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jpdocdave 03-09-2008 07:27 PM

Powder coat frame?
 
hello everyone. i'm thinking about powdercoating my frame while it is off. i'm not real familiar with powder coat, i believe it is supposed to hold up very well, anyone have any experience with it, is it worth the cost? i can have the frame dipped, so it is 100% clean, then powder coated, to the tune of 700 bux. opinions welcome. thanks

OhioJeepguy 03-09-2008 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jpdocdave (Post 203877)
hello everyone. i'm thinking about powdercoating my frame while it is off. i'm not real familiar with powder coat, i believe it is supposed to hold up very well, anyone have any experience with it, is it worth the cost? i can have the frame dipped, so it is 100% clean, then powder coated, to the tune of 700 bux. opinions welcome. thanks

back in my college days, I used to work for a place that powder coated many things, and their money maker were dune buggy frames, motor cycles, and race car frames/roll cages. It is a great finish and very durable if the metal is prepared right as well as the company follows the recommendation with the powders, heat and cure time. Salt however will kill powder coat just like it does on a regular paintjob.

jpdocdave 03-09-2008 07:59 PM

thanks kenny, i'm trying to decide between powder, or clean, paint, and undercoat. what do you think, if i scrape it up on rocks will powder hold up better or worse?

HighTechRedneck 03-09-2008 08:05 PM

You'd think if prep. right that the powder coat would last longer than just a clean and paint.

jpdocdave 03-09-2008 08:23 PM

thats what i'd think, do you think about 500 bux better?

AzTJ 03-09-2008 08:41 PM

What about getting it Line-X'ed or Rhino lined?

HighTechRedneck 03-09-2008 08:53 PM

The bed in my Z-71 is Line-X'd and I give it heck with loading and unloading atvs, tools, and all kinds of stuff and it's holding up pretty darn good!

jpdocdave 03-09-2008 09:01 PM

i didn't think of that on the frame, i'm rhino lining the tub inside. would that hold up on the frame? sounds like a good idea? anyone done it?

OhioJeepguy 03-10-2008 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jpdocdave (Post 203901)
thanks kenny, i'm trying to decide between powder, or clean, paint, and undercoat. what do you think, if i scrape it up on rocks will powder hold up better or worse?


Yes, powder coating will take more abuse than paint will, but just like anything exposed to salt, it takes its toll.

soupy1957 03-11-2008 05:08 AM

Lots depends on the kind of riggers you are going to put your vehicle through.

If you live in a place where you get snow, and they salt the roads, it will help with protection against pre-mature rusting.

If you are going mud-bogging, it is gonna help, but there are other concerns as well.....

I'm assuming it is somewhat costly......who's picking up the tab???


-Soupy1957

jpdocdave 03-11-2008 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jpdocdave (Post 203877)
hello everyone. i'm thinking about powdercoating my frame while it is off. i'm not real familiar with powder coat, i believe it is supposed to hold up very well, anyone have any experience with it, is it worth the cost? i can have the frame dipped, so it is 100% clean, then powder coated, to the tune of 700 bux. opinions welcome. thanks

thanks soupy, i'm trying to decide if its $700 better. i live in midwest, won't drive much in winter, that's what xj is for. but i will take it out when i want to. will focus on rocks, and little mud. what ya think?

soupy1957 03-11-2008 02:53 PM

The undercoat won't help much with the rocks, (IMHO) and you'll still have to wash the underside anyway, once you get mud on it, because you'll get mud on your brakes, engine, etc...

-Soupy1957

HighTechRedneck 03-11-2008 06:46 PM

Well he said it's going to be off for a little bit so I guess it wouldn't hurt anything. Little protection is better than none right? I mean there is a lot of other things you can spend your money on that would be better than this, but if your really wanting to try something on the frame might as well give it a shot. Never hurts to try...heck might be better than expected. Just remember it's your decision, not ours, we're just here to help. :D

bluvikng 03-11-2008 07:40 PM

Rock is very abrasive, and with paint, you can easily touch up the scratches. Not so, with powder coating.

jpdocdave 03-11-2008 07:53 PM

ya, thanks guys, rocks are gonna beat anything up. i just know that the rear sections of the frames on these likes to rot. and i don't know how i found an 87, in my area 95% rust free. i sold my first yj, and i'm gonna keep this one forever, and do everything right.
and ya gotta wash em after wheeling, either spending about 20 bux at the car wash till they kick ya out, or a couple hours at home with a power washer, and garden hose.
haven't decided yet, but i'm leaning toward it, how many people powder coat the frame on their jeep, maybe just show trucks.

bluvikng 03-11-2008 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jpdocdave (Post 205058)
how many people powder coat the frame on their jeep, maybe just show trucks.


Exactly!!!!!!!!!

jpdocdave 03-11-2008 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bluvikng (Post 205061)
Exactly!!!!!!!!!

exactly cuz you think it doesn't hold up, or it is expensive and unique. most people think it will hold up well,
what about line x products, or else i'll just clean, paint, and undercoat the frame

bluvikng 03-11-2008 08:07 PM

I meant exactly, that only show vehicles would go to that extent, and $$$$$$$$

A good paint job, undercoating afterwards, will do just as good. All can be had from a rattle can.

jpdocdave 03-11-2008 08:21 PM

ya, trust me i wish i had about 12 large layin around and i'd just build the sucker. i gotta save for every step, but i'm not gonna cut corners, i am gonna do the best with in reason
to do a real good long term job, while the frame is off, it would require many hours of clean and prep, probably 20 easy, cleaning chemicals, wire brush wheels, sand paper, etc, primer, paint, under coat. probably easily run close to 300 bux easy, plus time.
nothing is gonna get cleaner than dipping it, thats 100%, i couldn't do that good myself. and if powder coat is gonna last better its worth spending 3 or 4 hundred more. if you don't do a good job on this stuff, you might as well not do it ya know, it only lasts a few years. i'm gonna keep this and my 4 year old can drive it some day.

bluvikng 03-11-2008 08:32 PM

I have heard of people dipping the frame in galvanizing metal. Then painting over that. I don't think that would ever rust. A club member did that, to his frame, turned out great.

jpdocdave 03-11-2008 08:37 PM

ah, there's a good idea, know how much it set him back?

bluvikng 03-11-2008 08:40 PM

Not as much as you would think. I think it cost him $200.00, but we have a galvanizing plant close by.


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