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Tenorino 05-03-2012 06:56 PM

Fat Tires, Wide Stance, No Lift, JK?
 
Noob here. Any suggestions for 2012 Sahara stock 18" wheels or aftermarket wheels and tires for a squat non-lifted look? I like the appearance of filling the wheel wells with wide thick tires. I don't want wheels less than 16" either.

Any lift I do would be 1.5 to 2" max down the road and just a off-road (not too rough) weekend warrior.

Thanks.

OntarioBlair 05-03-2012 08:07 PM

i was told that 275/70/r18, (33") is the biggest and widest you can go on a stock sahara, i'm in the same boat, want the biggest fattest tires without a lift and that's what i was told, no speddo calibration or hub spacers needed.

BobU05 05-03-2012 10:59 PM

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I know you wanted 16" but here is mine with a 15" wheel. Has a nice wide stance.

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kbwwolf 05-03-2012 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenorino (Post 2332338)
Noob here. Any suggestions for 2012 Sahara stock 18" wheels or aftermarket wheels and tires for a squat non-lifted look? I like the appearance of filling the wheel wells with wide thick tires. I don't want wheels less than 16" either.

Any lift I do would be 1.5 to 2" max down the road and just a off-road (not too rough) weekend warrior.

Thanks.

You can't put tires much wider than what you've got on your with the stock wheels, unless you buy wheel spacers.

Personally, I'd ditch the 18" rims anyway. You can buy a set of aftermarket wheels in 16", AND new tires, for less than you'll pay for the 18" tires alone.

If you want a wider stance, best bet is to with a lower backspacing number. Your stock wheels have 6.25" backspacing, which is why the wheels are so tight on the Jeep. Generally, for aftermarket wheels you want 4.5" bs or less. The smaller the #, the farther your wheels will stick out from the Jeep.

If you go with 33" tires, you'll need only a simple leveling kit to ensure that you won't get tire rub on the fenders off-road. TeraFlex and Full Traction both make good ones. They'll give you 2" in front and 1" in rear, and are about as simple and hassle-free as you can get.

Here's a good thread to read on the subject of wheels/tires:

Largest tire on stock JK? Here's your answer!

kjeeper10 05-03-2012 11:08 PM

Edit --- or this ^^ :D

A 33 will fit nicely,

Aftermarket wheel with 4.5 or less backspacing will be what you need and give the look you want :)

NFRs2000NYC 05-03-2012 11:41 PM

Just get "the package." 15" Wheel with 33x12.5 Duratracs. Discount Tire will set you up nicely.

kjeeper10 05-03-2012 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC
Just get "the package." 15" Wheel with 33x12.5 Duratracs. Discount Tire will set you up nicely.

"the package"

:rofl: nice

StealthJK 05-04-2012 11:38 AM

I have 17s w/ 4.5 bs and 33X12.5OR coopers that stick out about 2inches. I have the spacer lift but they will work without it. Whole package under 1500 installed and with warranty.

roxbury29 05-04-2012 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BobU05 (Post 2333236)
I know you wanted 16" but here is mine with a 15" wheel. Has a nice wide stance.

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^ looks Great!!!

I have 17's -33's with a leveling AEV2" kit, no rubbing

1Topp 05-05-2012 03:22 AM

285/75/16 no lift..........
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7103/7...779ff58f2b.jpg

DrDanimalSize 05-05-2012 06:36 AM

Same as the guy above, no lift, slight rub on front plastic air dam at full lock.

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...34581427_n.jpg

kjeeper10 05-05-2012 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DrDanimalSize
Same as the guy above, no lift, slight rub on front plastic air dam at full lock.

You still have the thing on?

kbwwolf 05-05-2012 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC (Post 2333375)
Just get "the package." 15" Wheel with 33x12.5 Duratracs. Discount Tire will set you up nicely.

What's "the package?" Is that like The Combo, but with onion rings instead of fries?

DrDanimalSize 05-06-2012 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 2337003)
You still have the thing on?

Yup! If it helps with gas mileage, I'm keeping it (even if its only 0.2mpg)! And now that I have 1.25" of lift from the 18/59 springs it doesn't rub.

Guadzilla 05-06-2012 01:43 AM

I keep reading posts on here that replacing the stock rims with smaller ones and new tires is cheaper than just buying new tires for the stock rims. Maybe if you're going brand new at Firestone or something, but brand new stock tires are all over Craigslist for $300 to $500. If you're looking to stay stock you can really take advantage with all the people replacing their rims and tires.

Benjy 05-06-2012 02:01 AM

Here's mine, 35's, trimmed fenders, no lift & no rubbing since I flattened the pinch seam, however the Sahara fender trim is tough to pull off and make it look right. I've only seen a few I really like. All this being said, 35s might not be the look you want, but I think you can get them in the 13.5" width, maybe even 14.5.

Anyone else think the wider tires get squirrely on the highway sometimes?

http://wowww.net/2012/KS_Rocks-Frost...4002-benjy.jpg

aelwero 05-06-2012 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Benjy (Post 2339244)
Anyone else think the wider tires get squirrely on the highway sometimes

Absolutely, but the stability off road is fair compensation in my book ;)

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5275/6...071f25af90.jpg

33X12.5 MT/R's on 15X10 procomp steels. no lift, and if you wheel it like you stole it, you WILL grind your fenders up :angel:

kjeeper10 05-06-2012 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Benjy
Here's mine, 35's, trimmed fenders, no lift & no rubbing since I flattened the pinch seam, however the Sahara fender trim is tough to pull off and make it look right. I've only seen a few I really like. All this being said, 35s might not be the look you want, but I think you can get them in the 13.5" width, maybe even 14.5.

Anyone else think the wider tires get squirrely on the highway sometimes?

Only time it gets squirrelly a bit is when it's windy.

I think if you toe is off, the jeep will wander?
I do have adjustable LCA's though. More positive caster :thumb: that helps.

Thracks 05-06-2012 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 2337003)
You still have the thing on?

Why would one take it off? It's an important part of aerodynamics and keeps the Wrangler more stable at speed while saving fuel (two things that the Wrangler cannot afford to lose). Aerodynamic efficiency is one of the most important parts of any automobile. Removing it altogether would be inefficient. Instead, I would just remove it temporarily just for the outing, then replace it with some home fashioned pins, since I'm sure removing it would break off the pins.

kjeeper10 05-06-2012 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Thracks

Why would one take it off? It's an important part of aerodynamics and keeps the Wrangler more stable at speed while saving fuel (two things that the Wrangler cannot afford to lose). Aerodynamic efficiency is one of the most important parts of any automobile. Removing it altogether would be inefficient. Instead, I would just remove it temporarily just for the outing, then replace it with some home fashioned pins, since I'm sure removing it would break off the pins.

Aerodynamics and mpg's hit the fan after lifting and/or bigger tires.
I hardy doubt a piece of plastic helps stability.


Stock= I would keep it.
Lifted/bigger tires = scrap barrel :D

You can remove the plastic push pins safely without damage.

DrDanimalSize 05-06-2012 08:47 AM

I'm going the middle road between you guys: I'll keep it on all the time until I do something silly off-road and tear it off on an obstacle! :D

kjeeper10 05-06-2012 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DrDanimalSize
I'm going the middle road between you guys: I'll keep it on all the time until I do something silly off-road and tear it off on an obstacle! :D

:rofl:

I hear they have a air dam disco in those new fancy smancy 12's

jagerhelix 05-06-2012 09:34 AM

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No lift, 13.5 Iroks on 17" Crager soft 8s. I don't think I have any better pictures on hand but they certainly have that squat look. Stick out just past the stock fenders. (keep in mind this means you will never have a clean jeep lol)

No rubbing around town, but disconnected off road I will probably tear my fenders off sooner or later... Last time out my tread took a couple plastic fasteners off my rears.

Tenorino 05-08-2012 09:39 PM

Thanks everyone for all the info. It's awesome to tap into so much experience and research from others while gathering your own to make a good decision.

Tenorino 05-08-2012 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BobU05
I know you wanted 16" but here is mine with a 15" wheel. Has a nice wide stance.

Thanks. I'm seeing that smaller wheels with larger sidewalls give a fuller and meatier look which is what I'm after.

Tenorino 05-08-2012 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 1Topp (Post 2336810)

That extra sidewall on your 75s and filling in the wheel wells is what I'm looking for.

1Topp 05-09-2012 04:07 AM

:thumb:

real4x4 05-09-2012 06:50 AM

great thread with some good pics. bookmarked for future reference

Maxxx10 06-10-2013 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by aelwero (Post 2339341)
Absolutely, but the stability off road is fair compensation in my book ;)

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5275/6...071f25af90.jpg

33X12.5 MT/R's on 15X10 procomp steels. no lift, and if you wheel it like you stole it, you WILL grind your fenders up :angel:


*Can you tell me which fenders and bumpers you are using? I love how they look. :thumb:

MattK 06-10-2013 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Maxxx10 (Post 3845083)
*Can you tell me which fenders and bumpers you are using? I love how they look. :thumb:

Looks like the stock bumper cut down with caps on it and maybe stock fenders cut down.


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