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SIXJAK 03-26-2012 10:01 AM

Need advice on purchase
 
Looking to purchase brand new Wrangler. She wants the new gecko green. For now it's going to mainly be the wife's car but in a couple years when hopefully she grows tired of it it'll become mine to lift and mod. Having fun with a 2010 Camaro currently.

We're not interested in a loaded to the hilt model. My wife prefers cloth seats and wants Sirius radio and that gecko green paint. Outside of that she doesn't care what else it comes with. Is the max tow kit worth getting? I have a 20' pontoon and some other water toys. Is the locking rear diff worth getting or are their better aftermarket options engine wise? Also how are the aftermarket exhaust options for the Wrangler? LT's, HFC's doable? Full catbacks available? Who are the major players for CAI's? Almost purchased a red 11 sport that was lifted (3"?) with oversized wheels and tires but it was too "high" and "hardcore" for the wife to use everyday. I thought the stance was about perfect and it still rode decently. It had a K&N CAI which seemed ok but it looked kinda cheap to me. Sorry for all the noob questions. Last 4x4 was a 96 3/4 ton Suburban.

TrueNorth 03-26-2012 12:32 PM

Tow package is a good idea for lower gears, stiffer suspension and LSD equipped rear axle.
Wranglers in general on not great for towing. OK for small loads but they have a very limited weight capacity. Add bigger tires and lift it gets worse.

Check the towing capacity of the Jeep against the weight of your pontoon boat AND trailer before you buy it.

List of mods and brands that support the JK series is only limited by your budget.
It's virtually endless and growing every day.

JeeperJake 03-26-2012 04:07 PM

Tow group YES. Secret is having stuff that fits Mfg rating.
LSD: deal breaker without it forget it. IMHO.

kbwwolf 03-26-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SIXJAK (Post 2183073)
Also how are the aftermarket exhaust options for the Wrangler? LT's, HFC's doable? Full catbacks available? Who are the major players for CAI's? Almost purchased a red 11 sport that was lifted (3"?) with oversized wheels and tires but it was too "high" and "hardcore" for the wife to use everyday. I thought the stance was about perfect and it still rode decently. It had a K&N CAI which seemed ok but it looked kinda cheap to me.

Generally, performance mods like exhausts and CAI's are worthless on a Wrangler. That's my opinion. Plenty of peeps do em, but for every person who raves about em, you'll find several who spent the $$, considered it a waste, and went back to stock.

Welcome to WF. :thumb:

Please, for the sake of your neighbors, consider a Gecko with the black top and fenders.

Want to see Gecko? Wow!

jsmithtx 03-26-2012 09:19 PM

A 20' pontoon might be a bit much for a JK. Here the wind is bad so the drag would be too much for a wrangler in my opinion. Even with the tow group. I have a Tundra for pulling.

Casotakar1229 03-26-2012 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kbwwolf (Post 2184373)
Generally, performance mods like exhausts and CAI's are worthless on a Wrangler. That's my opinion. Plenty of peeps do em, but for every person who raves about em, you'll find several who spent the $$, considered it a waste, and went back to stock.

Welcome to WF. :thumb:

Please, for the sake of your neighbors, consider a Gecko with the black top and fenders.

Want to see Gecko? Wow!


yes. CAI is definitely a waste, anyone who claims HP gains is being claimed by the placebo effect. (you MIGHT feel gains for the first 30-40 seconds of driving until the engine warms up lol).

good luck with your purchase! gecko looks pretty ridiculous in a good way :thumb:
oh and welcome to WF!

12JKUR 03-27-2012 08:16 AM

Bad news...

Your wife will not tire and you will be stuck w/a camaro and no fun.

Hate to be you my friend :~(>

SIXJAK 03-27-2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 12JKUR
Bad news...

Your wife will not tire and you will be stuck w/a camaro and no fun.

Hate to be you my friend :~(>

LOL I love my Camaro. Getting ready to SC it.

The Missus is pretty fickle. I hope you're wrong friend, otherwise maybe I'll have to go get my own Jeep. Ha ha.

As for towing my pontoon I live on Lake Tanecomo so I'd mainly use it to yank it out of LT when it's low. My 2WD C1500 doesn't do so well when it's rear tires are in mud. Im about 5 miles away from table rock lake so maybe it might be ok for short distances? It would be nice to only have to take one car to the lake when we just take the pontoon out. If not no biggie. It should be good to tow a couple of Wave Runners, yes.

SIXJAK 03-27-2012 06:16 PM

Sorry for noob double post.

12JKUR 03-27-2012 09:45 PM

Me thinks a Camaro is gonna look funny w/the doors off, tryin to be a jeep, havin wannabe fun.

tabber02 03-27-2012 09:57 PM

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Looking to purchase brand new Wrangler. She wants the new gecko green. For now it's going to mainly be the wife's car...
:eek:
We're not interested in a loaded to the hilt model.

and another kitten bites the dust! no need to go nuts they're all plenty capable. no need to get a sahara or rubi if you're unsure. :whistling:

SIXJAK 03-28-2012 02:13 AM

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Me thinks a Camaro is gonna look funny w/the doors off, tryin to be a jeep, havin wannabe fun.

Now that's funny. I tell ya I'm new to this whole Jeep concept but I'm diggin learning about it.

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I think this will compliment the Camaro nicely or vice versa.

ScottMaganay 03-28-2012 02:15 AM

Here the wind is bad so the drag would be too much for a wrangler in my opinion.
http://www.australialuxe.info/013-1.jpg

SIXJAK 03-28-2012 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tabber02

and another kitten bites the dust! no need to go nuts they're all plenty capable. no need to get a sahara or rubi if you're unsure. :whistling:

What mean? Love the kitty btw.

SIXJAK 04-24-2012 02:06 AM

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Well we did it. Two Fridays ago we ordered a Gecko Green 4dr Rubicon. Wife had to have the 5AT, remote start, cloth seats, black fenders and black Freedom top.

My had to haves were Rubicon trim, Max Tow, connectivity, the 7 speaker stereo-thank u Rubicon package, and seat heaters. Couldn't care less about nav or leather.



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We dig green.



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The dealer has agreed to paint the grill black like for 250.00.

Celtic 04-24-2012 02:59 AM

First and foremost, welcome to the Wrangler family. I'm thinking you must be ok because you are buying your wife a new Rubi while you "settle" for the family hand-me-down Camaro.

Anyway, I saw your note about your dealer agreeing to paint your grill black for $250. That was very nice and considerate of them to be so agreeable with their new customer who is plopping down +\- $40K in their showroom.

Oh btw, here is a link to an entire new black grille online for $82.45. Granted, the ad from Discount Body Parts states it is for an '07 - '11, but you could give them a call and ask if it will fit your inbound '12. Swapping grills is easy and should take less than an hour.

Now, you will have about $160 left for your mod fund!

Discount Body Parts - wrangler grilles

SIXJAK 04-24-2012 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Celtic
First and foremost, welcome to the Wrangler family. I'm thinking you must be ok because you are buying your wife a new Rubi while you "settle" for the family hand-me-down Camaro.

Anyway, I saw your note about your dealer agreeing to paint your grill black for $250. That was very nice and considerate of them to be so agreeable with their new customer who is plopping down +\- $40K in their showroom.

Oh btw, here is a link to an entire new black grille online for $82.45. Granted, the ad from Discount Body Parts states it is for an '07 - '11, but you could give them a call and ask if it will fit your inbound '12. Swapping grills is easy and should take less than an hour.

Now, you will have about $160 left for your mod fund!

Discount Body Parts - wrangler grilles

Well thank you for the warm welcome. Slummin it in the Camaro will be difficult but I'll manage. I'm taking one for the team.

I am good friends with the GM so I am getting the Rubi at dealer invoice. And I'm paying cash though I don't think he knows that yet. I think he was counting on me financing it.

I appreciate the link and I'll look into it however my experience with aftermarket body parts is so so. I'd prefer to keep the body OEM. OTOH having both grills might be cool. I'll call them cuz yeah Weathertech floor liners cost 169.90. In my book they are essential. Have already ordered them so nobody come and burst my bubble and tell me that there are some Chinese knockoffs that are better quality for 29.95

The pic with my Camaro is of a 2dr gecko Sport at another dealer. I wish the green was the same color of my stripes but at least I know exactly what it looks like now. I like it and the missus loves it.

SIXJAK 04-24-2012 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SIXJAK

Well thank you for the warm welcome. Slummin it in the Camaro will be difficult but I'll manage. I'm taking one for the team.

I am good friends with the GM so I am getting the Rubi at dealer invoice. And I'm paying cash though I don't think he knows that yet. I think he was counting on me financing it.

I appreciate the link and I'll look into it however my experience with aftermarket body parts is so so. I'd prefer to keep the body OEM. OTOH having both grills might be cool. I'll call them cuz yeah Weathertech floor liners cost 169.90. In my book they are essential. Have already ordered them so nobody come and burst my bubble and tell me that there are some Chinese knockoffs that are better quality for 29.95

The pic with my Camaro is of a 2dr gecko Sport at another dealer. I wish the green was the same color of my stripes but at least I know exactly what it looks like now. I like it and the missus loves it.

Also can anybody tell me if the stock OEM grill is metal or plastic? Might just go down to the dealer tonight and knock on a Jeep grill to see what it sez. And no I won't be telling my wife what I'm really doing.

SIXJAK 04-25-2012 01:54 PM

Plastic.

Celtic 04-25-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SIXJAK (Post 2299091)
I am good friends with the GM so I am getting the Rubi at dealer invoice.

Sixjack,

Not questioning how much the GM thinks of you as a friend, but you can pay less (one percent under invoice) and he can make more of a profit (because the dealership gets a kickback directly from Chrysler) if you hurry up and sign up for the Tread Lightly Chrysler Affiliiate Program discount.

pkmcd99 04-25-2012 07:06 PM

Driving the rigs you have, you should check the new grand cherokee srt8

Dylanjwhall 04-25-2012 07:53 PM

2 Skis and about 200lbs of spare parts in the case and it towed it just fine for 300 miles :thumb: http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/...jwhall/018.jpg

Posts On Percocet 04-25-2012 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Celtic (Post 2302382)
Sixjack,

Not questioning how much the GM thinks of you as a friend, but you can pay less (one percent under invoice) and he can make more of a profit (because the dealership gets a kickback directly from Chrysler) if you hurry up and sign up for the Tread Lightly Chrysler Affiliiate Program discount.

Yeah, you should be able to getter a better deal than invoice. Especially if he is your friend. A hit, I just mentioned the 1% under invoice deal and they gave it to me, and I don't have any options except air and auto. The more the jeep cost, it seems the more you can get it for under invoice.

cmg427 04-25-2012 08:24 PM

Like they said you can get under invoice easy. Also why pay cash when they have 0% financing, even if you have the money keep it in your pocket

SIXJAK 04-26-2012 12:47 AM

Thank you. I have been wondering if invoice is in fact the best deal. Sounds like not. Am I getting raped? No. BTW, invoice for my Jeep as optioned is 35,155.00

As for financing at 0%? I get all that but I'd rather just get it over with and be done with it. I guess if I really wanted to be wise, I'd wait til I can buy one used in a couple of years but it seems 1-2 year old Jeeps are almost as much as new Jeeps.

I've allocated money towards this purchase. 0% is limited to 3 yrs so what am I looking at? An $800.00 a month payment with nothing down. I'm sticking to the plan but I am going to talk to him about 1% under. Thanks for the info.

SIXJAK 04-26-2012 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by pkmcd99
Driving the rigs you have, you should check the new grand cherokee srt8

I like the SRT8 it drives pretty nice but I would never take something like that offload LOL. The Wrangler is such a different experience than the Camaro to drive. To me the SRT8 in a lot of ways would just be more of the same. It is very BOSS though.

SIXJAK 04-26-2012 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dylanjwhall
2 Skis and about 200lbs of spare parts in the case and it towed it just fine for 300 miles :thumb:

Good to know, thanks.

pkmcd99 04-26-2012 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SIXJAK

I like the SRT8 it drives pretty nice but I would never take something like that offload LOL. The Wrangler is such a different experience than the Camaro to drive. To me the SRT8 in a lot of ways would just be more of the same. It is very BOSS though.

You could be the first to have the new srt8 on 40's

SIXJAK 04-26-2012 10:41 AM

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You could be the first to have the new srt8 on 40's

That would rock!


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Is that the crush I see in your avatar?

pkmcd99 04-26-2012 11:37 AM

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That would rock!

Is that the crush I see in your avatar?

Its the mango from 2010. Looks like a burnt orange in the shade and a bright tangerine in the day. Thanks for the praise :)


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