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SKYLINE-CJ5 06-04-2012 09:41 AM

Tie rod/drag link seem loose?
 
Noticed last week in my '10 JKU sport, which has a small lift, unsure of what brand, bought it from dealer lifted on 35's, it has a slight shimmy to it while driving at any speed, at random times. Feels somewhat like a tire out of balance, but I can feel it in the wheel. I checked everything underneath and everything is tight, but I noticed the drag link, running from passenger side to driver side, the joints at the end feel very loose. It takes no effort to twist it at all. I'm taking it to dealer after work today to have them check it out, I'm just curious if this is a common problem? Is there anything else I should look at that I might not have thought of? Thanks in advance!

pluke the 2 06-04-2012 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SKYLINE-CJ5 (Post 2435260)
Noticed last week in my '10 JKU sport, which has a small lift, unsure of what brand, bought it from dealer lifted on 35's, it has a slight shimmy to it while driving at any speed, at random times. Feels somewhat like a tire out of balance, but I can feel it in the wheel. I checked everything underneath and everything is tight, but I noticed the drag link, running from passenger side to driver side, the joints at the end feel very loose. It takes no effort to twist it at all. I'm taking it to dealer after work today to have them check it out, I'm just curious if this is a common problem? Is there anything else I should look at that I might not have thought of? Thanks in advance!

Your Draglink can move in a rotational direction just like your tie-rod. However, any motion besides rotational is not good. Up-Down movement and Left to right movement is no good. You need to be looking at the Draglink ends for play, or movement. Ultimately, you need a large pair of Channel Locks to grab the botton and top of the joint, while squeezing them together, to look for Up-Down play. If you see that, you know they are bad.


Planman has an awesome informative video regarding death wobbles and shimmies.

kjeeper10 06-04-2012 10:01 AM

Must see video :thumb:

SKYLINE-CJ5 06-04-2012 10:03 AM

Can anyone post a link to the video?

3JKs1H1 06-04-2012 10:05 AM

A new one off the lot will twist with one hand. It's supposed to be able to.
As Pluke mentioned, the contained ball joint shouldn't have slop.

If you start it up and turn the wheel - there should be any side-to-side play.

kjeeper10 06-04-2012 10:09 AM

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/dia...os-164023.html

pluke the 2 06-04-2012 10:27 AM

KJ, why you got to make him take one more step!?






Death Wobble Diagnosis and Inspection Jeep JK Wrangler Part 1 - YouTube

Death Wobble Diagnosis and Inspection Jeep JK Wrangler Part 2 - YouTube

kjeeper10 06-04-2012 10:37 AM

I'm lazy :)

ESP 06-04-2012 10:42 AM

Have you had your tires balanced? If it's a slight shimmy at or near highway speeds then it's quite possibly a tire balancing issue. Was for me.

SKYLINE-CJ5 06-04-2012 11:02 AM

I believe it's a tire out of balance, there's still that little thought in the back of my mind saying otherwise lol.
I just got to thinking tie rod ends and drag links when I realized how easy my drag link is to rotate haha. After watching the videos, thanks by the way, I'm leaning more towards its a tire out of balance.

kjeeper10 06-04-2012 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SKYLINE-CJ5
I believe it's a tire out of balance, there's still that little thought in the back of my mind saying otherwise lol.
I just got to thinking tie rod ends and drag links when I realized how easy my drag link is to rotate haha. After watching the videos, thanks by the way, I'm leaning more towards its a tire out of balance.

Rotate the tires and see if you can pin point the bad one .

SKYLINE-CJ5 06-04-2012 11:34 PM

Well I got my jeep to the dealership, and they acted like they didn't wanna look at it when I said it had a shimmy to it while driving. So I took it to a tire shop I passed on the way home, and got them to check my tires' balance. Front right was off by 12 ounces! He said a few of the stick on weights had fallen off. Got em all checked and re balance and now it drives great! Thank y'all for the help!

3JKs1H1 06-05-2012 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SKYLINE-CJ5 (Post 2438173)
Well I got my jeep to the dealership, and they acted like they didn't wanna look at it when I said it had a shimmy to it while driving. So I took it to a tire shop I passed on the way home, and got them to check my tires' balance. Front right was off by 12 ounces! He said a few of the stick on weights had fallen off. Got em all checked and re balance and now it drives great! Thank y'all for the help!

12 ounces??????

I would expect a brand name stock tire size on a stock wheel to be off around 2 ounces.

To get to 12 ounce you need a 42" bias ply on split-metal combat rims with beadlocks.

Yoiu tire was poorly manufactured or the rim is bent.


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