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Jervboy 03-30-2012 09:29 PM

Question - Lift or no lift
 
Here we go! Lets see if this catches on. Lifting, why and what is the expected monetary investment for such an endevour? Other than making your Jeep look bad ass the other main reason is for off roading clearance? And to be ability to put on bigger tires correct? What say you? All you lifted, bad ass, hard core Jeepers out there!

Casotakar1229 03-30-2012 09:36 PM

not lifted, yet. I am coming to this decision soon...it was between a lift and a rear bumper for my next mod, but I think I am leaning towards the lift so it balances everything out and so I can get a bit of a stiffer ride. and you don't need a lift to run 33's and some guys on here I've seen run 35's, but they are pushing it really close, you'd have to have fender flares at minimum to not rub ALL the time.

4fit 03-30-2012 09:46 PM

Investment will be dependant on type of lift, how tall the lift is, how complete the lift is, etc. For example, a leveling kit can be had for $130, a 2.5 budget boost can be had for around $350, a 2.5" coil lift with shock extensions can be had for $500, a 2.5" with shocks can be had around $650, etc, etc, etc. This pattern will continue all the way up to $5k+ kits. Depends on what you want.

The main purpose of the lift is to allow for larger diameter tires. The only way to gain true ground clearance is larger tires. This is because the lift kit does not raise the lowest part of the Jeep; the pumpkins. Yes, you get additional frame clearance, but not true ground clearance.

The mistake a lot of people make is buying tires to fit the lift. This should be done the other way around.

Casotakar1229 03-30-2012 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 4fit (Post 2201847)
Investment will be dependant on type of lift, how tall the lift is, how complete the lift is, etc. For example, a leveling kit can be had for $130, a 2.5 budget boost can be had for around $350, a 2.5" coil lift with shock extensions can be had for $500, a 2.5" with shocks can be had around $650, etc, etc, etc. This pattern will continue all the way up to $5k+ kits. Depends on what you want.

The main purpose of the lift is to allow for larger diameter tires. The only way to gain true ground clearance is larger tires. This is because the lift kit does not raise the lowest part of the Jeep; the pumpkins. Yes, you get additional frame clearance, but not true ground clearance.

The mistake a lot of people make is buying tires to fit the lift. This should be done the other way around.


gotta get my lift in preparation for my 35's!!! :D:D:D:D

Gate53 03-30-2012 09:51 PM

A lift is a good thing if you need it. Now that being said if you don't know if you need it that should answer your question. A lift as you said is to give clearance to larger tires. If you only want them for mall crawling fine, if you want them for offroad then think about the center of gravity being raised. Raising the COG cuts down on handling on or offroad and and if you are new at offroad could tear up your Jeep and maybe get you hurt. Your Jeep is very good in the original configuration. If your dead set to spend money spend it on under armor that will protect your vehicle and if your like me most mistakes you make will be forgiven. I got lucky and dented most of the components under my Jeep before I armored it but no holes. Put a hole in your oil pan and the billl will make you weep. I guess what I'm trying to say is that by the time your offroad skills catch up to those of your Jeep you'll know just what you need and want to do.

4fit 03-30-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Casotakar1229

gotta get my lift in preparation for my 35's!!! :D:D:D:D

See, that is the way to do it. You know which size tires you want, so you are going to get the lift that will work for those size tires. All too often do I see someone slap on a 4.5" lift and then they are saying they have to get 37s just so it looks right. Well, if they had planned to only go 35s from the start, they could have went with a 2.5" lift and saved a ton of headache and cash.

ESP 03-30-2012 10:02 PM

Lift it + put the biggest tire on you can find + grab a beer + call it a day.

Casotakar1229 03-30-2012 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 4fit (Post 2201867)
See, that is the way to do it. You know which size tires you want, so you are going to get the lift that will work for those size tires. All too often do I see someone slap on a 4.5" lift and then they are saying they have to get 37s just so it looks right. Well, if they had planned to only go 35s from the start, they could have went with a 2.5" lift and saved a ton of headache and cash.

oh, dude, 37's no way haha. I am going 35's...I LOVE that look with the 2 door and the 2.5" lift. it is IDEAL imo and will be PLENTY for whatever off roading I'll be doing. I think I may just go goodyear duratracs that way I can used my tread discount. but I need to find the 2.5 I want. I am thinking hit up tf and the bilstein shocks...looks like a lot of members have been happy with that set up and looks to be around my budget as well.

kjeeper10 03-30-2012 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 4fit

See, that is the way to do it. You know which size tires you want, so you are going to get the lift that will work for those size tires. All too often do I see someone slap on a 4.5" lift and then they are saying they have to get 37s just so it looks right. Well,


"if they had planned to only go 35s from the start, they could have went with a 2.5" lift and saved a ton of headache and cash"


:wavey:

For you Cas

Casotakar1229 03-30-2012 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ESP (Post 2201899)
Lift it + put the biggest set of tires on there you can + grab a beer + call it a day.

for me that would be a

2.5" + 35's + corona with extra lime (don't hate) :thumb:

Casotakar1229 03-30-2012 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 2201904)
:wavey:

For you Cas

baaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh, there it is...I knew he would poke in here and do that...thanks a lot, now I will have to go through my whole workout tonight focused on 35's. haha.

ESP 03-30-2012 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Casotakar1229 (Post 2201909)
for me that would be a

2.5" + 35's + corona with extra lime (don't hate) :thumb:

Negra Modelo this evening.

kjeeper10 03-30-2012 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Casotakar1229

baaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh, there it is...I knew he would poke in here and do that...thanks a lot, now I will have to go through my whole workout tonight focused on 35's. haha.

:firedevil:

Casotakar1229 03-30-2012 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ESP (Post 2201917)
Negra Modelo this evening.

:thumb:

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 2201918)
:firedevil:

:rofl: dislike.



OP, moral of your thread, get a lift!! great things can be achieved with one!

4fit 03-30-2012 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ESP

Negra Modelo this evening.

Red Oak for me. :thumb:

pasteris71 03-30-2012 10:16 PM

Do it right the first time. I reviewed a ton of lifts and ended up going with the Rubicon Express 3.5" super flex lift. It was $1649.00 plus $600 install. I go off roasting, use it for DD and on the beach. I have not had a single problem and the ride is awesome. My only regret was not going with 35" tires but that's coming.

ESP 03-30-2012 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pasteris71 (Post 2201940)
Do it right the first time. I reviewed a ton of lifts and ended up going with the Rubicon Express 3.5" super flex lift. It was $1649.00 plus $600 install. I go off roasting, use it for DD and on the beach. I have not had a single problem and the ride is awesome. My only regret was not going with 35" tires but that's coming.

Front DS? :whistling:

snikt 03-30-2012 10:39 PM

Why didn't they put bigger tires or more lift stock? Is 32in like the balance for using it on-road and off-road?

If you lift 2.5" and put 35s on, how much different would it be on-road?

ESP 03-30-2012 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by snikt (Post 2202001)
Why didn't they put bigger tires or more lift stock? Is 32in like the balance for using it on-road and off-road?

If you lift 2.5" and put 35s on, how much different would it be on-road?

Not even comparable. 35s on any wheel set up require many new mods to do safely and properly. Jeeps are stock at current set ups to maximize MPG/Function/Form.

Casotakar1229 03-31-2012 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ESP (Post 2201946)
Front DS? :whistling:

interested on the answer to this as well. I still don't think 3.5 is necessary because of all the extra mods you have to add. 2.5 with 35" seems plenty reasonable for any jeep...idk, maybe I'm just biased because I love the look so much lol. to each their own....:thumb:

Jervboy 03-31-2012 10:09 AM

I love a good post question!

Jervboy 03-31-2012 10:17 AM

My deal is a have put a fair amount of money into this bad boy already and don't really have the cash to do much more. New side steps, Best top Trektop soft top, Besttop full soft doors, Smittybilt XRC-8 winch mounted upside down hidden inside the bumper, stubby end cap conversion, Quadratec receiver hitch kit...
All I am looking at now at this point is replacing my tires when I need to and I want to put bigger on but am not sure what size.


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