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Joe Dirt 03-12-2008 07:21 PM

accelerator steering
 
I just upgraded to a Rugged Ridge steering system. It fixed my bumpsteer, but it still goes left when I accelerate and right when I let off. Has anyone had this issue and what did you do to fix it. It seemed to start doing it about the time I rotated the rear axle to line up with the CV shaft & SYE.

parrot head 03-12-2008 07:31 PM

sounds like your axle is either not tightened down properly or one of the control arms is loose or has a bad bushing?

skeeter 03-12-2008 08:13 PM

Mine was doing that really bad this winter, that's how I discovered I have a locker up front and my axle lock up dohickey wasn't working.:rolleyes:

Jerry Bransford 03-12-2008 08:14 PM

Do you have a rear automatic locker? And are you certain the RR steering kit totally cured the bumpsteer? Maybe there's still a little BS left, does it use a dropped Pitman arm and is there a dropped upper trackbar mount that is part of the kit? :)

Triple88a 03-12-2008 08:15 PM

does it bump steer too?

nicolas-eric 03-12-2008 08:21 PM

the steering linkage goes from the frame down to the axle.
when you accellerate (the front of the jeep goes up) the linkage will pull the wheels to the left. when you brake (the front ofthe jeep goes down) it pushes the wheels to the right.

the more you lift the jeep the more this wll happen.
peopla who arenīt familiar with jeeps always think that there is something wrong with the jeep.
donīt hold the steering wheel that hard. then the steering wheel will move a bit and your jeep wonīt move to the left/right when you accellerate/brake.

Triple88a 03-12-2008 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicolas-eric (Post 205619)
the steering linkage goes from the frame down to the axle.
when you accellerate (the front of the jeep goes up) the linkage will pull the wheels to the left. when you brake (the front ofthe jeep goes down) it pushes the wheels to the right.

The track bar is also connected on the same arc. When you accelerate, it pulls the axle too to the left. When you brake it pushes the axle to the right.


This makes me ask, what track bar do you have? Also where is it connected? Any brackets? Drop pitman arm?

nicolas-eric 03-12-2008 08:28 PM

i have the stock track bar and the stock steering linkage.
in normal situations everything is fine. but when i acceletrate very fast or brake very much, then it moves a bit to the left or the right.

Triple88a 03-12-2008 08:30 PM

how do you run the stock track bar with 4.5" of lift man? When i did my lift it could not fit.

The reason why i have not looked into this is i rather add the 200 bucks to a hydraulic steering with a 3 point or 4 point suspension than a better track bar axle centering and the Y steering.

nicolas-eric 03-12-2008 08:34 PM

when i installed the lift i didnīt demount the track bar.
the front axle sticks out only 1/2" on the left side.
the rear axle is still centered with the OME track bar bracket.

Triple88a 03-12-2008 08:37 PM

Mine could not work as the track bar was hitting the bracket on the axle.

On my picture the track bar should bolt on to that bolt left+below the joint where the drag link meets the tie rod.

Thats the reason why i have the axle bracket.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...t/DSCF0018.jpg

4.0l sahara 03-12-2008 08:39 PM

Ya is there still any bump steer?

Joe Dirt 03-12-2008 11:30 PM

The rear has a Teraflex adjustible trackbar. The front has a Skyjacker adjustible trackbar. The steering linkage was binding when I had the drop pitman on it, so I put the stock one back on. It doesn't seem to have bumpsteer, but the alignment guy was freaked out and said something must be wrong. It did the same thing before the new steering kit, but I would like to find a way to correct it if possible.

Triple88a 03-12-2008 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Dirt (Post 205857)
but I would like to find a way to correct it if possible.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ing/index.html
:punk: <<mohawk smiley

Joe Dirt 03-14-2008 03:46 AM

OK I now hate that RR steering system. The loose steering wheel feel of the system made driving through the canyon this morning a nightmare. I pulled it back off tonight and put the stock linkage back on with a drop pitman arm. The drop pitman helps a lot and makes it livable. I know some people here seem to love the Rugged Ridge steering system, but I can't recommend it.

Triple88a 03-15-2008 12:25 PM

what do you mean loose steering wheel feel?

Joe Dirt 03-16-2008 05:25 AM

The RR system has slack in the system. The wheels turn without the steering wheel turning and you can turn the wheel without the wheels turning. On mountain roads it gets a little scary. After putting the drop pitman on the old system and getting a good alignment it handles very well. I wish I had just gotten the drop pitman in the first place.

Rawkon 03-16-2008 07:28 PM

can you take a pictures of your front steering?

sounds like bad hub bearings.

The only way a steering system will have a "loose feeling" is if something is loose or worn out. with a 3 inch lift there is no need for a drop pitman arm. I still have the stock arm with the re 3.5 lift. which is more like 4.something inches of lift. if the steering is tight and you still have play, hub bearings, ball joints, control arms need to be looked at. is your axle centered?


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