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Triple88a 02-01-2008 06:43 PM

3 Link front setup?
 
Hello,
Any one know where to look for a 3 link front setup? Is it even possible? I've seen 4 link fronts, i've seen 3 link rears but still have not seen 3 link front setup. Thanks.

mr4x4 02-01-2008 07:31 PM

rock krawler tri link
or you can weld up the poly performance long arms the front is a tri link

unless you count the tracbar as a link its a true four link front
You can even put the terraflex triangulated front long arms on

Triple88a 02-01-2008 07:52 PM

well a 3 link that has the 2 lower control arms and one triangular upper control arm removes the track bar doesn it?

mr4x4 02-01-2008 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple88a (Post 188973)
well a 3 link that has the 2 lower control arms and one triangular upper control arm removes the track bar doesn it?

yes some people dont count the tracbar
they are all four links
the teraflex kit removes the tracbar but it is still a four link

you get some good flex with most long arm kits

AzTJ 02-01-2008 10:48 PM

A 3-link front has 2 lower arms and one upper, along with a pan hard bar, or track bar to keep the axle centered.

Triple88a 02-01-2008 11:08 PM

Isnt that the true 3 link setup? As i said i've seen it for rears but not for front.. :(

http://machinedesign.com/Content/Sit...0000046294.jpg

jeeperman 02-02-2008 09:27 AM

The reason you don't see triangulated (not necessarily 3-link) setups in the front, is that the steering would bind and create bumpsteer unless you go with a full hydraulic steering as the draglink will not follow the same arc as the axle with a traditional steering setup. In the rear, you don't have to worry about it as there is no steering (or a full hydro setup).

Triple88a 02-02-2008 11:46 AM

ok that explains my question. Thank you JeeperMan :)

1BLKJP 02-05-2008 03:51 PM

However that Teraflex setup does exist and i've recently seen it on someone's rig here in PHX. I follow the same school of thought with Jeeperman however that you can't get rid of the trac bar on a coil/linked vehicle without taking the steering box off the frame also (meaning going to full hydraulic).

MR.CLIFFORD 02-05-2008 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1BLKJP (Post 190408)
However that Teraflex setup does exist and i've recently seen it on someone's rig here in PHX. I follow the same school of thought with Jeeperman however that you can't get rid of the trac bar on a coil/linked vehicle without taking the steering box off the frame also (meaning going to full hydraulic).


You can, in theory. You just have to make the drag link parallel to the ground. That kills it for most. I almost chose a 3 link with pan hard over my front 4 link just for ease and simplicity. But I hate track bars. :D

Triple88a 02-05-2008 08:57 PM

Does Dookey too have a track bar?

AzTJ 02-05-2008 10:43 PM

Dookey Too has two of them. Just like a stock TJ.

Triple88a 03-13-2008 01:12 AM

What about something like this for the steering? Sort of like "semi" hydraulic steering that still uses the stock steering box? (cost = 2 hydraulic pistons and few lines)

Black (round with square up) = stock steering box
Red = axle
Brown = full tie rod
Purple = fluid
Blue = fluid
Black by sides = "tires"
Gray = hubs
Black outline with green rod in it = hydraulic pistons

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...f/steering.gif

AzTJ 03-13-2008 01:28 AM

That would still be a full hyrdaulic steering as there isn't a connection from the frame. And There is a reason why you haven't seen a set up like that... it will break stuff. That tie-rod will not last.

Triple88a 03-13-2008 01:32 AM

Its no different than the regular steering.

http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...Mount-Diff.jpg

http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...wRamMounts.jpg

http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...tsComplete.jpg

AzTJ 03-13-2008 01:38 AM

Thats a hydraulic assist.

http://www.rockcrawler.com/techreports/psc_hydro/

It still uses a drag link and power steering box in conjunction with a hydraulic ram.

Triple88a 03-13-2008 01:45 AM

Now whats the difference between this setup
http://www.autotrucktoys.com/jeep/Ru...5977C7665.aspx
and the piston added instead of the drag link on that setup ^?

I've had this idea in my head for a bit, thought i might ask around here... see what people think.

AzTJ 03-13-2008 01:48 AM

It has to do with the rest of the suspension and the steering... plus the other guy(hydro assist) has leaf springs instead of coils.

If your really thinking of a 3-link front, keep the panhard/track bar. It will make things simpler.

Triple88a 03-13-2008 01:59 AM

i wanted something like this (not parallel to one another)

maybe even 4 link.. no idea.. i don't have a welder for now so i'm just throwing ideas around

http://machinedesign.com/Content/Sit...0000046294.jpg

btw note the anti sway bar on my sig image right bellow the front differential laying on the ground. :punk:

GrnTJ 03-13-2008 09:39 AM

Im just gonna do a triangulated 4 link up front. But I like that sway bar, haha.

Triple88a 03-13-2008 10:16 AM

well i gues my "hydraulic steering" idea might help others than just me :punk: Any more feedback on it? how to make it work better is welcome.

My rc springs are so hard, i am currently driving with removed rear and discoed front. It leans a bit more but no problems.

4.0l sahara 03-13-2008 12:47 PM

Has any body done any upgrades to the steering like the bigger power steering pumps? Do they help?:rolleyes:

4.0l sahara 03-13-2008 01:18 PM

I've also heard the psc steering boxes are good.:D

Triple88a 03-14-2008 12:13 AM

yes but 1400 bucks seems a bit steep.

AzTJ 03-14-2008 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4.0l sahara (Post 206032)
Has any body done any upgrades to the steering like the bigger power steering pumps? Do they help?:rolleyes:

Do some searching on "Durango Steering Boxes"... like from a Dodge Durango.

4.0l sahara 03-14-2008 02:40 PM

I know about that and all the after market boxes but was wondering about high flow pumps.:D


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