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WellsR 05-22-2012 09:15 PM

Yes, another bedliner thread
 
Next week after I get my new cage and seats Im going to Rustoleum Spray on bedline my tub. Dont bother trying to talk me into get the more expensive liner like herc or monsta and I like the way Rustoleums liner looks. Im on a high school budget and I get 10% off alot of things at Walmart, one of them being any paint in rattle can.

I will be spraying it on when I have my seats and cage out(will be spraying cage also) and it will be able to cure for about 30+ hours.

But I have 2 questions.

How many cans will I need for the tub and cage? I tried searching but couldnt find anything about the amount, just about what people think about it.

The second question is how should I prep and should I use normal primer?

When I was taught to paint I was told to just rough up the current paint abit, prime it let it dry then repeat that step once more, then paint the rest let it dry then repat that for however many coats I want(which worked well for my rims, bumber, etc). For the this liner should I rough it down to bare metal or will my normal paint tactic be fine?

Edit - Oh and I forgot Im going to have new roll bar pads to dye. The duplicolor fabric dye seems good, how many cans of that will I need for sport pads?

pengintamer 05-22-2012 11:28 PM

The rust oleum stuff is awesome. I did my flares and armor in that stuff. Doesn't need muck prep, I just made sure there was no dirt. Don't bother with primer, that stuff bonds to anything, including light rust. I'd go to home depot or lowes and pic up a couple cases. It stretches really far. I'm kicking around doing my tub with it as well, make sure to post pics when you're done!

banks316 05-22-2012 11:36 PM

I hate that stuff It chips easy, doesn't seem to stick very well. I tried three different methods. 1 scuff up then primer, scuff no primer, and raw metal same result. I will be removing it in favor of Monstaliner

Bluegrass 05-23-2012 01:10 AM

you get what you pay for... I say save up and use a good liner rather than go cheap and regret it in the long run.

Shimtampa 05-23-2012 05:06 AM

Monstaliner is the way to go!

MellowYellow89YJ 05-23-2012 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WellsR

Edit - Oh and I forgot Im going to have new roll bar pads to dye. The duplicolor fabric dye seems good, how many cans of that will I need for sport pads?

why not get the right color pads to start with? I have not had good luck with the duplicolor dye in the past, it can flake off. Rit dye is the better choice, and you can get it at Wal-Mart too. You will need to wash them really well before dying.... Even if new. This will keep you from having uneven color.

And with the liner.... You will regret going cheap on this. Lots have learned that lesson for you, you may wanna save up a bit for better quality. You would be better off with Herculiner than rustoleum, but Raptor or Monsta are the way to go.

WellsR 05-23-2012 01:30 PM

Like I said, Im going with the Rustoleum liner, thats it. I understand all the other stuff is better, and if I kick myself in the ass for it then I will regret not listening.

And Im not going to have the right color pads because Im getting a sport bar and its coming with free pads. And there dont macth. Ill wash them well and will take a look at the rite dye

rebelBullDawg325 05-23-2012 02:06 PM

Scuff it as good as you can, like 60 grit or rougher. blow out all the dust. Then rinse with water and dry. Then wipe down with alcohol or something to remove any oily residue. Then paint. Do the roll bar off of the jeep. Any bolt holes put the bolt part way in heat up and put wax on it (will will keep liner out of threads).

This will ensure the best adhesion and application but still may not work long term. Your floorboards get more wear and tear than anything else.

WellsR 05-23-2012 08:10 PM

Yea today I was fighting with the roll bar bolts. Got all except 2 ou. and those I broke the head off of. Replaced with nice grade 8 hexs and washers and some never seeze. But a 42 inch pipe wrench worked awsome for getting them out, if anybody was wondering.

But I still have to get the other cage before I do any spraying. The new cage will be done while its off. That was the plan.

60 grit well be kept in mind. And I when Im done I will probably keep a touch up can with me.

rebelBullDawg325 05-24-2012 01:05 AM

i broke several bolts taking my cage and seatbelts out. i use anti-seeze when i put everything back together. makes a world of difference

hawgfan0705 05-24-2012 05:30 AM

Not trying to change your mind or anything but by the time you buy enough rattle cans to do your tub and roll cage, you could buy the 1 gallon kit from monstaliner. I used 4 cans on my front and back bumpers and that was 2 coats. I can't imagine how many it will take, I would guess around 20, if you are putting 2 coats on. So at 7 or 8 bucks a can, you might even save money going with monstaliner. I might be stretching with 20 cans but I like putting this stuff on thick.

Nas.a7x 05-24-2012 06:43 AM

I just did my inner doors with dupli-color bedliner in rattle cans it took 2 cans just 2 do them.. I would also recomend monsterliner.(I painted the cause they didn't match the rest of the interior)
I did the pull handles also
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What they looked like b4
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WellsR 05-24-2012 01:20 PM

Hawg you do have a point. What do the roll on kits cost? And I would be doing 2 layers

raycer 05-24-2012 02:09 PM

I sprayed my interior tub with the rustoleum bedliner and am happy with the results. I do plan on going over it again this summer with some more and perhaps using a roll on one instead. It held up fine over the winter with only a few scratches, but I also didn't lay it on very thick. I used about 6-8 cans doing the front floor, I left my wheel wells body color for the winter.

Rockintheislander 05-24-2012 03:53 PM

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...r/ddcaf12e.jpg

Before and after my herculiner roll on kit. 89.99 at O'rlieys.


http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...r/a6fbe238.jpg

Took 2 coats and probably a half hour per coat. Rolled on thick and has held up really well. I'd recommend it for sure.

Blue_94_YJ 05-24-2012 04:58 PM

Rock, did you sand or do any prep besides pull the seats?

Norcal_Chris 05-24-2012 05:23 PM

I did rusto spray , duplicolor spray and both flaked bad pretty quick. That was with good prep too.

I have also done herc roll on. Didnt like that either. It is like sandpaper on your knees, and dirt and crap gets stuck in it and makes it look bad.

Now i only reccomend al's or monsta. Something that is catalyzed and has a less aggressive rubber crumb texture rather than Herculiner wich seems like black paint with sand in it.

Rockintheislander 05-24-2012 09:41 PM

A scuff pad comes with the kit. I cleaned everything really well, scuffed what paint was left, blew it out and cleaned everything with acetone. The herculiner sticks like crazy. Make sure you either blow the tub out or let it dry really well because if there's any moisture left, the bedliner will lock the moisture in just as well as it locks it out.

hawgfan0705 05-24-2012 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WellsR (Post 2400978)
Hawg you do have a point. What do the roll on kits cost? And I would be doing 2 layers

If I'm not mistaken the black roll on kit is $134.00 and you can get a code for free shipping plus a quart of chasis saver. Thay also sell it in quart sizes but I think they just started doing that. If you want a different color the tintalbe gallon kit is $134.00 plus you have to buy an 8oz can of the color, prices vary on the color. This is just what I would do, I have done the inside and outside of my Jeep with monstaliner and I love it. Check out there website if you need to know anything else, it has alot of good info there.

WellsR 05-24-2012 10:16 PM

Ok you guys got me thinking. Ill see what it comes down to when the time comes.

At the moment Im still thinking the rustoleum spray, because some still say its worth it

pupa1 05-26-2012 10:32 PM

HAY THINK CAN USE ON MY WIFE BIG PAIN THE ASS SHE IS :flowers:

lee indy 05-26-2012 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WellsR (Post 2395147)
Next week after I get my new cage and seats Im going to Rustoleum Spray on bedline my tub. Dont bother trying to talk me into get the more expensive liner like herc or monsta and I like the way Rustoleums liner looks. Im on a high school budget and I get 10% off alot of things at Walmart, one of them being any paint in rattle can.

I will be spraying it on when I have my seats and cage out(will be spraying cage also) and it will be able to cure for about 30+ hours.

But I have 2 questions.

How many cans will I need for the tub and cage? I tried searching but couldnt find anything about the amount, just about what people think about it.

The second question is how should I prep and should I use normal primer?

When I was taught to paint I was told to just rough up the current paint abit, prime it let it dry then repeat that step once more, then paint the rest let it dry then repat that for however many coats I want(which worked well for my rims, bumber, etc). For the this liner should I rough it down to bare metal or will my normal paint tactic be fine?

Edit - Oh and I forgot Im going to have new roll bar pads to dye. The duplicolor fabric dye seems good, how many cans of that will I need for sport pads?

dont waste your time with rattle cans. thats the cheap way and i dont mean price. get the raptorliner with the spray kit. 120 bucks delivered from tp tools

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shimtampa (Post 2395887)
Monstaliner is the way to go!

roll ons suck no offense but we have two guys that did that in my local club 2 years ago and one guy who did the spray job 3 years ago. the monstaliner is pealing. rapotliner still looks new.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WellsR (Post 2402558)
Ok you guys got me thinking. Ill see what it comes down to when the time comes.

At the moment Im still thinking the rustoleum spray, because some still say its worth it

i sold my hard top to a kid this weekend that did the spraycan to his inside. it looked like shit and he said it looked like shit. he is gonna order the raptorliner after seeing mine done.


here are the in process and finished product of mine. this stuff rocks. 120 bucks is awesome

lee indy 05-26-2012 10:45 PM

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...5-26202725.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...5-26202741.jpg

lee indy 05-26-2012 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WellsR (Post 2395147)
Next week after I get my new cage and seats Im going to Rustoleum Spray on bedline my tub. Dont bother trying to talk me into get the more expensive liner like herc or monsta and I like the way Rustoleums liner looks. Im on a high school budget and I get 10% off alot of things at Walmart, one of them being any paint in rattle can.

I will be spraying it on when I have my seats and cage out(will be spraying cage also) and it will be able to cure for about 30+ hours.

But I have 2 questions.

How many cans will I need for the tub and cage? I tried searching but couldnt find anything about the amount, just about what people think about it.

The second question is how should I prep and should I use normal primer?

When I was taught to paint I was told to just rough up the current paint abit, prime it let it dry then repeat that step once more, then paint the rest let it dry then repat that for however many coats I want(which worked well for my rims, bumber, etc). For the this liner should I rough it down to bare metal or will my normal paint tactic be fine?

Edit - Oh and I forgot Im going to have new roll bar pads to dye. The duplicolor fabric dye seems good, how many cans of that will I need for sport pads?

dont waste your time with rattle cans. thats the cheap way and i dont mean price. get the raptorliner with the spray kit. 120 bucks delivered from tp tools

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shimtampa (Post 2395887)
Monstaliner is the way to go!

roll ons suck no offense but we have two guys that did that in my local club 2 years ago and one guy who did the spray job 3 years ago. the monstaliner is pealing. rapotliner still looks new.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WellsR (Post 2402558)
Ok you guys got me thinking. Ill see what it comes down to when the time comes.

At the moment Im still thinking the rustoleum spray, because some still say its worth it

i sold my hard top to a kid this weekend that did the spraycan to his inside. it looked like shit and he said it looked like shit. he is gonna order the raptorliner after seeing mine done.


here are the in process and finished product of mine. this stuff rocks. 120 bucks is awesome

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...25103632-1.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...25103642-1.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...25122237-1.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...25122248-1.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...25155857-1.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...25155904-1.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...25155911-1.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...25155918-1.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...25183014-1.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...25183022-1.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...25183035-1.jpg

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...5-26202652.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...5-26202706.jpg

WellsR 05-26-2012 10:51 PM

Thats looks beautiful

You have won me over. But now thats to screech1 (http://www.wranglerforum.com/f8/spar...ck-162742.html) Im 98% sure Im gonna repaint mine. Then Ill worry about the liner, but as I said you won me over.

lee indy 05-26-2012 10:55 PM

you can get color match spray in a can online

WellsR 05-26-2012 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lee indy (Post 2407904)
you can get color match spray in a can online

I want black in the interior

lee indy 05-26-2012 11:11 PM

i meant for your tail gate. if you want interior color then get the tintable kit from raptorliner. ive seen it a few times just need to get urethane paint to add to it. i went black because of the dark green color and the rest of my black interior. i kinda wish i had a sahara or something with lighter interior. black and south georgia heat is gonna be bad but no worse than the dark green was. i think it would look kick ass in a sand color.

WellsR 05-26-2012 11:19 PM

Ahh yea I get what your saying. This is still gonna be a few weeks away though. Maybe Ill pm you if I need anything

lee indy 05-26-2012 11:23 PM

4dr Linex prep - JKowners.com : Jeep Wrangler JK Forum
Raptor Liner: how to - JKowners.com : Jeep Wrangler JK Forum
Spray in Liner - UPOL Raptor Tintable: Deep Water Blue - Page 13
How to remove your transfer case / 4wd knob


those threads helped me. one kit is more than enough.

lots of good tips from my local crew in this thread

who said they wanted to do the Raptor kit?


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