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Jackson Wrangler 06-06-2012 08:49 PM

New 2012 Unlimited Dual Top - intial soft top removal
 
Just bought my first Jeep - 2012 Sahara Unlimited and new to the site. I'm excited to get started as a Jeep owner as I am moving out to Jackson, Wyoming at the end of the month from Chicago and I'm confident the vehicle will serve me well in that environment. Any initial tips would be appreciated.

I'm sure this was probably touched upon, but I was ill-advised by the dealership in how to deal with the dual top initially and maybe it will help another new owner.

The soft top comes installed with the hard top over it when you buy the new vehicle with a neon orange sign on the folded up soft top that states must be removed or will become damaged/warranty voided. Really, it just makes loading/unloading trunk extremely difficult.

Anyway, according to the dealer, all I needed was a #40 Torx drill bit to take the soft top out after having removed the hard top. It turns out that you also need a #30 Torx bit as well to remove screws that connect the soft top harness to the roll bars. Here's the steps:

1) Remove front panels of hard top
2) Remove 2 x top screws (one on each side above the rear doors) on hard top then 6 x screws at the base of the hard top inside the vehicle (three on each side) using #40 Torx.
3)Remove hard top
4) Unscrew soft top harness from roll cage 2 x screws on each side #30 torx
5) Remove soft top
6) Replace Hard top and front panels

Now the only question is how I'm going to fit the soft top, windows, other attachments in the jeep along with all my belongings for my trip from Chicago to Wyoming.

Cheers,
Dan

Blastek 06-06-2012 09:56 PM

you're ok to reinstall the soft top underneath the hardtop if it's just for a few days of driving. just make sure you don't have any weight on it. you'd probably be better off getting a soft top roll for the windows and pulling the other hardware out of the second box to save room in the back.

dvitous 06-06-2012 10:43 PM

I haven't taken my softop off my JKU yet... but on my TJ... the brackets stayed on the roll bar, and you just unscrewed/removed the bows from the bracket. I'd assume the same program.

But yeah... you got the rest right. Got my hard top hangin' from the garage ceiling. 1 man operation of the soft top tho... I dunno. That first time was a bit rough (but aint it always?) ;-)

Con Artist 06-07-2012 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackson Wrangler (Post 2446206)
Just bought my first Jeep - 2012 Sahara Unlimited and new to the site. I'm excited to get started as a Jeep owner as I am moving out to Jackson, Wyoming at the end of the month from Chicago and I'm confident the vehicle will serve me well in that environment. Any initial tips would be appreciated.

I'm sure this was probably touched upon, but I was ill-advised by the dealership in how to deal with the dual top initially and maybe it will help another new owner.

The soft top comes installed with the hard top over it when you buy the new vehicle with a neon orange sign on the folded up soft top that states must be removed or will become damaged/warranty voided. Really, it just makes loading/unloading trunk extremely difficult.

Anyway, according to the dealer, all I needed was a #40 Torx drill bit to take the soft top out after having removed the hard top. It turns out that you also need a #30 Torx bit as well to remove screws that connect the soft top harness to the roll bars. Here's the steps:

1) Remove front panels of hard top
2) Remove 2 x top screws (one on each side above the rear doors) on hard top then 6 x screws at the base of the hard top inside the vehicle (three on each side) using #40 Torx.
3)Remove hard top
4) Unscrew soft top harness from roll cage 2 x screws on each side #30 torx
5) Remove soft top
6) Replace Hard top and front panels

Now the only question is how I'm going to fit the soft top, windows, other attachments in the jeep along with all my belongings for my trip from Chicago to Wyoming.

Cheers,
Dan

Just had to deal with this, Dan. I just took my Jeep back to the dealer and had them remove everything for me. I just put the back seats down (it's a JKU) so it could be transported. The dealer charged me like $20 to do it. You definitely want to get the softtop out as soon as you can to prevent any kind of damage.

mathjak 06-07-2012 04:18 AM

i left mine in all winter and just pulled it out for the first time.

the soft top has a thin plastic protector wrapped around it from the factory and i can see rubbing in spots where the soft top makes contact against the hard top hidden from view.

you want to get the soft top out asap.

Jackson Wrangler 06-07-2012 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvitous (Post 2446778)
I haven't taken my softop off my JKU yet... but on my TJ... the brackets stayed on the roll bar, and you just unscrewed/removed the bows from the bracket. I'd assume the same program.

But yeah... you got the rest right. Got my hard top hangin' from the garage ceiling. 1 man operation of the soft top tho... I dunno. That first time was a bit rough (but aint it always?) ;-)

Interesting, I guess that would have saved me a trip to the hardware store to get the #30 torx bit, but still involves unscrewing (probably 6 one way half a dozen the other) that the dealer didn't prepare me for. Thanks for the info. I've seen the hard top wench online - very cool. We'll see if I become technically saavy and acquire the tools to build one.

Jackson Wrangler 06-07-2012 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mathjak (Post 2447279)
i left mine in all winter and just pulled it out for the first time.

the soft top has a thin plastic protector wrapped around it from the factory and i can see rubbing in spots where the soft top makes contact against the hard top hidden from view.

you want to get the soft top out asap.


Good to know, glad I took it out especially with a a thousand miles to drive next week. That's the first i've seen of an objective reason to take it out.

Joltdawg 06-13-2012 09:39 PM

Curious question... Any of you that got the dual option top not have rear door panels installed? I have a 2011 unlimited and I have no place to snap in the side window because I have no panel? Someone can just reach their hand in to the right of the door because that side of the window has nothing to attach to? Help! :(

devildog330 07-21-2012 12:08 PM

Installing Hardtop
 
I have 2001 ..just won a hardtop on ebay ..my question is can I install this hardtop on the jeep without removing the softtop .. Can i just lower it and the hardtop fit still?? Just to get home on as the hardtop will again be removed for the rest of summer

InfernoGirl 07-21-2012 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by devildog330 (Post 2608225)
I have 2001 ..just won a hardtop on ebay ..my question is can I install this hardtop on the jeep without removing the softtop .. Can i just lower it and the hardtop fit still?? Just to get home on as the hardtop will again be removed for the rest of summer

Yes, fold down the soft top.

mannaggia 07-21-2012 12:44 PM

Thanks - I just got my JKU two weeks ago and then went on vaca and haven't had time to deal with the hard top/soft top. I just went and bought a #40 bit this morning - now I have to go back and get the #30. (They should supply these with the dual top option...)

unionjewel 07-21-2012 09:49 PM

Be sure and get another set of hands as well. The hard top weighs more than you think. On my JKU, I thought it was stuck the first time I took it off. Turned out it weighed 140 lbs and to lift it up and over the spare tire is a trick. Open the back window which helps to move it straight back. Also plan where you are going to place it...like packing blankets or the like. You will be be wanting to set it down quick.

nealwsw 02-24-2013 01:55 PM

I'm going this route!!!
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by con artist (Post 2447188)
just had to deal with this, dan. I just took my jeep back to the dealer and had them remove everything for me. I just put the back seats down (it's a jku) so it could be transported. The dealer charged me like $20 to do it. You definitely want to get the softtop out as soon as you can to prevent any kind of damage.


sem7 02-24-2013 09:31 PM

When I took my hardtop off and stored it on the floor of my garage I got a couple of those pool noodles you float on and slit them lengthwise. I then slipped them over the edges resting on the floor to protect the bottom. Worked great.

st1264 03-20-2013 11:14 PM

I have the Dual Top group and I have to do this undertaking I guess... I asked about the install/removal at the dealer for spring (didn't realize the soft top had to be taken out immediately) and it didn't appear that they wanted to help. Told me to go on YouTube.

So if I don't have an extra set of hands I'll have to take it to the dealer to do it :redface:

Amwajtommy 03-21-2013 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st1264 (Post 3531905)
I have the Dual Top group and I have to do this undertaking I guess... I asked about the install/removal at the dealer for spring (didn't realize the soft top had to be taken out immediately) and it didn't appear that they wanted to help. Told me to go on YouTube.

So if I don't have an extra set of hands I'll have to take it to the dealer to do it :redface:

If you park your Jeep outside and have a cooler full of brewskies, you probably won't have any problem finding a helping hand, it's easily removed by two average sized people....

Deepjeep1371 03-21-2013 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st1264 (Post 3531905)
I have the Dual Top group and I have to do this undertaking I guess... I asked about the install/removal at the dealer for spring (didn't realize the soft top had to be taken out immediately) and it didn't appear that they wanted to help. Told me to go on YouTube.

So if I don't have an extra set of hands I'll have to take it to the dealer to do it :redface:

I studied that thing for a while, removed the bolts and finally came to the conclusion that it was not coming out with out hard top removal. (this was the first week I had the Jeep, and no forum experience at the time).

st1264 03-21-2013 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amwajtommy (Post 3532138)
If you park your Jeep outside and have a cooler full of brewskies, you probably won't have any problem finding a helping hand, it's easily removed by two average sized people....

The high temperature is going to be 34 F (1 C) tomorrow (below normal)... my neighbor is a Jeep owner but it's too damned cold this year. If the dealer will do it for free I'll get it done there or wait a couple weeks and get a buddy to help me when it warms up a little.

I'm a newbie, first Wrangler, so this is a new experience. Mine is a 13' if that makes any difference. It has 270 km on it so far. I've been babying it for the engine break-in period.

I'm eyeing the makeshift pulley systems people have devised for their JKU on Youtube. Looks very interesting.

AKOOMA 04-08-2013 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackson Wrangler (Post 2446206)
Just bought my first Jeep - 2012 Sahara Unlimited and new to the site. I'm excited to get started as a Jeep owner as I am moving out to Jackson, Wyoming at the end of the month from Chicago and I'm confident the vehicle will serve me well in that environment. Any initial tips would be appreciated.

I'm sure this was probably touched upon, but I was ill-advised by the dealership in how to deal with the dual top initially and maybe it will help another new owner.

The soft top comes installed with the hard top over it when you buy the new vehicle with a neon orange sign on the folded up soft top that states must be removed or will become damaged/warranty voided. Really, it just makes loading/unloading trunk extremely difficult.

Anyway, according to the dealer, all I needed was a #40 Torx drill bit to take the soft top out after having removed the hard top. It turns out that you also need a #30 Torx bit as well to remove screws that connect the soft top harness to the roll bars. Here's the steps:

1) Remove front panels of hard top
2) Remove 2 x top screws (one on each side above the rear doors) on hard top then 6 x screws at the base of the hard top inside the vehicle (three on each side) using #40 Torx.
3)Remove hard top
4) Unscrew soft top harness from roll cage 2 x screws on each side #30 torx
5) Remove soft top
6) Replace Hard top and front panels

Now the only question is how I'm going to fit the soft top, windows, other attachments in the jeep along with all my belongings for my trip from Chicago to Wyoming.

Cheers,
Dan

Can someone clarify which screws need to removed in Step 4? A picture would be helpful. Also, what the heck am I supposed to do with those straps? Thanks!!

Blastek 04-08-2013 03:37 PM

There are two screws on each side that anchor the soft top frame to the rollbar. The screws drive directly into the rollbar (they may be obscured by the padding)

st1264 04-15-2013 03:19 PM

I did this with a friend. It was pretty easy, the hardtop on my JKU is heavier than I thought it would be. Got the soft top out by removing the screws.

I don't think there is any type of damage to be done if you run both. I don't see any rubbing of any sort possible, at all. There is a protector around the top with snaps.

Went from 45 yesterday to 68 today! I see the sun (after a week of rain). Topless!

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93civEJ1 05-27-2013 06:38 AM

I may try to tackle this in a minute. oh what fun it shall be.


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