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chino78415 02-19-2008 08:13 PM

RE Lift installed; Rear trackbar problems
 
Sorry, but I don't have enough time to search threads for this subject.

I installed my 3.5 standard lift with jks front adj. trackbar. The rear trackbar will not line up to the holes.

I tried it with the lower end mounted first and with the upper end mounted first; both were unsuccesful.

PLEASE HELP!!!

Here is the lift: http://www.rubiconexpress.com/Produc...=3229974910348

Here is the front adj. trackbar: http://www.redrock4x4.com/shop/products/1957.html

Everything else is stock, including the tires. (I'm rolling ala Trip style.)

Pics will be posted when I have some sunlight.

richp 02-19-2008 08:22 PM

Your kit should have come with a trackbar relocation bracket that bolts into the old hole and then the trackbar bolts into the bracket. On the rare occasions we use them we weld them in place. A better solution to do right now is order an adjustable trackbar for the rear, this will allow you go up more in the future if you want to and not have to 'a' get a new bracket or 'b' break the weld on the old one and then weld on a new one.
Just in case you don't know when you lift the jeeps the axles shift over. Stick a yard stick against each tire straight up and down then measure the difference on both sides, you will see what I mean.
Oh in case you are wondering, DO NOT DRIVE IT UNTIL you get that trackbar installed.

bpowa 02-19-2008 08:31 PM

without the front track bar you will guarantee the death wobble.. I had it 4 times, due to my front was a bit loose..

to answer your question. you will need ratcheting straps.. you have to measue and use the straps to pull the axel into alignment.. trust me this is the easier way; I just had a hell of a time doing it recently..

I.E. if your tire sticks out to the driver side more, you will need to strap somewhere on the passenger side hub and the driver side frame.. then ratchet into alignment. I measured the knuckles on both passenger and driver side axel to the middle bolt at the end of our gas tank near the rear bumper.

O and the first time I got it in my tire was an inch further to the driver side, until I did this.

another thing is leave the strap on and adjust the track bar to proper lenght.. be sure to torque it right, these bars, nuts, and bolts, are stressed out to the max.

chino78415 02-19-2008 08:32 PM

I have the bracket installed along with everything else that came in the kit. I talked to a rep at Rubicon Express and he suggested (as stated in the instructions) to install the rear trackbar with the Jeep on the ground. Supposedly the weight will help place the trackbar in position.

Any tips on getting that sucker in there? The option of getting an adjustable rear trackbar is expired, since this is my DD and I have until Friday morning at 7:00 to work on it.

Also, GOOD alignment shops are very rare around these parts. :(

chino78415 02-19-2008 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpowa (Post 196027)
without the front track bar you will guarantee the death wobble.. I had it 4 times, due to my front was a bit loose..

to answer your question. you will need ratching straps.. you have to measue and use the straps to pull the axel into alignment.. trust me this is the eiser way I juat had a hell of a time doing it recently..

I.E. if your tire sticks out to the driver side more you will need to strap somewhere on the passenger side hub and the driver side frame.. then ratchet into alignment. I measured the knuckles on both passenger and driver side axel to the middle bolt at the end of our gas tank near the rear bumper.

The front is fine. I had no problem centering the axle. Did you use an adj. rear trackbar as well? If not, when you used the ratcheting strap, did you disconnect the sways, shocks and control arms?

bpowa 02-19-2008 08:35 PM

post pis of the porfile for me when your done well ya.. I had the same kit and the front is a bit lower.

bpowa 02-19-2008 08:43 PM

no I did not disconect the sways and shocks.. I parked the jeep straight. put the axel on stands and took the rear tires off.. when you ratchet the tub/body will adjust to the axel. this way you have more space to get tighten the bolts..

I did this with the stock track bar with the bracket. then I did it again with an adjustable bar and a bracket. If you dont have a rear adjustable just ratchet it so it will fall into place without measuring. The bracket will align the axel in almost to center.

bpowa 02-19-2008 08:44 PM

let us know if you have vibes.. I got vibes and just ordered an sye and shaft.

chino78415 02-19-2008 09:10 PM

The front is about 2 inches lower.

Here's before...

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...5/100_4896.jpg

Here's after...

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...5/100_5323.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...5/100_5324.jpg

AzTJ 02-19-2008 09:59 PM

Did you get the t-bar installed yet?

If you can get the rear jacked up off the ground from the bumper and let the axle dangle(with tires off), you can swing it side to side a bit which should help line up the t-bar when installing it. Be sure you are not putting it in upside down. :D

4Jeepn 02-19-2008 10:49 PM

try jacking up the rear axle on the side the axle bracket is on, this may move the bar closer to the frame bracket, enough to get it in position. I think that is what I did for mine.. its been a while...

bpowa 02-19-2008 10:55 PM

did you get vibes?

chino78415 02-19-2008 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpowa (Post 196128)
did you get vibes?

Not done yet. I lit some candles and sacrificed a chicken...so hopefully I won't get any.

I'll let you know tomorrow.

03rubi 02-20-2008 12:50 PM

Mine did the same thing. I have had the axle out several times since and it is always a problem. You can use a ratchet stap and pull the axle over a little so the holes line up, or you can try jacking one side of the axle up. When I originally isntall the lift, I just jacked the axle up. Hope that helps!

chino78415 02-20-2008 02:52 PM

Redneck Engineering 101 helped me a lot with this. I finally got the sucker in and the wheels aligned. Of course, I have vibrations...and they aren't good. At take off and slow speeds I feel it, at high speeds, they aren't there.

On to the next project...

bpowa 02-20-2008 04:52 PM

is it an auto? wierd how many peeps get no vibes.. my sye is on the way.. I am in between jobs right now and had to charge that motha. :(

nicolas-eric 02-20-2008 04:56 PM

did you read the text beside the different adj. rear track bars at the JKS site?

all JKS rear track bars for the TJ require a SYE and CV driveshaft because otherwise the stock driveshaft will be in the way.

:wavey:

AzTJ 02-20-2008 05:40 PM

Nico - the JKS bars need an sye because the rear axle should be rotated up to use them as well as the sye.

Triple88a 02-20-2008 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicolas-eric (Post 196376)
all JKS rear track bars for the TJ require a SYE and CV driveshaft because otherwise the stock driveshaft will be in the way.
:wavey:

How does that happen? The drive shaft is pretty far away from the track bar isnt it and cant you spin the JJ to align the holes?

Cant find a pic but i found this one...

isnt that a cute little axle? :rofl:
http://images.fourwheeler.com/techar...nsion_view.jpg


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