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foxinthemudd 03-05-2008 07:33 PM

Hard Top Questions!!!
 
Ok so today I picked up my "new" hard top from a friend who gave it to me for free! I'm excited to have it, however I have a problem... the hard top was hit by a tree branch last year and the corner is damaged along with the damage there is the hole where the wiperblade and water connector go through into the tub... here are some pictures of the top on my rig and some of the hole...

my question is, is there anything I can do to fix the hole myself? fiberglass or something... even if I don't keep the top I was thinking about putting it up for sale for $500 (is that a good price?). Its a great top has tinted windows and that is the only damage on it. PLEASE HELP! :wavey::wavey:

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Smeghead 03-05-2008 08:38 PM

Pics dont work but I would think there would be something for fixing boats that would do it.

foxinthemudd 03-05-2008 08:52 PM

ok re loaded the pictures with file attachment instead of photo bucket (I can't figure out how to use that thing.)

so the pictures of the damage are pretty obvious take a look...

(I really like how this thing looks on my rig) :D

JCS05Rubi 03-05-2008 09:09 PM

Take it to either a marine repair shop, or an import specialized shop. The marine is your best best, but an import may work too if they do a lot with body kits and custom interior etc.

you need someone REAL good with fiberglass, and re-paint the top.

foxinthemudd 03-05-2008 09:13 PM

I can most likely do the fiberglassing myself but from what my friend told me is that the shop she took it to said that fiberglass won't adhear to it. so is this fiberglass or is it made of something else???

chezuki 03-06-2008 01:45 PM

I used "Bondo Glass" to fix mine and it worked wonders. Use it just like bondo, but it has fiberglass strands in it. Gloop it on with a rubber scraper to the rough shape, and then sand it flush after it dries.

chezuki 03-06-2008 01:54 PM

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Doc S. 03-06-2008 04:29 PM

Looks good Chez. What type of paint did you use? I've got to refinish mine same color. I'll Probably go with an epoxy.

foxinthemudd 03-07-2008 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chezuki (Post 202512)
I used "Bondo Glass" to fix mine and it worked wonders. Use it just like bondo, but it has fiberglass strands in it. Gloop it on with a rubber scraper to the rough shape, and then sand it flush after it dries.

great! home depot should have the stuff I think I remember selling it there when I worked for them...

anyone have any suggestions on how I should deal with that hole???

and one more question, what should I do about the window wiper and brake light stuff??? do I need to get some wiring harness or something?

lost 03-07-2008 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chezuki (Post 202512)
I used "Bondo Glass" to fix mine and it worked wonders. Use it just like bondo, but it has fiberglass strands in it. Gloop it on with a rubber scraper to the rough shape, and then sand it flush after it dries.

i gotta try that out. I have a little "dent" in mine and a few chips.

yours came out good.

foxinthemudd 03-07-2008 05:20 PM

I looked at that bondo glass stuff today, it says you should only use that stuff if it is a quarter size or less. I think I might just keep it for a week or so then put it on craigslist for $600 OBO.

89 strangler 03-07-2008 08:12 PM

The top you have is probably made of smc which is similar to fiberglass but fiberglass will not adhere to it.It looks more like fiberglass when you get inside of it.You can use an epoxy called Speedgrip.Problem is the gun you need to extract the epoxy is about 80 bucks or so.You could probably have an easy 150 bucks wrapped up in epoxy and gun.But if you got the top for free it might be worth it.

foxinthemudd 03-07-2008 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 89 strangler (Post 203091)
The top you have is probably made of smc which is similar to fiberglass but fiberglass will not adhere to it.It looks more like fiberglass when you get inside of it.You can use an epoxy called Speedgrip.Problem is the gun you need to extract the epoxy is about 80 bucks or so.You could probably have an easy 150 bucks wrapped up in epoxy and gun.But if you got the top for free it might be worth it.

ya I did some checking around and sounds like your on top of the game with this :D. I don't know if I want to repair it or just put it up for sale and use the money for something else. (can't hurt right? :D) I like the way it looks and the way it sounds but it just means more time that I could be using on something else with more positive outcomes. I also talked to my buddy today and he has a friend who does fiberglassing and other stuff, he said that it wouldn't be worth it because of all the micro-fractures that the "hole" would caused everytime that I hit a bump or whatever and that the integrety of the top is comprimised because of this. SO..... what do yall think repair the top or sell it and make some money?

89 strangler 03-08-2008 01:11 AM

Well,
it was free so i guess anything you make off of it is profit.That never hurts:).I just picked up a top today and it has a small crack on the corner(not near as extensive as yours)It'l be worth my while to fix it because i already have all the stuff in the garage.If your in an area where that kinda stuff sellls like mad and you can make good money on it i would sell jmo.But if your in a selective area such as i am it'l be one of those "gotta find the right buyer" deals.Hey i'm sure that money could go toward some nice upgrades.If you were just a couple thousand miles closer i'd hook ya up.Good luck

foxinthemudd 03-08-2008 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 89 strangler (Post 203210)
Well,
it was free so i guess anything you make off of it is profit.That never hurts:).I just picked up a top today and it has a small crack on the corner(not near as extensive as yours)It'l be worth my while to fix it because i already have all the stuff in the garage.If your in an area where that kinda stuff sellls like mad and you can make good money on it i would sell jmo.But if your in a selective area such as i am it'l be one of those "gotta find the right buyer" deals.Hey i'm sure that money could go toward some nice upgrades.If you were just a couple thousand miles closer i'd hook ya up.Good luck

Ya I'm in portland oregon area and there are quite a few people with these rigs around here and in vancouver to buy stuff for them, I'm sure it would sell within a few days.

for my own personal knowledge and curiosity... How time consuming is this project if I did just happen to pick up on doing it... whats involved becides the obvious?

89 strangler 03-08-2008 02:05 PM

Well,
Without getting too lenghty.You have to grind out any loose and or damaged material (#36 grit on a grinder should do).Then you apply the SpeedGrip i was telling you about.Sometimes it helps if you tape the inside so the epoxy doesn't ooze through to the inside.You can get different "speeds" of epoxy.The stuff i have sets up in about 30-sec. to a minute.Give it 5 min and it's rock hard.Then you can shape it to the general shape.You can get it darn near where you need it with this stuff.Then you can lay some bodyfiller over top of that and get it perfect(start with 80 grit finish with 220).Then skim it with some type of spot glaze or equivalent(it fills pinholes and scrathes)finish sand glaze with 320 then prime and sand,then prep(sand)the rest of the top and spray it.Sounds like alot and there is more steps involved but that's it in a nutshell.That project would probably take me less than a day.Someone who has no or little exp. would probably take a couple days.But you definitetly want to take your time wether it takes you a day or a week.Alot of times it's not a matter of how difficult the steps are it's how straight and smooth you can get it.I would rather take longer and have the end result be a repair that you can't tell got repaired.It's less of a technical thing and more of a finess thing.Whew!My fingers are tired.


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