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jporter 04-26-2006 12:31 PM

hi guys! noobie
 
hey i am a newbie but have been a jeep lover all my life i currently own a 98 red 4cyl. I'm sure this has been covered but are their any advantages to me having the 4 banger vs the 6? thanks!

JeepCrawler98 04-26-2006 01:15 PM

less weight, less breakage, and better mileage; that's about it :)

jeeperman 04-26-2006 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JeepCrawler98
less weight, less breakage, and better mileage; that's about it :)

Yeah, what he^^^^ said... I wouldn't worry about having the 4 instead of the 6, you can make up for the power difference with gearing in the low speed stuff, and if you are looking for a drag racer, you should sell it all together and buy a muscle car!;) :D

paracutin 04-26-2006 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JeepCrawler98
less weight, less breakage, and better mileage; that's about it :)

Advantages? Nope.
Trade-offs? Yep.
Less weight? Yes but less power. The HP/LB ratio is better for the 6cyl.
Less breakage? Highly debateable. I have not seen postings on this or any other Jeep board that would substantiate that.
Better mileage? Yep, at the cost of power. I don't know about you but 2 or 3 mpg will not dictate which vehicle I'd choose.
I keep talking about power don't I. Before all of the drag racer posts start let me explain. By the time you add real bumpers, skid plates, a winch ect... you will be wishing you had the extra power of the 6cyl.

Both are great vehicles!:D
Enjoy yours!

amerijeep 04-26-2006 05:15 PM

Nothing wrong with it, Bro. I'd be glad to have it.

amerijeep 04-26-2006 05:16 PM

By the way, we here in this forum don't care if something has been covered before. We'll always be glad to go back to it. The more perspective, we'll all be that much better off.

97TjZack 04-26-2006 05:27 PM

The only good think IMHO is less breakage. Its going to be harder to break things if you dont have as much torque. You can of course still break stuff. I'm sure lots of guys with 4-bangers will tell ya that. But its less likely. Not trying to dog on your Jeep or anything Its probably just as capable as a I-6. Have fun with it!!

1BLKJP 04-26-2006 05:32 PM

IMO that less breakage thing can go both ways. If you are trying to crawl up something with the six it might have enough power to walk it up with you. The 4 you might have to give it some juice to make it up which can cause hoping and such which can definitely lead to breakage of drivetrain components. Especially the D35.

But It's real hard to say which one is the "best". I've driven a friends righ with the 4 banger and 6.38 gearing and I think that my 6 with 3.73 gearing is pretty damn comparable to the pep his has with the monster low gears.

97TjZack 04-26-2006 05:52 PM

6.38!!! haha that would be awesome!!

jeepsrus 04-26-2006 07:15 PM

It is all in your style of wheeling........if you have the right gears for the engine, and tires, you can do anything.

JeepCrawler98 04-26-2006 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by paracutin
Advantages? Nope.
Trade-offs? Yep.
Less weight? Yes but less power. The HP/LB ratio is better for the 6cyl.
Less breakage? Highly debateable. I have not seen postings on this or any other Jeep board that would substantiate that.
Better mileage? Yep, at the cost of power. I don't know about you but 2 or 3 mpg will not dictate which vehicle I'd choose.
I keep talking about power don't I. Before all of the drag racer posts start let me explain. By the time you add real bumpers, skid plates, a winch ect... you will be wishing you had the extra power of the 6cyl.

Both are great vehicles!:D
Enjoy yours!

I'd say my 28mpg's is worth it on everything but cross-country trips :D

Texapple 04-26-2006 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jporter
hey i am a newbie but have been a jeep lover all my life i currently own a 98 red 4cyl. I'm sure this has been covered but are their any advantages to me having the 4 banger vs the 6? thanks!

I won't offer an opinion :cool:.....just saying: welcome to the forum, glad to have you with us :D

jporter 04-27-2006 01:52 AM

well thanks guys for the warm welcome and info...i've heard a lot of debate about this issue but my buddy says is a better engine for just trail riding which i mostly intend to do. he has a custom frame with a toyota 22r engine with a land rover body..he works at east coast rover here in maine...so i figured he would know...now i gotta get shopping for a lift. i have 31 inch mtr's right now but i'd like another 4 inches anyways

paracutin 04-27-2006 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JeepCrawler98
I'd say my 28mpg's is worth it on everything but cross-country trips :D

What on earth do you do to get 28mpg?
I can't imagine this sceniero. A 200 mile stretch of flat desert highway and you were doing 45mph in 5th gear?
I am sorry for being so sarcastic and I am HONESTLY not trying to call you a liar but 28mpg seems a bit high. I read 6 different Jeep boards and no one has reported mileage over 22 mpg.
Even the good ol EPA doesn't rate them that high and we all know their numbers are 10% - 20% more than real word driving. The highest rating from 1988 thru 2006 was 21mpg for the
I4 with a 5 speed on the highway.

amerijeep 04-27-2006 10:03 AM

He probably meant 28 gallons to the mile. :)

khenderson 04-27-2006 10:09 AM

David's jeep isn't exactly normal. he has taken out everthing that isn't involved in making the jeep go forward. so all that hvac, think he's runnin electric fan, etc. and of course flat land helps. but i've wondered his 28mpg secret for a while now.

JeepCrawler98 04-27-2006 12:01 PM

Well - the drastic increase occured right after I replaced my O2 sensors; before then it ran at about 22 or 23 or so down here. My '28' figure is consistent to this day, and calculated using my GPS (so the distance travelled is acurate). This is driving between phoenix and back (about a 1000' elevation change over 100 miles - so flat) cruising at 75mph minimum, and driving up to Show Low from Tucson (about a 4000' climb, with lots of canyons and mountain passes to cross over - typical mountain highway) it gets anywhere from 26 to 27 driving at about 65mph on average.

paracutin 04-27-2006 01:18 PM

What prompted you to replace the O2 sensors?

JeepCrawler98 04-27-2006 02:00 PM

130,000 miles of not replacing them :) Oh and also - the Jeep stank of "Rich fuel" when using engine braking, especially on the trail.

1BLKJP 04-27-2006 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 97TjZack
6.38!!! haha that would be awesome!!

It is pretty awesome except on the road. He's got a 4:1 in it too. When you put it in 4LO and Stand on the brakes it can still bark the 37's. :D

That's why it gets trailered everywhere.


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