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JCS05Rubi 02-28-2008 05:47 PM

Steering wheel shake/pulse during sharp turns
 
Either this just started, or I just noticed it. When turning onto a perpendicular road, or making a U turn etc, I get a pulse or shake back and forth, the wheel is even moving a little bit. Took a quick look underneith, didn't see anything bent or leaking, all all fitting bags are lubed and full. Got a buddy coming over to shake the steering in my driveway soon. I just got a call from my aunt, and I need to make a ~700 mile round trip drive sat/sun and this JUST started the other day. Any suggestions on what to look for, or could it just be my tires? The MT/Rs on the front are at 9/32s, rears are 13. Maybe they are just going wacky again like the other 2 I replaced?

rthdtj 02-28-2008 05:53 PM

It really sounds like tires to me, try rotating them & see if the problem goes away, if it does you have your answer. Good luck.

NY94YJ 02-28-2008 06:05 PM

Could be loose/bad serp belt causing pulse in the power steering.

JCS05Rubi 02-28-2008 06:32 PM

Belts good, no signs of cracking or anything. I am thinking tires too. If I don't see anything loose underneith when he shakes the wheel, I am not going to worry about it. I would rotate them, but the ones with the most tread are on the bad. I was trying to hold out rotating until there is no snow in the future(rotated about 2500 miles ago anyway). I am going to re-balance them tomorrow anyway, just for comfort sake. Can't seem to keep these MT/Rs balanced for more than 2,000 miles.

jeeperman 02-29-2008 06:59 AM

Could be your tires, but here is a really dumb question for you: Are you positive that it isn't stuck in 4wd? That sounds like the handling that you would get with 4wd on dry pavement. I would check that tonight as well. Otherwise, I got nothin'. Good luck.

erickpl 02-29-2008 07:54 AM

Do you have an autolocker in front? Even in 2WD, on really sharp, lowspeed turns, I get a hopping similar to what you describe.

JCS05Rubi 03-02-2008 07:43 PM

Definitely not in 4wd, hit some ice on my road trip and it was definitely 2wd when I was stuck, until I engaged 4wd :D

No, just the factory air lockers, not engaged, definitely in 2wd.

Rotated the tires, and balanced them, got the newer ones up front now. Almost feels worse! It feels like, i dunno, like the front tires lug nuts are REALLY loose, and the tires are wobbling through turns :confused:

I dont know, but I have to make this trip again in a few more days for my grandma's funneral, so I hope we can figure it out soon!!

I saw a VERY SMALL, like maybe 1/32 play in the joint from tie rod end to pitman arm, but i dont think its enough to cause this issue.

Triple88a 03-03-2008 01:54 AM

maybe bent rim? Did you say it vibrates when going straight too?

JCS05Rubi 03-03-2008 05:35 AM

Nope, no more vibration going straight than normal. I thought bent rim myself, but I haven't done anything to bend it, it does nothing odd going straight, and it still happened when I rotated the tires.

when driving in a circle at like 15mph, it does feel like a pretty bent steel wheel though.

bpowa 03-03-2008 07:59 AM

maybe the tire is out of round. thread seperation on the outter side. most shops wont catch this, because it will still balance. try jacking the tires and spinning your wheels, nd see if it wobbles.

Rawkon 03-03-2008 09:40 AM

sounds like your toe in adjustment is off. do an alingment or go get one done.

kizer 03-03-2008 11:18 AM

Check your track bar and make sure its torqued down to 65lbs on the frame. Its been known to come loose and move around in the mount and do some bizarre things. As well I've seen trackbars wear out the inside of their bushings and even thou they are tight they where wobbing around on the inside.

64panhead 03-03-2008 11:23 AM

it sounds like a bad u-joint my dodge truck had bad u-joints and would turn the wheel back and forth in my hands when turning

kizer 03-03-2008 11:28 AM

Very well could be. Is there any squeaking at all when you turn?

Jonny15 03-03-2008 12:26 PM

yeah check out those u joints, my zj did the same thing when it had bad u joints in the front axle.

JCS05Rubi 03-03-2008 04:33 PM

No funny noises when turning, even had the doors off on the way home today. A rubicon only forum is suggesting the axle joing (needle bearings siezing) or a bad ball joint/unit bearing.

So, we know its not the tires, since rotating them didn't help.

the trackbar didn't show any movement indicating its loose, and I don't have a torque wrench. either way, the jeep is only at 36,500 miles, so it should be ok.. technically..

looks like we have U-Joints, ball joint/unit bearing, and alignment. I checked the alignment myself, and had a shop check it, about 3,000 miles ago, so it SHOULD be ok. Ill check it sometime this week to make sure. Oh well. Everytime i fix the darn thing, something else decides to give out, and I don't even beat on it..:( Guess its not going to be taking me back to WV for the funeral in a few days..

Triple88a 03-03-2008 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rawkon (Post 201412)
sounds like your toe in adjustment is off. do an alingment or go get one done.

I dont think so.. i had 1" toe in and never had any vibrations at all.

So i gues the tire rotation eliminates the tires then?

NY94YJ 03-03-2008 05:11 PM

Power Steering Fluid?

I lean towards PS because I had the exact symptoms as you describe in my YJ....I know it's a FAR Cry from a Rubi....But, my serp belt otherwise seemed Fine, but when I swapped it for a "Best" out of a "Good-Better-Best" line up of belts my issue went away.

I'm interested in finding out what your issue is. Good Luck.

fishingman1958 07-18-2014 07:16 AM

I have an issue like this as well was told to get >wheel bearing / hub assembly
I turn to right or left on a corner and feel shake in steering wheel a bit when taking off then smooth's out> ?ordering today not bad less then $80.00 for the pair & that's with shipping/ who would of thought?


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