garage for almost a year & the sliders I thought I wanted spend the majority of their time on the wall. Personally, If I had the cash today to order a Jeep of choice I wouldn't bother with full doors or a hard top.

If you're considering buying a new set of soft doors, then I suggest biding your time until you get deal on half doors off CL. They come up more often than not & many times cheaper. I've seen several sets with with no uppers for as low as 250 & with uppers for around 500.

Ichabod 03-28-2012 07:49 AM

Totally a personal preferance issue.

I had the half/soft uppers on mine.

Drove me crazy trying to find somewhere to prop my left arm while driving. (nuts, I know)

They were noisy as hell and leaked. I also hated unzipping the window at a drive through or ATM when it's cold, and the windows were good and stiff. Can't believe I didn't snap one in two.

Swapped for full doors with a guy here on the forum who hated the full doors, and we were both much happier!

ipleadda2nd 03-28-2012 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by LilYeller (Post 2190213)
This is definately one of those things where you always want what you dont have. If your Jeep comes with full doors, youll want half doors. If it comes with half doors, youll want full doors. and so on, I guess its a Jeep thing lol.

I have been suspecting that in my own mind. I guess I need all the options to be satisfied.

hartattack 03-28-2012 11:58 AM

Ok so what did you guys do when u traded full for half did you get the locks changed?

Ichabod 03-28-2012 12:26 PM

Actually, I had to paint mine black, so I waited til then, popped the cylinders and took 'em to a locksmith and had them re-keyed to match my ignition key. ($20)

If I hadn't had to take the doors apart to paint, I woulda just left them alone, since I have a soft top, I don't lock them often anyway.

02Prove 03-28-2012 12:29 PM

I hated the full doors... Traded for half doors and my only complaint was the zippered windows when it was cold out. Got sliders and it was all bueno!

It is truly a preference thing. I ran doorless on the trails but any other time I had the half doors on. Something to be said about being able to pull over and button up everything if you get caught in a pop shower.

SurfKaster 03-28-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hartattack (Post 2192013)
Ok so what did you guys do when u traded full for half did you get the locks changed?

We swapped cylinders out the day we swapped doors.

hartattack 03-28-2012 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder Monkey

We swapped cylinders out the day we swapped doors.

Could you do a write up of how to?

02Prove 03-28-2012 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder Monkey (Post 2192471)
We swapped cylinders out the day we swapped doors.

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