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shadowrcker 05-16-2012 03:17 AM

What Lifts to Get and What lifts To Avoid
 
Hey guys, ive been looking around a lot on getting a lift for my TJ. However the one thing i keep running into is there seem to be a lot of mixed receptions on them.
Weak Springs, Stiff springs, Crappy components, you get my drift.

I don't want to spend money on a lift ill regret getting so I want to know if anybody knows what brands on lifts to stay away from and what ones are recommended.

Im not sure if i want to do a 2 inch budget lift or just go all out and go for 4 inches.

I appreciate any help.

uniballer 05-16-2012 03:27 AM

I'm very interested in this discussion too. Trying to search/sift through the volumes of information in this community is pretty daunting.

Noish 05-16-2012 04:18 AM

I recommend the Zone 3" lift. Great ride on the street. I have their 4.25"combo. 3"suspension, 1.25"body lift and 1" motor mount lift.

Depends on your budget though. I went cheap because I'll hardly ever go wheeling. my searches all ended with stay away from rancho and pro comp. No personal experience with either on coil spring lifts though

Noish 05-16-2012 04:20 AM

This is assuming you're looking to spend under $1k. If money doesn't matter it changes everything

EMSRubi 05-16-2012 04:32 AM

Stay the hell away from black diamond lifts. Usually any other suspension lift is up for debate, pros and cons to every lift kit so you have to pick and choose your battles. I went with rough country 3.25" it came with crappy shocks so I'm replacing them with bilsteins.

shadowrcker 05-16-2012 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Noish (Post 2373294)
This is assuming you're looking to spend under $1k. If money doesn't matter it changes everything

Yeah i don't mind spending up to 1k on a lift. Im not opposed to spending a little bit more for quality if need be but for the amount of offloading i plan on doing i shouldn't need anything much above 1k. At least i don't think i will.

gixxerphil 05-16-2012 05:04 AM

What size tire do you want to run? Old Man Emu and Currie/Savvy seem to get good reviews also

rda616 05-16-2012 05:42 AM

It's an age old question here. Some say they went cheap because they don't offroad much, but the fact of the matter is a good lift will perform just as good on the road as it will off. The best kit out there would be the savvy/currie 3, or 4 inch kit. A currie 4 incn would be my second choice. And OME with Rokmen control arms and currie track bars would be third choice.

Knowledge97 05-16-2012 08:53 AM

Depends on if you just want a lift or you want a suspension system. If you just want a lift get the 2in BB and some new shocks and be done with it. If you want a quality suspension system you will need to spend more than a grand. This is the one I am probably going to get next month (Old Man Emu Ultimate TJ/LJ Wrangler Kit | dpgoffroad.com), and this doesn't even come with control arms.

My advise is to spend some time on here reading about all that goes into a complete suspension system. Then decide how far you want to go with it. I have been researching for months figuring out what I want to do.

bobsled84088 05-16-2012 10:52 AM

With your TJ being a 98 I would think that a fresh coil spring lift will tighten up your jeeps ride.

What kind of wheeling will you be doing ?
What size tires are you wanting to run ?

I am a BDS guy , 2" with a 1" body lift running 33" BFG All terrains.
Great for my type of wheeling ... some rocks ,snow, sand ,dirt roads, and lots of pavement.
Keep doing your homework .

homebrwd 05-16-2012 11:19 AM

I like BDS and Full Tractions stuff. Had FT on my JK and it was great both on an off road along with it being a no maintenance lift (no greasing).

shadowrcker 05-16-2012 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bobsled84088 (Post 2374098)
With your TJ being a 98 I would think that a fresh coil spring lift will tighten up your jeeps ride.

What kind of wheeling will you be doing ?
What size tires are you wanting to run ?

I am a BDS guy , 2" with a 1" body lift running 33" BFG All terrains.
Great for my type of wheeling ... some rocks ,snow, sand ,dirt roads, and lots of pavement.
Keep doing your homework .


I'm debating for tire size. I'm torn between 31's or 33's.
As for the type of wheeling rocks, mud, snow, pavement.

I'm not really interested as to figuring out what type of lift to get, rather the quality of the manufacturers of the lifts that are out there.
Ive been looking and reading a lot about different lifts and one thing seems to be common. Totally different reviews for similar lifts. Some bashing the manufactures for a sub par product and another review praising it.

I didn't know if my other fellow jeepers out there had a general consensus of some manufacturers to stay away from due to low quality products.

shadowrcker 05-16-2012 02:12 PM

Also i appreciate the advice so far

MillerFam 05-16-2012 04:47 PM

I've got the OME HD lift and I love it. It handles great on and offroad. I've got an 04' Rubicon on 33" MTR's.

Patrick H 05-16-2012 04:57 PM

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I'm torn between 31's or 33's.
Then 32's might be a good option, if you can find a tire you like. They aren't as common as 31's or 33 (12.50), but there are a few options.

Noish 05-17-2012 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by shadowrcker

I'm not really interested as to figuring out what type of lift to get, rather the quality of the manufacturers of the lifts that are out there.
Ive been looking and reading a lot about different lifts and one thing seems to be common. Totally different reviews for similar lifts. Some bashing the manufactures for a sub par product and another review praising it.

I didn't know if my other fellow jeepers out there had a general consensus of some manufacturers to stay away from due to low quality products.

Its all in perspective to what you want it for as to whether its junk IMO. If I had $2k to spend I could have bought better quality I'm sure. I bought based on the number of reviews saying they were surprised on the high quality parts and road comfort for a "budget" kit. I'm sure I'd also be very happy with Currie/savvy though also, but why if I won't be anywhere to use it.

rda616 05-17-2012 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Noish

Its all in perspective to what you want it for as to whether its junk IMO. If I had $2k to spend I could have bought better quality I'm sure. I bought based on the number of reviews saying they were surprised on the high quality parts and road comfort for a "budget" kit. I'm sure I'd also be very happy with Currie/savvy though also, but why if I won't be anywhere to use it.

Because it will last you twice as long. What most won't say is how 4 years later they needed to replace everything that came with that cheap lift.

TJallday97 05-17-2012 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by shadowrcker
Also i appreciate the advice so far

If i was you i would get either a sky jacker or a rough country lift i have a rough country lift with the n9000 shocks.....it rides nice its a smooth ride considering its up 4in ummmm sky jacker is nice man i would check them out too

The Korean 05-17-2012 08:22 AM

The high end side of lifts and that have gotten great reviews are

Rock Krawler 3.5" lift
Currie 4" lift

I'm going with one of those two... just need a few more ducketts in the Jeep funds account. Oh and I too thought about doing the budget boost to get me by for now, but figured I'll just wait and save the money/time as well as learn to wheel without a lift first.

EDIT: Oh and OME is a really nice kit as well.

jrussblues 05-17-2012 08:53 AM

Currie, Clayton and a very few other manufacturers get nothing but great reviews. Most lifts that you will find at big retailers like quadratec will have received mixed reviews.
My rubicon express 3.5 superflex has been great so far, but it has the newer redesigned rubber bushings. The older ones were known to be failure prone.
Skyjacker is known to have sagging springs and poor shocks.
Rough country is not known for durability and poor ride quality.
Zone seems to get consistently good reviews and at a great price.
Bds isn't run by many people but they have a great warranty, I had a front track bar that i needed help with and their customer service was excellent.
The only person I know who runs full traction swears by it and they make a fully bolt on long arm.
Teraflex is on par with rubicon express and full traction but more expensive than currie.
Ome is highly praised, I had a set of springs and they were great but a little soft for my liking.
I think that covers most of what I've learned along the way.
Keep in mind that most lifts are not complete and will require additional parts like shocks, track bars, bump stop extensions etc. to be run properly.
Hope this helps.

bobsled84088 05-17-2012 10:58 AM

Big difference between 31s and 33s.

31" tires 2" lift and you are good to go

33" tires 3" min lift -tire carrier -Possibly SYE -Regear - Flares-etc

shadowrcker 05-17-2012 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrussblues (Post 2377381)
Currie, Clayton and a very few other manufacturers get nothing but great reviews. Most lifts that you will find at big retailers like quadratec will have received mixed reviews.
My rubicon express 3.5 superflex has been great so far, but it has the newer redesigned rubber bushings. The older ones were known to be failure prone.
Skyjacker is known to have sagging springs and poor shocks.
Rough country is not known for durability and poor ride quality.
Zone seems to get consistently good reviews and at a great price.
Bds isn't run by many people but they have a great warranty, I had a front track bar that i needed help with and their customer service was excellent.
The only person I know who runs full traction swears by it and they make a fully bolt on long arm.
Teraflex is on par with rubicon express and full traction but more expensive than currie.
Ome is highly praised, I had a set of springs and they were great but a little soft for my liking.
I think that covers most of what I've learned along the way.
Keep in mind that most lifts are not complete and will require additional parts like shocks, track bars, bump stop extensions etc. to be run properly.
Hope this helps.

This right here more than helps.

I know i have to do some thinking on what size lift to get and what size tires, based on the kinda roading i wanna do, but this right here will help me narrow down what brands to look into when i decide on the kind of setup i want.

skjeeper 08-19-2012 11:42 PM

My Currie lift
 
Hey all, so this topic has been beat to death on various forums, but at the same time, it's understandable why people are asking since a lift kit isn't cheap, and if either the parts or the install is poor, then you are out time and money, and of course your jeep while all of it gets straightened out.
Having said that, I went with the Currie 4-inch short arm lift. I love it! It handles and drives better than my 2-Door JK Rubicon and soaks up bumps without shaking me around. The springs are solid, not too stiff, and not too soft. The only thing I would have done in hindsight would be to purchase the dual adjustable control arms, but that's not a big deal.
I installed the whole thing myself and I had never installed a lift kit or worked on a Jeep prior. It was a little intimidating at first, but once you see the parts and follow the directions, it worked out just fine. Installing it myself did save some money though. All of the parts are bolt on, no welding, and no fabrication. You do have to drill out some holes in your axle, but again no fabrication. So, if you have a competent shop install it, or have it done by a shop that knows how to read/follow instructions, it should not be a big deal. All of the JJ are serviceable, so that cost will be less than replacing junk in one year.
I did look at Clayton and Savvy, but in the end I chose Currie.

My 2 cents...

Ribbitman 10-13-2012 09:28 PM

Rock Krawler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowrcker (Post 2373235)
Hey guys, ive been looking around a lot on getting a lift for my TJ. However the one thing i keep running into is there seem to be a lot of mixed receptions on them.
Weak Springs, Stiff springs, Crappy components, you get my drift.

I don't want to spend money on a lift ill regret getting so I want to know if anybody knows what brands on lifts to stay away from and what ones are recommended.

Im not sure if i want to do a 2 inch budget lift or just go all out and go for 4 inches.

I appreciate any help.

I've had a Rock Krawler 4" long arm and 33s on my 05 LJ Rubi for 5 years now and it's been great. Off road performance is stellar. It was my daily driver for 4 years and handled a little better than stock on road. Almost bolt-on with a little welding on the rear axle, so a buddy handled that in about an hour. Took a crew of us 2 days in my garage, plus me reconnecting brake lines and such. Had to get a longer rear driveshaft and shocks, plus new cat-back exhaust to clear the control arms. After 3 years of 1k+ highway miles and 1-2 wheeling trips per month, a little death wobble reminded me the adjustable control arms loosened up and needed tightened. Adjustable arms are nice; just replace the shocks and springs to go up to 6 or even 8" if you want. If you go any bigger than 35s, you're likely to snap even the Rubi's Dana 44s, so consider that if you go with 37s or better. The hardware does add a couple hundred pounds, but you get a lower center of gravity to make up for the reduced mpg. Really happy with it overall.

njp2295 10-13-2012 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Knowledge97 (Post 2373726)
Depends on if you just want a lift or you want a suspension system. If you just want a lift get the 2in BB and some new shocks and be done with it. If you want a quality suspension system you will need to spend more than a grand. This is the one I am probably going to get next month (Old Man Emu Ultimate TJ/LJ Wrangler Kit | dpgoffroad.com), and this doesn't even come with control arms.

My advise is to spend some time on here reading about all that goes into a complete suspension system. Then decide how far you want to go with it. I have been researching for months figuring out what I want to do.

I just got mine shipped to me should be installing within week Ill post my opinion when I get it installed

DevilDogDoc 10-13-2012 10:12 PM

Currie 4 inch is what I went to from a Tera 3 inch, double adjustable uppers and lowers with Savvy rear uppers. Still need the parts to finish my front uppers I have the Savvy arms but need the JJ's to finish them. Night and day difference from the Tera, not that the Tera was bad but the JJ's changed the ride completely nice tight ride.

flyboy367 10-14-2012 10:44 AM

I went with the rough country n2o 4"kit and the upgrade tierod kit. I have no complaints. The ride is smooth and even. Finished it off with some 33" duratracks. The instruction's were strait forward and i had a question about some stuff left from the prev owner and they stayed on the phone while i was working on it


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