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Videopelli 07-20-2012 03:46 PM

What should I do with this lift?
 
Apparently, I've broken at least one rule of buying a Jeep - I bought a used, lifted 2003 Wrangler X. After looking on the forums, I found Skyjacker lifts are not well thought of. So should I look at replacing components? If so, which components? Should I redo the entire thing? I'm fairly mechanical (I do know the difference between SAE and metric...) but not very knowledgeable about these sorts of things.:confused: Any help / feedback is appreciated! Pix below...

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GoldenSahara00 07-20-2012 03:49 PM

How tall is it? Did it come with control arms ? I need more info. You should go back to stock or replace control arms. Depends on lift height. New ones would be best. New shocks might be good f yours are shot. You need extended sway links. Possible adjustable track bars. Does it have a tcase drop?

Videopelli 07-20-2012 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 (Post 2605880)
How tall is it? Did it come with control arms ? I need more info. You should go back to stock or replace control arms. Depends on lift height. New ones would be best. New shocks might be good f yours are shot. You need extended sway links. Possible adjustable track bars. Does it have a tcase drop?

I believe the lift is 4" (I measured the coils 16" front, 10" back), but as I said I'm not very knowledgeable... I'm not sure what control arms are - the red Skyjacker arms? I ASSUME it's got a t-case drop - the skid plate is lowered by about an inch.

Sorry I'm not much help! :doh:

ninjaturtle0 07-20-2012 04:56 PM

How does it drive??

I Just picked up my first Wrangler this past Tuesday it was used, 1 owner, 2005 w/ only 57K miles... it already had lift/33 tires etc. :hide:

I'm not a lift nerd but it looks like a 4 inch lift/33x12.5's w MT rims... it drives fine so far.

6InARowMakesItGo 07-20-2012 05:04 PM

its got at least lower rear control arms it looks like. i would think about replacing those with currie and getting a whole set. maybe think about new shocks. as for the rest i'd leave it if it's not broken.

rda616 07-20-2012 05:24 PM

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The shocks are pro comp 3000 series which are crap. The skyjacker control arms are also problematic and can actually damage your mounts.

Solutions replace all 8 control arms with Rokmen, or savvy. Replace the shocks with old man emu, fox, bilstein, or rancho 9000 series. Get rid of the case drop and do a sye with dc drive shaft. Also looks to need longer sway bar links and it still has the factory track bar in the front.

BLK00TJ 07-20-2012 06:22 PM

I agree that you will want to look into replacing the CAs if you wheel it. Savvy, Currie, Rokmen, and Clayton are all top notch brands with JJs that will allow the axle to articulate without putting unnecessary stress on your mounts and bushings. Even stockers are better than what is on there now. At least they can twist. If you don't wheel, there's not much point unless the bushings are already shot.

As far as the rest of the components, I'd hit that in stages unless you have the cash to do it all. If you are okay with the ride quality now just wheel the heck out of it and have fun. Break, upgrade, repeat.

My order of changing it out would be:
  1. Control arms
  2. TC drop removal/SYE CV driveshaft install
  3. Shocks (unless you are happy with the ride quality)
  4. Springs

rda616 07-20-2012 06:32 PM

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At a closer look this looks to be the 2.5" kit they offer. I would just swap in some stock lower control arms and replace the shocks with something like a 5100 bilstein, or old man emu. You could add a 1" body lift and a 1" motor mount lift to get rid of that case drop.

Videopelli 07-21-2012 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ninjaturtle0 (Post 2606069)
How does it drive??

I Just picked up my first Wrangler this past Tuesday it was used, 1 owner, 2005 w/ only 57K miles... it already had lift/33 tires etc. :hide:

I'm not a lift nerd but it looks like a 4 inch lift/33x12.5's w MT rims... it drives fine so far.

The tires are 32X11.5.

The front end seems good - it tracks well, no DW, but the steering seems a little loose. It's also has a Skyjacker steering damper - maybe that needs replacing?

The rear end is probably the worst. It wallows on small bumps - it feels like the tub wants to go one way while the drive train tracks straight. Overall, the ride is harsh - much more than I expected (I wasn't expecting a Lincoln Town Car, but its to the point my seat candy won't ride in it!)

It does need new shocks, at least in the back. I'm looking at the Bilstein's for now.

Thanks for all the feedback! Now its time to learn something about suspension terms...

BLK00TJ 07-21-2012 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Videopelli (Post 2607740)
The front end seems good - it tracks well, no DW, but the steering seems a little loose. It's also has a Skyjacker steering damper - maybe that needs replacing?

Most all stabilizers are the same 50/50 design. Unless yours is shot and leaking it should be fine. I have the same on mine and it rides fine for me.
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Originally Posted by Videopelli (Post 2607740)

The rear end is probably the worst. It wallows on small bumps - it feels like the tub wants to go one way while the drive train tracks straight. Overall, the ride is harsh - much more than I expected (I wasn't expecting a Lincoln Town Car, but its to the point my seat candy won't ride in it!)

Check and make sure your rear trackbar and swaybar is tight. the tub should never feel like it's going to slide off the frame. It could be blown shocks though.
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Originally Posted by Videopelli (Post 2607740)
It does need new shocks, at least in the back. I'm looking at the Bilstein's for now.

In this case you may want to move shocks up to #2 on my list.

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Originally Posted by Videopelli (Post 2607740)
Thanks for all the feedback! Now its time to learn something about suspension terms...


Videopelli 08-21-2012 10:38 PM

Just to tie up this thread... I found out my ProComp shocks were absolutely shot and banging around - that was the noise I heard. Replace the rear with Bilstein 5100's and the ride is 100% better.
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