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ricci427 04-17-2008 12:09 PM

Subwoofer speaker in centre console - replacement
 
Hi all,

New member here, had my jeep for about 3 yrs now, its a 2003 sahara.
Anyway, a while ago I noticed after changing my stereo head unti that the sub speaker in the center console is blown. I went to circuit city to see about a replacement, but he said because it is a free air speaker, its not something they carry. Then I called my dealer, jeep not crack..lol...nd they wanted a whopping $240.00 for the one speaker.

Has anyone else ever had to replace this speaker, and if so where did you go to buy it.

Thanks in advance.

Damien

Triple88a 04-17-2008 12:18 PM

Most people that get to the point of replacing the stock sub usually end up doing a whole new system. It ends up costing about the same price as a factory sub and its a bit louder.
The stock sub has 4 connectors or something like that so this makes the factory one the only replacement speaker. And since the amp is made for that too.. you have to get an amp too.

Anyhow you said you noticed it was blown after changing your stereo head unit... did it stop working or what?

Also the stock wrangler sub is not free air, he must have thought it went in a dash or something without being in a box but yet again, its because circuit city knows wranglers :rolleyes:

ricci427 04-17-2008 12:26 PM

After changing the head unit, it worked, still does, but its blown, maybe vibratingis a better description, to the point of making the whole thing sound terrible, right now i have any bass turned way down just to make the system bearable.

I know what you mean about circuit city..lol...the reason he thought it was free air, was because he noticed the hole in the center console, the hole where the lock goes. And from that he figured it must be free air, but i guess that doesnt matter if the whole speaker is totally different with four connectors.

So I guess its a choice of buying the direct replacement, from Jeep for the 240 bucks, or changing both the amp and the speaker for about the same cost?

Triple88a 04-17-2008 12:31 PM

most people seem to get about the same in the end however THEN you have an after market amp and you have much bigger choice of subs or amps. Ebay is also a very good thing to look at for savings. you can get a sub for 80 bucks and another amp for 160.. there goes the "same" cost and you will have a system much stronger. I say if it blew, why replace it with something that will most likely blow again.

Let say you get a sub now from jeep for 240 and it blows in a month or two on accident. Then what? another 240?

I have a kicker amp with a 12" L7 kicker sub. The whole thing ended up costing me like 320 bucks and its loud enough to kick out the vents on my hard top. Its not that i listen to it that loud but its not a bad thing to have something that sounds good.

ricci427 04-17-2008 12:36 PM

yeah, that makes sense, I think it blew because the new head unit had too big an output for it anyway.
Is it easy enough to find subs that will still go in the centre console, I dont really want to have a box in the trunk, as they are small enough as is, and i need the space back there.

TXST8tj 04-17-2008 02:21 PM

just swap a JL6w0 in place of the stock sub in the stock plastic enclosure. then get the smallest powered amp you can find to run to the sub, and there ya go. after that, you get into building a new enclosure or getting something to fit behind the rear seat.
either way, you will have to get an amp kit to wire that sub in, but it will be tons better than the stock sub...even still in the stock enclosure.

bellj 06-12-2008 01:49 AM

Txst8tj is right. There are a couple of good 6" subs out there. Kicker makes one and so does JL audio. I prefer JL, but it will cost more. You should be able to connect it to your amp. I've never had a factory sub in a wrangler, but the only reason I can conceive of them using 4 wires is for a dual voicecoil subwoofer, which would be a really weird thing for them to do. I would buy a JL and do some experimenting with those wires (at low volume of course) or take it to a pro. You can get a cheap 2 channel amp if you need to. PS I worked for Circuit City doing install and I worked with some smart guys (I have a bachelors degree by the way). You just found a lazy guy.

Triple88a 06-12-2008 01:29 PM

i think its worth spending 20-30 bucks more on something better that you will listen to every single day then getting something cheap and then regretting it every time you drive the jeep.

chaser 11-21-2008 12:29 PM

Bazzoka tube replacement speakers work well for 30 bucks

Levinoss 11-21-2008 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple88a (Post 237007)
i think its worth spending 20-30 bucks more on something better that you will listen to every single day then getting something cheap and then regretting it every time you drive the jeep.

If you are talking about bazooka tubes they are actually pretty solid subs for their price.

charliefoxtrot 11-21-2008 12:44 PM

investing in the sound system i got was worth every penny. x2 on triple 88

Levinoss 11-21-2008 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by charliefoxtrot (Post 285193)
investing in the sound system i got was worth every penny. x2 on triple 88

Not every person can invest into a sound system that makes your brains ooze out your ears when you drive by. =P

If the OP can afford a expensive system go ahead and get a solid one.

on a side note remember the more expensive to buy the more expensive to replace if stolen. Don't advertise you have a nice system by thumping your way through the neighborhoods. It's not like a wrangler is a fort Knox of Vehicles.

charliefoxtrot 11-21-2008 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Levinoss (Post 285197)
Not every person can invest into a sound system that makes your brains ooze out your ears when you drive by. =P

If the OP can afford a expensive system go ahead and get a solid one.

on a side note remember the more expensive to buy the more expensive to replace if stolen. Don't advertise you have a nice system by thumping your way through the neighborhoods. It's not like a wrangler is a fort Knox of Vehicles.

true, but even a small upgrade over the Wrangler stock system is a huge step up.

and my brains ooze real good:punk::punk::punk:

jp'rs_peep'rs 11-22-2008 03:16 AM

Actually,
Would it not be possible/plausible too just replace the speaker with one of the ones listed above and keep the factory stuff (i.e. amp, enclosure....)? I'm pretty sure there r other vendors who supply dual voice coil 6"...

C.

KellyK 11-22-2008 03:24 AM

upgrading your dash and sound bar speakers does alot. and installing a metal plate that runs over the back will secure an amp and keep it out of sight. As for the sub?... i saw someone install a box inside the bottom of thier back seat... you couldnt see it nor get to it since there is a plate over the back and you cant reach the latch to the back seat.

Be smart about where and when you turn your music up...
around a bunch of teenagers that live near you... NO NO...
driving down the street ... sure give granny a update on whats good...

moose83 11-22-2008 03:42 AM

hey guys, my '04 factory sub blew also when i upgraded my head unit. i have 2 10" kicker comp subs in a box in the rear and 800 watts pushing it. i noticed that merely unplugging the stock sub gave the extra power to the four interior speakers and they perform much better and in their proper range now beacause the stock sub isnt draining the power, or asking for a lower frequency while attached to the soundbar speakers. now if the OP hasnt solved this in 8 months since first post, lol, then i suggest that he/she take the 10 minutes to pull apart the center console, disconnect the "basically irreplaceable, dual voice coil(yes, it is weird of jeep), and spend WELL under $100 on a single unit. a few of the jeepers in my crew have picked up a small setup that is a 10" sub, a 150 watt amp enclosed all in one littkle package about the size of a wide shoebox. I myself listen to quite a bit of rap myself and i will tell you that it makes a lot of nice sound for its size! sounds great with rap, death metal, dance, rock....a very good all around setup, all for a more then reasonable price.

KellyK 11-22-2008 11:31 AM

got a link or a pic?

Triple88a 11-22-2008 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by moose83 (Post 285336)
i noticed that merely unplugging the stock sub gave the extra power to the four interior speakers and they perform much better and in their proper range now [because] the stock sub isnt draining the power, or asking for a lower frequency while attached to the [sound bar] speakers.

sounds like you have something connected wrong. that should not happen.

how did you wire it up.

Clay125 02-26-2010 02:40 PM

I would think there would be more info on this subject! I'm looking to replace mine now...

APPSTATEwrangler 02-27-2010 01:03 AM

here ya go
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f40/rep...fer-43529.html

mechanic01 03-04-2010 09:34 PM

Subwoofer speaker in centre console - replacement
 
I have a 2006 rubicon unlimited.. my sub went with in a year.. I had it replaced. and it went again. and so did the two on my roll bar.. I am replacing all the speakers. But I plan on replacing with ones that will fin in same places and not adding a box or two. I did add a set of bose 251 and mounted in back. Amazing sound btw.. I would like to install a 10" Eclipse SW8010 in the center console. Think it will fit?

Handyandy 03-07-2010 10:59 PM

I used the e3.6 from elemental designs in the factory enclosure. You do have to mod the box but it sounds great. It is a dual voice coil speaker that is rated at 2 ohms per coil like the factory sub.

moneymaker79 04-10-2010 11:01 AM

Kicker CVT65 fits and works great in 2001 Wrangler
 
Hi all - just replaced the crappy subwoofer that came in the center console of the Wrangler with the kicker CVT65. I disconnected the old speaker, and put wire nuts on the red and black wires, the electrical tape to keep secure. Brown and grey wires to the positive and negative terminals.

The speaker was a bit too deep for the enclosure but I found a great workaround. The original speaker comes with a screen with a plastic ring on it. I ripped the screen off, then used Liquid Nails (silicone) to seal the ring around the enclosure, giving me about 1/2 to 3/4" of extra depth. Then I put the speaker in, and instead of screwing the speaker to the enclosure, I put another thick ring of Liquid Nails around the whole speaker, and let dry. The speaker enclosure slid right back into the center console housing, and all I had to do was keep a little pressure on the two pieces to get the screw holes to line up. I fired up the stereo (stock) and it sounds GREAT. No distortion, plenty of thump (for me anyway) and really restores the sound.

No extra amp purchase, no Dremeling out plastic, etc - couldn't have asked for an easier time!

hawk_sixsix 04-23-2010 09:29 PM

Any chance a Kicker 8" sub could've been made to fit with minor mods?

Fish 05-06-2010 08:17 PM

Blown subwoofer replacement
 
In the process of replacing a blown subwoofer in the center console. [currently being shipped] Purchased a Kicker CVT654 [6.5", shallow mount]. According to the speaker's specifications for depth and width, it should fit perfectly in the factory enclosure. In my search for wiring instructions and amplifier specs, I ran over this thread regarding this repair. I intend to follow the wiring instructions listed above from moneymaker79. Hopefully, my repair will be as easy as his! More later. . .

Fish 05-11-2010 06:45 PM

Update. The Kicker CompVT speaker fit perfectly w/ no modifications necessary to the factory enclosure [besides drilling the new mounting holes for the speaker]. As a note, there were eight screws required to mount the new speaker. I reused the four screws from the factory speaker and found the remaining screws in my toolbox. [Lucky!] The wiring instructions from the above post didn't work for my specific speaker, but it contained useful information concerning the positive and negative wires. The winning combination was wiring the brown/red [positive] together and the black/gray [negative] together and attaching them to their respective posts. Thanks for the confidence to complete this repair!

Zamboni 07-28-2010 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 621659)
Update. The Kicker CompVT speaker fit perfectly w/ no modifications necessary to the factory enclosure [besides drilling the new mounting holes for the speaker]. As a note, there were eight screws required to mount the new speaker. I reused the four screws from the factory speaker and found the remaining screws in my toolbox. [Lucky!] The wiring instructions from the above post didn't work for my specific speaker, but it contained useful information concerning the positive and negative wires. The winning combination was wiring the brown/red [positive] together and the black/gray [negative] together and attaching them to their respective posts. Thanks for the confidence to complete this repair!

Fish...how does the Kicker CVT654 sound? I now have the same problem with my factory sub and am in the market for a replacement. I've gone ahead and disconnected the wiring harness to the sub for now, so I don't get the distortion. I'm not much into modifying anything and your post sounds as if, other than a couple new screws, it's a perfect fit.

Chizzomania 08-13-2010 11:39 AM

Just finished the install on the 08CVT654 in the center console of my 2006 Wrangler. Took about 2 hours. Real simple, as described above with some minor exceptions. The wiring tip (Brown to red, black to grey) worked.

The sub does NOT fit into the plastic casing without mod. I think the spacer is the better way to go. I made one out of 3/4" hardwood plywood, cut circular with a router & circle cutting jig. The spacer give you a good, solid place to screw the new sub into, and gives you the necessary clearance in the back of the box. The sub will protrude from the box a little, but there is more than enough give in the armrest to accommodate this. You can use the existing screws holes in the box to attach the spacer if you countersink the holes for the mounting screws, and I also used a bead of liquid nails around the spacer to provide additional stability.

I also got rid of the compression rings that held the mounting brackets to the armrest. The both broke when I took them off anyways. I drilled out the posts and now the brackets are attached with 1/4-20 x 3/4" bolts with nylon lockwasher on the underside. The cupholder inserts cover up the top of the bolts, so out of sight, out of mind. Next time I need to poke around in there, it will be much easier to remove the sub and amp with bolts holding them in.

The Kicker unit sounds a little better than the factory infinity unit. I liked the sound out of the factory sub. I did not like the fact that it blew out twice in the 3 months I have owned the Jeep. I have been told the Kicker unit will handle anything I the RBQ factory head and amp can throw at it, we'll see over time.

If I were to do this job again with more time, I'd probably build a small custom box out of 3/4" or 1" hardwood plywood to mount the sub and amp into. There is plenty of room in the armrest to do this, and I think the sound quality would improve and there would be less annoying vibration of all the thin plastic the factory sub is mounted into. If you save the mounting brackets, they can be re-used and you can have a bit of custom sound without sacrificing the space saving nature of the factory design.

Beware when buying the Kicker units online - I've been told that Kicker will only honor their warranties if you buy from authorized dealers, so a great price now may come at a higher expense down the road if you run into problems. I got my local dealer to match the price I found online anyways, so it didn't matter.

Fish 08-13-2010 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zamboni (Post 704621)
Fish...how does the Kicker CVT654 sound? I now have the same problem with my factory sub and am in the market for a replacement. I've gone ahead and disconnected the wiring harness to the sub for now, so I don't get the distortion. I'm not much into modifying anything and your post sounds as if, other than a couple new screws, it's a perfect fit.

I own a 2003 Jeep Wrangler Sahara. I am not exactly mechanically inclined- rather mechanically curious. With a few simple tools, this replacement is completely manageable, especially when the dealership is charging over $200. As for the sound, I would rate it as slightly better. I wasn't really interested in upgrading my sound system, rather replacing damaged pieces. I spent more time searching for a replacment speaker that fit inside the existing sub box than I did actually switching it out. The extra homework paid off. Good luck with your speaker replacement.

Sekstrand3 08-16-2010 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple88a (Post 219326)
most people seem to get about the same in the end however THEN you have an after market amp and you have much bigger choice of subs or amps. Ebay is also a very good thing to look at for savings. you can get a sub for 80 bucks and another amp for 160.. there goes the "same" cost and you will have a system much stronger. I say if it blew, why replace it with something that will most likely blow again.

Let say you get a sub now from jeep for 240 and it blows in a month or two on accident. Then what? another 240?

I have a kicker amp with a 12" L7 kicker sub. The whole thing ended up costing me like 320 bucks and its loud enough to kick out the vents on my hard top. Its not that i listen to it that loud but its not a bad thing to have something that sounds good.

Are the kickers pretty good? I was going to go alpine but I haven't decided yet...

also where did you put the 12" sub???? I don't really have any idea where one would fit.


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