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sean112280 06-04-2012 02:09 PM

Discover pass question
 
I am military and the government just passed a thing stating that military with ID now get into all state parks and national forests for free. Do I still need to buy a discover pass?

Saints 06-04-2012 02:13 PM

Thats for active duty and retired personnel. show them your ID and you should be fine in national parks. State one you might be out of luck.

sean112280 06-04-2012 02:18 PM

Ok cool. I'm active duty. So places like Elbe and tahuya I'd be good then right?

nwbronco 06-04-2012 02:41 PM

Try doing this....

For information, e-mail
or call toll-free (866) 320-9933

From the WSDP website.



And of course, it says at the bottom of the exemptions page: Even if you are exempt. Buying the pass is helping fund park activities.

Bob K.

sean112280 06-04-2012 06:20 PM

Thank you for the info

nwbronco 06-04-2012 07:25 PM

Good luck with it and see you on the trails soon.

Bob K.

sean112280 06-04-2012 10:45 PM

Thank you and I hope so

zeprider25 06-08-2012 01:25 PM

I already have the year pass but atleast I won't have to renew.

blackknight23 06-19-2012 02:31 AM

So what was the vertic do we still need the pass or mil id good to go wheeling

nwbronco 06-19-2012 08:15 AM

See post #4

Bob K.

badmts 06-27-2012 11:28 PM

The feds can't get past DISCOVER PASS requirement(ELBE,TAHUYA,ROCK CANDY).They CAN get you (I.D. holders) out of the USDA/USFS pass required at EVANS CREEK or any 4x4 place that is FEDERAL LAND -So if the truck pulling you over says DNR,XXXXX COUNTY SHERIFF or FISH&GAME you really need a DISCOVER PASS .If it is Forest Service,Forest Ranger or has GSA plates you need USDA/USFS pass or if the ID thing is true a MIL I.D. I buy them both a year at a time and leave them on rear view mirror.

sean112280 07-01-2012 06:17 PM

If its true? Here you go:
http://store.usgs.gov/pass/military.html

nwbronco 07-01-2012 06:29 PM

Covers Federal stuff just fine. Not the state stuff. To wheel everywhere is Washington that allows wheelin',you'd need 4 different passes. 2 are Federal, 2 are not.

i.e. Washington Discover Pass. No federal tie. ORV Pass, no federal tie.

Tahuya, Discover Pass
Evans Creek Forest Pass federal tie. Off Road Vehical Pass no federal tie. But, reciprocal ORV with state of Oregon. (We have the Or. one $10.50 for 2 years).

Federal lands are a plentiful in the wheeling world. And you can get exempt from them. ORV stuff, the state wants their money too and will get it as well. Find the trail listed that you want to wheel and see what is required. Don't be surprised if 2 are needed and only 1 is federal.

Nothing is simple about wheelin' any more.

Bob K.

johnpmcelroy 07-01-2012 09:58 PM

I researched this and it seems military are not exempt. You will need a Discover pass to use State Parks. I dont think your exempt from National Forest either. And if retired, you have to be really disabled. Washington State Discover Pass exemptions

johnpmcelroy 07-01-2012 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sean112280 (Post 2534822)

I think this only pertains to National Parks like Yosemite. Also, if you go to the home page and read the NOTE: NOTE: Recreation Fees vary widely across the thousands of Federal Recreation sites. Please contact specific sites directly for information on what is or is not covered by the passes.

johnpmcelroy 07-01-2012 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by blackknight23 (Post 2488569)
So what was the vertic do we still need the pass or mil id good to go wheeling

Everywhere is different, you have to pay to play.

johnpmcelroy 07-01-2012 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sean112280 (Post 2435895)
I am military and the government just passed a thing stating that military with ID now get into all state parks and national forests for free. Do I still need to buy a discover pass?

I'd also like to see where you got your information from and what exactly it said. Nothing in this world is free.

sean112280 07-02-2012 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by johnpmcelroy
I'd also like to see where you got your information from and what exactly it said. Nothing in this world is free.

I posted the link. Read into it. Follow the links in it. Also it shows where the passes are good.

badmts 07-02-2012 08:15 AM

here is an idea - wait to get stopped by the authorities ,then tell 'em how you read on the internet that you don't need no stinkin' pass and he is stupid for not knowing this stuff and you will gladly set him straight ! DON'T TAZE ME BRO!!

sean112280 07-02-2012 02:12 PM

Ok guy. Way to get hostile on " the Internet" like u just told me. I put the info out there so others can read it and see what they make of it. I am just trying to find out more info.

nwbronco 07-02-2012 04:04 PM

Nobody is getting hostile Brother. We just don't want you going out with wet powder. Some of the forest rangers have no problem taking your money, as ignorance is no excuse applies. I recommend you call the agency over the area you want to wheel in and see what they say. And let's go wheelin' already.

Bob K.

sean112280 07-02-2012 04:46 PM

Ok so what is needed for Evans Creek?

sean112280 07-02-2012 07:18 PM

ok just called the forest service. The pass for the military covers national forests as well. So as far as EVANS CREEK, Active Military would be free. It is covered under the "America The Beautiful program. You would just have to get the YEARLY pass. which under my link I posted above you can see where you can get one. Now as far as the other spots like elbe or tahuya I have not looked into yet.

blackknight23 07-02-2012 07:50 PM

kool thanks sean this helps alot....

sean112280 07-02-2012 08:05 PM

No problem. Trying to help

johnpmcelroy 07-02-2012 08:26 PM

Youre the one asking the question. I go to National Forest every week and witness people getting citations, for parking and not having passes. I think its a $100.00 fine. And I see people using Discover Pass in National Forest. Uh, No! But youre on the right track and its good to be alert for these things. I have both passes, Discover and National Forest Annual Passes and I'm Retired. If I were to go to Mount Rainier National Part, I would not have a clue if my passes would work or discount for Military. But I do know how to research this issue. Theres alot of info out there such as Forest Service, State Park, and County Sites. I like to hike and Bike and site see, so all these sites are really useful. Something else to keep and eye for is Road Closures. Weather and Dangerous conditions. Trees do fall, so you better be prepared.

X-Truck-Owner 07-03-2012 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnpmcelroy (Post 2538597)
Youre the one asking the question. I go to National Forest every week and witness people getting citations, for parking and not having passes. I think its a $100.00 fine. And I see people using Discover Pass in National Forest. Uh, No! But youre on the right track and its good to be alert for these things. I have both passes, Discover and National Forest Annual Passes and I'm Retired. If I were to go to Mount Rainier National Part, I would not have a clue if my passes would work or discount for Military. But I do know how to research this issue. Theres alot of info out there such as Forest Service, State Park, and County Sites. I like to hike and Bike and site see, so all these sites are really useful. Something else to keep and eye for is Road Closures. Weather and Dangerous conditions. Trees do fall, so you better be prepared.


Just so you know, if you are retired and collecting better than 30% disability you can get the Washington Disabled Veterans Lifetime Pass, then the Discovery Pass requirement is exempted for State Parks and Forests by that, but on DNR and DFW lands you still need one...although with enough disability those two are exempted by a State handicapped placard or plate. Additionally, you can also get the Access Pass which is good for all National Parks and Forests, with the same amount of disability. As far as your comment of: "Nothing is Free" you are correct, it only took 20 years of my life, two knees, an ankle, hearing loss, a shoulder, nerve damage in all my extremities, and a few messed up dreams...so the term 'free' is used loosely in my house.

sean112280 07-03-2012 09:43 PM

Thank you for your service as well X-Truck!

zeprider25 07-04-2012 01:48 AM

nice to see some more MJ guys in here :-)

sean112280 07-04-2012 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by zeprider25
nice to see some more MJ guys in here :-)

I agree.


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