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cconry21 07-24-2012 01:36 PM

lift kit!?!
 
I have a 2000 jeep wrangler 2.5 liter and im looking to put a lift on it for mainly looks around town and minimum offroad use. I also dont want to shell out too much money. Also this is my daily driver. I was looking at rough countrys new N2 series 4 inchshort arm suspension lift. In the lift kit it co mes with a transfer case drop I was wondering if that was ok? Because people are like no you have to have sye and extended driveshaft but I just want something that is a good overall road experience and no vibes, without shelling out a crapload of money. If I got that I was also gonna get an adjustable frobt track bar and adjustable upper rear control arms. Do I need a adjustable rear track bar as well? Do I need front adjustable upper control arms too? I just dont want any vibrations and nothing breaking. And if anyone has pics before and after 4 inch lift woild be great thanks everyone :)

530ktm 07-24-2012 01:43 PM

If you don't want to spend a lot of money you are sure looking at a lot of mods that require doing so. You are running 31 inch tires according to your profile so what size are you planning on running? You can put in a 2 inch suspension lift along with a small body lift and you will be up over 3 inches with no need for a sye or other mods and if you do the motor mount lift at the same time as the body lift you can avoid the transfer case drop as well. If you plan on running bigger tires you will have to address the gearing and axles too. If you are keeping the 31 inch tires you can just throw in the body lift for a bit of height as well.

530ktm 07-24-2012 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cconry21 (Post 2617489)
I have a 2000 jeep wrangler 2.5 liter and im looking to put a lift on it for mainly looks around town and minimum offroad use. I also dont want to shell out too much money. Also this is my daily driver. I was looking at rough countrys new N2 series 4 inchshort arm suspension lift. In the lift kit it co mes with a transfer case drop I was wondering if that was ok? Because people are like no you have to have sye and extended driveshaft but I just want something that is a good overall road experience and no vibes, without shelling out a crapload of money. If I got that I was also gonna get an adjustable frobt track bar and adjustable upper rear control arms. Do I need a adjustable rear track bar as well? Do I need front adjustable upper control arms too? I just dont want any vibrations and nothing breaking. And if anyone has pics before and after 4 inch lift woild be great thanks everyone :)

You also do not need adjustable control arms with a lift like mentioned.

novajeepfreak 07-24-2012 01:55 PM

I have a 1997 Wrangler 2.5L...run a 4" lift from Rough Country that I installed about, oh, 8 years ago and I still feel every pebble I run over! Do a motor mount lift at the same time and you wont need the transfer case drop....I only very recently, like less then a year ago, put on a SYE and shorter shaft, but never had an issue before that....reason was I lost the rear drive shaft and figured what the heck.....I'm running 33" tires....I have an adjustable front track bar but none of the control arms are adjustable...not needed....

Remember this however, every Jeep is different....I never had vibes with mine with that setup...I know folks that have....

Dextreme 07-24-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cconry21 (Post 2617489)
I have a 2000 jeep wrangler 2.5 liter and im looking to put a lift on it for mainly looks around town and minimum offroad use. I also dont want to shell out too much money. Also this is my daily driver. I was looking at rough countrys new N2 series 4 inchshort arm suspension lift. In the lift kit it co mes with a transfer case drop I was wondering if that was ok? Because people are like no you have to have sye and extended driveshaft but I just want something that is a good overall road experience and no vibes, without shelling out a crapload of money. If I got that I was also gonna get an adjustable frobt track bar and adjustable upper rear control arms. Do I need a adjustable rear track bar as well? Do I need front adjustable upper control arms too? I just dont want any vibrations and nothing breaking. And if anyone has pics before and after 4 inch lift woild be great thanks everyone :)

Many people in your same situation "mainly looks around town and minimum offroad use...without shelling out a crapload of money" will just go with a 2" BB as you will retain most of the stock ride that you have now. Ya install it, get an alignment and be done. With suspension lifts, you may have to shell out money to chase the "next thing" until all is happy.

cconry21 07-24-2012 02:44 PM

My shocks are shot so I have to replace those and the tie rods soon anyways. So I was wondering if I did the 4 inch suspension can I do the transfer case drop and a motor mount lift if that will lessen the pinion angle so the u joints dont break like instead of gettin the sye? Or should I do coil spacers and a body lift with new shocks? And i will eventually get 33 tires but for I have the 31s

novajeepfreak 07-24-2012 03:00 PM

Do the motor mount lift and you wont need the transfer case drop.

GoldenSahara00 07-24-2012 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by novajeepfreak
Do the motor mount lift and you wont need the transfer case drop.

That's no guarantee. A four inch lift needs a huge tcase drop or a sye. Most 3 inch lifts need a tcase drop.

blueskiesbill 07-24-2012 03:24 PM

I did the zone combo (3" susp and 1.25 BL with a MML) and I know some folks that did the same lift or something similar but nicer and they did not need to do a TC drop, and one of them did a 1/2" drop. I had originally done the 1/2" drop but had vibes so I ended up putting a full inch drop and it rides like a charm now. As one poster had said all jeeps are different and it's true. Just do ur lift and see what else ur money pit needs. :-)

cconry21 07-24-2012 05:40 PM

Yea this rough country lift comes with a huge transfer case drop. Its like a 3 inch bar they bolt in between the skid plate.

cconry21 07-25-2012 07:49 AM

And I feel like I should get adjustable rear upper control arms to get the right pinion angle

geiman 07-25-2012 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cconry21 (Post 2618169)
Yea this rough country lift comes with a huge transfer case drop. Its like a 3 inch bar they bolt in between the skid plate.

Just keep in mind that you're doing this for looks, and by installing the t-case drop you'll be making your Jeep look absolutely hideous. If you're only going for looks, I'd take the suggestion of going smaller.

swington 07-25-2012 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cconry21
Yea this rough country lift comes with a huge transfer case drop. Its like a 3 inch bar they bolt in between the skid plate.

Are u sure its not a 1" drop? I ordered the lift about a month ago and mine is only 1". I finally got all the suspension in and still lack Puttin that transfer case drop in...

cconry21 07-25-2012 04:52 PM

It looked like a pretty big spacer in between the factory skid plate. But should I double up and do the transfer case drop and a mml? I will eventually do a tuck when I have the money.

rda616 07-25-2012 06:17 PM

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The answer to your problem was already mentioned .
Do a 2" suspension lift and a 1.25" body lift with a 1" motor mount lift.


Also you don't need upper adjustable arms unless you are doing a sye and dc drive shaft . Trying to adjusting your pinion angle using just upper adjustable control arms with a slip shaft drive shaft is a nono and will cause vibration not fix it. If you go look under your jeep you will see that the rear drive shaft isn't parallel with the pinion . With a dc drive shaft it needs to be.

Don't waist your money on a junk rough country 4" lift . Buy a quality 2" spring and shock , add a rear track bar bracket, extended sway bar links , bump stop extensions, 1.25" body lift and the 1" motor mount lift . This will give room for 33" tires without the need for a case drop , or other costly items.

brendend 07-25-2012 06:21 PM

^ this

Or take your time and buy components from different company's to get the best lift that will suit you. If you hunt Craigslist you will probably save a lot of money and get a lot better lift the rc

cconry21 07-25-2012 08:19 PM

Is it easy to install a body lift? Because it looks like it would be harder than a suspension lift

TJspeed 07-25-2012 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cconry21
Is it easy to install a body lift? Because it looks like it would be harder than a suspension lift

It's easier. YouTube Jeep body lift.

geiman 07-26-2012 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cconry21 (Post 2621992)
Is it easy to install a body lift? Because it looks like it would be harder than a suspension lift

Yes; I installed the MML and BL on my Jeep in less than an hour along with an oil change and a few other things.

cconry21 07-26-2012 10:35 AM

Should I lower control arms with the 2.5 inch suspension with the 1.25 body lift?

TJspeed 07-26-2012 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cconry21
Should I lower control arms with the 2.5 inch suspension with the 1.25 body lift?

Do what said above and get a 1" MML "Motor Mount Lift". Lower the control arms? When you lift it they will move with the lift.

Imped 07-26-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TJspeed (Post 2623960)
When you lift it they will move with the frame.

:thumb:

Derp 07-26-2012 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by novajeepfreak
I have a 1997 Wrangler 2.5L...run a 4" lift from Rough Country that I installed about, oh, 8 years ago and I still feel every pebble I run over! Do a motor mount lift at the same time and you wont need the transfer case drop....I only very recently, like less then a year ago, put on a SYE and shorter shaft, but never had an issue before that....reason was I lost the rear drive shaft and figured what the heck.....I'm running 33" tires....I have an adjustable front track bar but none of the control arms are adjustable...not needed....

Remember this however, every Jeep is different....I never had vibes with mine with that setup...I know folks that have....

Wouldn't it be an sye and a longer cv driveshaft?

Imped 07-26-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Derp (Post 2624339)
Wouldn't it be an sye and a longer cv driveshaft?

Yes.

cconry21 07-26-2012 04:44 PM

I ment should I get heavier duty lower control arms?

Derp 07-26-2012 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cconry21
I ment should I get heavier duty lower control arms?

I would

cconry21 07-29-2012 12:03 AM

What should I do to get proper alignment If I get the rough country 3.25 inch body lift? Ill have the stock control arms or should invest in some adjustable LCA's do I need uppers too?

Derp 07-29-2012 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cconry21
What should I do to get proper alignment If I get the rough country 3.25 inch body lift? Ill have the stock control arms or should invest in some adjustable LCA's do I need uppers too?

Save up and eventaully get all 8 adjustable.

rda616 07-29-2012 04:22 AM

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What should I do to get proper alignment If I get the rough country 3.25 inch body lift? Ill have the stock control arms or should invest in some adjustable LCA's do I need uppers too?

You mean 3.25" suspension lift . Not a 3.25" body lift. The 3.25" suspension lift will raise the jeep and in doing so will pull the axles closer together. This means rear the tires move closer to the front side of the rear wheel well and cause an uneven gap that looks ugly. The same goes for the front with the axle being pulled back. So yeah, with any suspension lift you will see this effect and the higher you go the more pronounced it will be with a fixed length factory arm.

2.5" is about where I believe the difference is still bearable and anything over that really needs adjustable to reposition the axles. This is from an esthetic point of view. From a performance point you can't beat an adjustable control arm with Johnny joints at both ends, but for a daily driver that sees mild to moderate offroading the stock arms will work .

Frshmt 07-29-2012 07:43 AM

It's been said a couple times but you're not listening, so let me dedicate the next post to the best advice you've received in this thread...


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