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the.hatter 06-28-2012 07:15 PM

Stock vs. 1" body lift & motor mount lift - is it noticeable enough??
 
Hi all!

I've the proud new owner of a 2003 Sahara, and have been slowly changing things to make her better (IMO), such as removing the milk jugs, mud flaps (yes it had those lol), new sway bar links, etc.

The Jeep has 30x9.5x15 tires now, with enough good tread left that I'm not going to be getting new tires for a few years. My next set though I'm planning on opting for 31x10.5x15, which from what I've read will fit fine with my stock suspension since I don't off road. I'm afraid of a tucked in look though with no lift whatsoever, so not sure about this.

My Jeep got called "cute" the other day by some of the women in my office, so :banghead: been reading up on the manly thread! I do think a mild suspension lift is somewhere in my future, but in the meantime, I have a few questions ..

With my 30" tires currently, would a 1" body lift do anything for the looks? Will it be noticeable enough (and look better) to be worth the time and money? I figure I'll just do the motor mount lift at the same time, but still toying with all these ideas.

Do any of you regret not doing a 1.25" body lift if you did a 1" one?

Any pics of stock suspension and 1" or 1.25" body lifts?

Thanks all!!!! Baby's crying, gotta go .. :surrender:

MarkNog 06-28-2012 08:56 PM

I've got 2.5" of lift and 31s and am looking to get a 1.25" BL and MML and order some 33s in my near future!

In your situation, its noticable but your have to be a jeeper to know. The lady in your office is not going to notice a thing...

BLK00TJ 06-28-2012 09:26 PM

I doubt anyone ever regrets a 1" BL + 1" MML, but that amount of lift isn't going to change much. It still may be "cute" to your lady co-workers. Maybe it was their way of asking for a ride ;).

Anyway, the lift you asked about can be a springboard for your next step which would be a suspension lift and new wheels and tires.

the.hatter 06-29-2012 08:55 AM

Thanks for the responses! I'm going to do a little more research on the 2" coil spacer lifts and see if those won't be a better fit for me at this stage.

TXST8tj 06-29-2012 10:26 AM

Here is mine with a 1.25" body lift (1" MML also) and 30" tires.

http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/2e6824ff.jpg


Here is it with the body lift and 3/4" coil spacers f/r with the same 30" tires (how it currently sits).

http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/e6b620fe.jpg


The 1" body lift will be noticeable to YOU, but most people wouldn't know you had it. That is one of the nice things about it.
Even with mine sitting at exactly 2" of lift over stock, most people don't even realize it. I think if I was running a larger than stock-size tire, people would probably see it as being a bit taller.

I think 31s would be perfect with my setup, but I think the 30s are still proportional.

TJspeed 06-29-2012 12:23 PM

the most common is an 1.25" body lift. I have a 2" BB 1.25"BL and a 1" MML with 33x10.5 KM2's. As said above i dont think anyone will regret getting a 1"-1.25" body lift. Anything more is just dumb and looks bad and has more issues then what its worth. There are a few people who think ANY body lift is a bad idea when in reality a small body lift does more good then bad on our TJ's. I.E. easier to install a tummy tuck or a aftermarket gas tank skid and correcting drive line issues with a MML.

In the 3rd picture you can see the body lift

the.hatter 06-29-2012 12:46 PM

Thanks for the pics guys, they look great!

I think the 30" tires with 2" of lift look good, but you're right that 31" (or less popular 32"?) would look great.

TJDave 06-29-2012 12:50 PM

I installed a 1" mml to cure some small vibes I had after installing a 2" BB. I read that the 1.25" BL goes great with the mml, and that it will provide the room needed if I ever planned a tummy tuck. So, I threw it on there. The body lift provided some extra clearance for the 32" tires I had at the time, that would rub a little at full flex.

But, as far as looks, I really could not tell the difference.

Years later, when I did the tummy tuck, SYE, and a bunch of other junk, installing a body lift was one thing I did not have to spend money on, or install.

Yep, it was worth it to me. Get It!!!

2" budget boost, 1.25" Body lift/mml, and 32's
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j...owrun-16-1.jpg

Gary2 06-29-2012 01:51 PM

I did one on my last TJ but I am trying hard not to on this one . After I did the last one I spent a lot of time trying to hide it and with all that hangs down under a TJ a BL seems to add to that look from the side . I hated the way the lower part of the grill looked with the mismatched holes showing ,things like that annoy me but thats just me along with the look from behind . It is a very practicale mod if you are going farther like tummy tucks , fuel tank skids that raise the tank , Break off upper shock mount bolts etc... . I just like the overall looks of no BL plus I am staying at 3" lift with this one and I did the MML with out it , fan shroud mod is nothing .

BurlySoldier 06-30-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TXST8tj (Post 2527695)
Here is mine with a 1.25" body lift (1" MML also) and 30" tires.

http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/2e6824ff.jpg


Here is it with the body lift and 3/4" coil spacers f/r with the same 30" tires (how it currently sits).

http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/e6b620fe.jpg


The 1" body lift will be noticeable to YOU, but most people wouldn't know you had it. That is one of the nice things about it.
Even with mine sitting at exactly 2" of lift over stock, most people don't even realize it. I think if I was running a larger than stock-size tire, people would probably see it as being a bit taller.

I think 31s would be perfect with my setup, but I think the 30s are still proportional.

That is a good looking jeep dude. Congrats! That soft top, the navy blue color..awesome.

TXST8tj 07-05-2012 05:09 PM

Thanks! I really like the dark blue and black look.

Rolf 07-06-2012 02:36 AM

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I installed a 1" mml to cure some small vibes I had after installing a 2" BB. I read that the 1.25" BL goes great with the mml, and that it will provide the room needed if I ever planned a tummy tuck. So, I threw it on there. The body lift provided some extra clearance for the 32" tires I had at the time, that would rub a little at full flex.

But, as far as looks, I really could not tell the difference.

Years later, when I did the tummy tuck, SYE, and a bunch of other junk, installing a body lift was one thing I did not have to spend money on, or install.

Yep, it was worth it to me. Get It!!!

2" budget boost, 1.25" Body lift/mml, and 32's
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j...owrun-16-1.jpg

Exactly!

I have a 2" lift (2" BDS coils front and 2" BB rear) with 1.25" BL and 1" MML and also run 32" tyres. The look to me is great but I mainly did the BL + MML to cure some vibes and for a tummy tuck when I do an SYE and CV shaft.

My vote is to go fo it.

Not the best photo but 2" lift, 1.25" BL + 1" MML, 32" tyres

fiteallison 07-06-2012 04:00 AM

its noticable but your have to be a jeeper to know.http://www.ataz.info/s11-1.jpghttp://www.onfish.info/d.jpg

Bobs Jeep 07-06-2012 07:54 AM

I have the 1.25BL + 1MML and no other suspension mods. I notice the difference in height but I doubt many others do. I either need to add a small suspension lift or take out the MML. Without any other suspension mods I have a very noiticable vibration now. If I added a 2" BB I would probably be okay as far as driveshaft angle goes.

Imped 07-06-2012 08:08 AM

Or instead of increasing suspension height, you could use the opportunity to ditch the stock t-case skid. It makes much more sense.......

Bobs Jeep 07-06-2012 11:03 AM

Imped, How would getting rid of the t-case skid plate help? I'm not sure what you mean but I am willing to learn.

Imped 07-06-2012 11:27 AM

I consider a body lift a tool with one purpose and one purpose only--providing clearance to tuck the drivetrain up. The stock skid hangs down over 4" from the frame rail. The stock suspension at stock height works well.....screwing it up with some 2" spacers is far less advantageous than gaining a couple inches in the middle. Need I say more?

But unless the OP uses his jeep off the road, that's probably not much of a concern. Aesthetically, though, it sure makes an impression. Much cleaner and it gives the appearance of being taller due to all of the room under the skid. So for those wanting form + function, it's a nice route to consider. Everyone has mildly lifted Jeeps, do something a bit different (and smarter).

Example
http://i460.photobucket.com/albums/q...w/IMAG0661.jpg

IslandTJ 07-06-2012 11:41 AM

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Imped, How would getting rid of the t-case skid plate help? I'm not sure what you mean but I am willing to learn.

Breakover angle

the.hatter 07-06-2012 09:51 PM

Good stuff guys!

So might do a 2" coil spacer lift now, and then when I need tires get 31s ... or add a body and motor lift at that time and get 32s.

I've got the factory Sahara wheels (2003) - so would I need wheel spacers if I put 32s on with the above lift scenario?

Rolf 07-07-2012 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by the.hatter
Good stuff guys!

So might do a 2" coil spacer lift now, and then when I need tires get 31s ... or add a body and motor lift at that time and get 32s.

I've got the factory Sahara wheels (2003) - so would I need wheel spacers if I put 32s on with the above lift scenario?

Sorry I won't be able to tell you. I suspect if you say stock Sahara wheels you probably have Ecco wheels. Do a search on here for Ecco wheels backspacing. I have some super light Racing Hart wheels that was fitted when I bought it.

Jeeplover1 07-07-2012 02:10 AM

i would highly suggest a 2'' budget boost if you on a budget.. and its super easy todo

Rolf 07-07-2012 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeeplover1
i would highly suggest a 2'' budget boost if you on a budget.. and its super easy todo

I agree. I still run 2" spacers at the rear (with Zone Nitros) and wheel mine pretty hard with great results. I have greatly increased it's offroad ability by fitting some BDS coils and new shocks upfront but even before that with BB I took it offroad plenty and it was pretty damn good compared to the other highly/expensively modified 4x4s.

As far as looks go a 2" BB really does make it look the part.


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