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Saranrap 07-02-2012 11:59 PM

Talk To me about Roof Racks
 
I want to get a rack for my 2012 JK soft top. It will be mainly used to haul two kayaks but will be used later on for camping gear.

My head is spinning with all the options, i was going to order a basket but realized it doesnt do much good without the rack base and doesnt make it so easy to remove the softop :redface:

What type of roof rack would you guys recommend? while im doing this i might as well get one that could double as a light rail. My main concern is one that will let me pull down the top without too much trouble.

Thanks! :D

Cosmic Charlie 07-03-2012 05:22 AM

I do not have one, but I think the Wild Boar rack looks particularly functional. The cargo rack flips up to allow easy fold down of the soft top.

WILD BOAR PRODUCTS: Cargo Rack Systems for your Jeep Wrangler

acepm 07-03-2012 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Cosmic Charlie (Post 2540148)
I do not have one, but I think the Wild Boar rack looks particularly functional. The cargo rack flips up to allow easy fold down of the soft top.

WILD BOAR PRODUCTS: Cargo Rack Systems for your Jeep Wrangler

That's one of the nicer ones that I've seen!

loggerhead1965 07-03-2012 07:11 AM

I'm a new Jeep owner...about 2 months. I quickly bought a Body Armor rack, and the mounting plates for a Yakima/Thule mount. Once I got the kayaks up there on my J-style mounts my kayaks were way high in the air! Too high for my comfort level. Purchasing the 4 Yakima Mako Aero mounts needed for my kayaks would have been about $360. I ended up selling the rack and bought a $400 cheap trailer at Lowe's. I'm much happier with this solution. The Body Armor was a nice rack, allowed me to open my soft top without any obstruction.

I think there are other threads on racks if you search. Good-Luck!

Ageless Stranger 07-03-2012 07:16 AM

The Wilderness roof racks by Garvin are very nice as well, and allow for soft top folding.

3TimeOwner 07-03-2012 10:02 AM

gobijeep.com.... have 1 on a dual top. Love it! 2 of the best things are the expanded metal grate that you can walk on, and the airdam that keeps the wind noise down when the soft top is on. Make sure, if you go this direction, to get the ladder for the back

Flipto 07-03-2012 10:35 AM

I did a lot of looking and settled on the Gobi Recon. It's a little pricey, but ordered before 6/30 included a free air dam, free ladder, and free shipping. It just arrived yesterday, so hopefully it will go on this weekend.

chrisadena 07-03-2012 12:21 PM

I have a 2009 2-door wrangler and after lots of searching I decided to go with the Kongo Cage - just the cage for right now. It is made really well, very durable, but I was not overly happy with what the process is to take off the soft top and it was noisy! There is a wind visor you can purchase and I thought, "oh, come on, it is a soft top jeep, put up with a bit of noise!" but it was so loud that I could hear my radio and my gas mileage went down the tube. So I sold it. The other issue was it fit in my garage, but not with stuff on it. I am now looking at trailers - folding trailers as we live in a condo with a decent sized garage, but not enough space to store a trailer. If you want a rugged, well made unit and you don't care about noise (don't know what it is like with a hard top) or gas mileage, then this might be a good option for you.

Saranrap 07-03-2012 12:36 PM

Thanks Guys! i was prepared to spend 400-600 bucks for one but by your guys recommendations maybe i should wait and save up more for either the gobi or wild bore rack.

The ones right around $500 bucks get awful reviews because of installation and nothing ever fits right so it requires heavy modifications to it. (and i cant weld)

Hmm, what to do.

HAFICON 07-03-2012 12:45 PM

My Dad had this on his TJ was really nice I am looking at one. Easy fold back for top removal and you can still bolt up windshield lights.

Garvin Industries 44074 - Garvin Industries Wilderness Expedition Rack for 07-12 Jeep® Wrangler Unlimited JK 4 Door - Quadratec

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CG3 07-03-2012 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ageless Stranger (Post 2540273)
The Wilderness roof racks by Garvin are very nice as well, and allow for soft top folding.

X2 :thumb:

EAD Offroad 07-04-2012 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Saranrap (Post 2541299)
Thanks Guys! i was prepared to spend 400-600 bucks for one but by your guys recommendations maybe i should wait and save up more for either the gobi or wild bore rack.

The ones right around $500 bucks get awful reviews because of installation and nothing ever fits right so it requires heavy modifications to it. (and i cant weld)

Hmm, what to do.

If you do go with a GOBI send me a PM and we can give you a forum discount Roof Racks.

Lead time is around 6-8 weeks.

keycat02 07-04-2012 09:00 AM

We have the Congo Cage mounted on a two door, and carry a 15' kayak using just the rack itself without crossbars. It certainly seems sturdy enough to carry two kayaks. One drawback was the noise from the rack, but you can eliminate most of it by wrapping the tubing above the windshield with rope in a spiral pattern. Another is getting the kayaks on and off the rack because of the height. We use a step stool and it takes 2 people.

ebuglet 07-04-2012 10:16 AM

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I've been happy with my Gobi rack. So far I've only tried removing the hard top by going up and over the front (and light bar!), which isn't easy, but I intend to take off the ladder and try the rear slide in/out method next time.

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3jarrells 07-04-2012 06:51 PM

I have a canoe, and I am rack shopping too. I love the looks of the Gobi, but it is just too expensive in my opinion. Also a bit overkill for my needs. I don't plan on a RTT so why would I need that weight capacity.

Lots of people like the Kongo Kage I just cant figure out why the bars are spaced like that. Any way there is a middle way. The Garvin Adventure looks to be a step up from the Kongo. Besides I think a flat base with out sides would be easier for boats. The Garvin looks like it may work with the Yakima load warrior which I see on CL all the time.

Adventure Racks - Roof Racks

RalphTomaccio 07-05-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Saranrap (Post 2539821)
I want to get a rack for my 2012 JK soft top. It will be mainly used to haul two kayaks but will be used later on for camping gear.

My head is spinning with all the options, i was going to order a basket but realized it doesnt do much good without the rack base and doesnt make it so easy to remove the softop :redface:

What type of roof rack would you guys recommend? while im doing this i might as well get one that could double as a light rail. My main concern is one that will let me pull down the top without too much trouble.

Thanks! :D

Simple and clean:

jeep « Search Results « Rack Attack Boston’s Blog

Add a Thule Hullavator and it's perfect for kayaks.

Terex 07-05-2012 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RalphTomaccio (Post 2547557)
Simple and clean:

jeep « Search Results « Rack Attack Boston’s Blog

Add a Thule Hullavator and it's perfect for kayaks.

And would result in loads far beyond capacity of hardtop. See various posts on the subject.

Serg5000 07-05-2012 09:03 PM

I would be concerned about being top heavy. Something to consider.

RalphTomaccio 07-05-2012 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Terex (Post 2549530)
And would result in loads far beyond capacity of hardtop. See various posts on the subject.

What have you read the capacity to be? The rack store told me it to be 165 pounds, far beyond what I would ever be putting on the roof. And, their installs are guaranteed. If the roof gets damaged and the load is within their limits, they will replace the top.

Terex 07-06-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RalphTomaccio (Post 2549864)
What have you read the capacity to be? The rack store told me it to be 165 pounds, far beyond what I would ever be putting on the roof. And, their installs are guaranteed. If the roof gets damaged and the load is within their limits, they will replace the top.

Sorry - rack threads I was thinking about were with racks using gutter mounts. The one you referenced with direct mounts through the roof would seem to make sense for a kayak with tie downs on both ends. Again, sorry for my misrememberation. :face palm:

I'm still trying to figure out best combination for hauling stuff on my JKR. Will probably end up with a Gobi or something, but wish they had quick disconnects at mounting points.

RalphTomaccio 07-07-2012 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Terex (Post 2552754)
Sorry - rack threads I was thinking about were with racks using gutter mounts. The one you referenced with direct mounts through the roof would seem to make sense for a kayak with tie downs on both ends. Again, sorry for my misrememberation. :face palm:

I'm still trying to figure out best combination for hauling stuff on my JKR. Will probably end up with a Gobi or something, but wish they had quick disconnects at mounting points.

Terex,
Thanks for your apology, I appreciate it greatly. I agree with you in regards to gutter mounted rack systems. I just don't see how they can be strong enough. I have concerns about through the roof mounting as shown in that link I provided as well but have been assured it's fine as long as you stay within the weight limit.

mflint1513 07-07-2012 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Flipto
I did a lot of looking and settled on the Gobi Recon. It's a little pricey, but ordered before 6/30 included a free air dam, free ladder, and free shipping. It just arrived yesterday, so hopefully it will go on this weekend.

Only issue I have with the Gobi on my JKU is that the wind deflector isn't very sturdy. It moved so much at speeds over 55 that it would somehow hit against my windshield frame causing some chipping and one hell of a racket. I finally just took it off but now the wind noise from the rack is really loud.

The other dislike for this is that it interferes with my soft top when I try to use the Sunrider feature. Not enough clearance between the top and the rack to allow me to use this.

Otherwise, it's pretty handy. I've used it quite a bit to haul paddleboards and kayaks. I'm planning on getting a rooftop tent at some point as well. Oh and being able to stand or sit up there is handy when you've got a bunch of friends at a drive in.

Saranrap 07-07-2012 05:03 PM

you guys are hurting my wallet :D your talking me into getting a Gobi. Im also looking at light rails, but the cost that I would put into the light rail could be wrapped into the Gobi Rack, hence saving money ; right? :D

not to mention they look Bad A$$

EAD Offroad 07-08-2012 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mflint1513 (Post 2555964)
Only issue I have with the Gobi on my JKU is that the wind deflector isn't very sturdy. It moved so much at speeds over 55 that it would somehow hit against my windshield frame causing some chipping and one hell of a racket. I finally just took it off but now the wind noise from the rack is really loud.

Send me an email to alec@eadoffroad.com and I'll reply with an install PDF with some closeup pics of how the deflector is supposed to be installed. I think the instructions with some of the racks were for an older version that sat closer to the windshield.

Flipto 07-09-2012 12:28 PM

Installed my Gobi on my JKU yesterday. The insallation was much easier than I anticipated, especially after reading through the instructions that called for standing the rack on end on a 45" high table in order to bolt it to the rear supports. I discovered by accident tha tmy trash cart was exactly 45" high, so with the help of my son and his girlfriend the whole job was pretty easy. It looks awesome, and I will have toread the above thread becasue at 40 mph that wind deflector makes some noise.

dawhitesJKU 07-09-2012 12:37 PM

Pretty nice. something to add to my jk bucket list.

mflint1513 07-10-2012 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by EAD Offroad

Send me an email to alec@eadoffroad.com and I'll reply with an install PDF with some closeup pics of how the deflector is supposed to be installed. I think the instructions with some of the racks were for an older version that sat closer to the windshield.

The guys at Gobi did the install in Denver back in January. It started hitting my windshield frame as soon as I left Denver. I tried adjusting it when I got to CO Springs but it didn't work. I figured if Gobi installed it they'd know best.

Flipto 07-10-2012 08:34 AM

I adjusted the wind delector last night making sure the center connection was back as far as possible and the two outside ones as far forward as possible. No noise this morning at 45 mph. Haven't had a chance to get any higher speeds yet.

Carver001 03-16-2013 07:31 PM

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Reviving this semi necro thread because I used it for my research. What follows is my experience with a Kongo Cage. I needed a rack for carrying two kayaks. The good: seems very sturdy and over all, well built. The bad...instructions are not well written or illustrated (not sure what the trend is in hiring a writer with not actual experience in building these); need at least three people to get this on if you assemble on the ground (we wound up building it on the Jeep), design is off with a 2013, it will not tip back when installed because of the license plate bracket and, as noted elsewhere, the front mounts are dangerously close to cracking the windshield when moving this around; and grade 5 bolts are used at the frame attachment points but are NOT/NOT stainless. I wound up buying stainless bolts, screws, and washers to replace all the hardware.

Road noise is significant at freeway speeds but not at issue around town. I bought the Kargo Master bars because they came with a 60" bars. Again not stainless bolts.

I may lower this 2" just because it seems high and I don't have a soft top. You don't need much space to move the hard top panels and, as I mentioned, it doesn't tilt back so we won't be taking off the back part of the hard top. at half the price of the next better cage, it's a good deal and will serve for what I need. I'd look more strongly at the Gobi cage if I was doing this over but the price point is right for this one.

Cthurston 06-25-2013 10:09 AM

I installed the Kargo Master cage and 52" x 60" Safari Basket on my 2010 JK. I love this system. It's solidly built and rattle free.

My only complaint isn't so much the added wind noise, but that it's creating such a significant low pressure zone over the soft top that it's almost sucking the top off at higher speeds. I found closing the air vent or having a window open slightly helps.

I think the final solution will be to place some Yakima air flow fairings on the front bars of the basket. That should both help with the wind noise and the low pressure zone.... theoretically :)


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