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vtjohn 08-06-2012 11:07 PM

Mods to avoid, and why!
 
It's still early in my jeep ownership career, and I want to do a lot of things, but I already have made a few mistakes (including not holding out for an LJ). Help a Jeeper or two save some money & heartache with your worst Mod!

I'll start with a minor one-- mirror relocation brackets. Couldn't get the bolts off, then realized it it wasn't very functional when I did(and hated the look). Ended up using door hinge mirrors by Defiant Systems for $50 and love 'em when doorless. Also have a cheap 2.5" lift I haven't installed yet wondering if I shouldn't wait and spend more later...

What's your hated mod? Why?

jasongind 08-06-2012 11:12 PM

Haven't made any. Not because I know everything but because I research the hell out of anything I before I do it. Research will be your key to not wasting money & getting your rig the way you want it in the most efficient manner possible.

s14sh3r 08-06-2012 11:21 PM

I painted my dash and door panels using Duplicolor vinyl and fabric paint. I've already had to touch it up 3 times and it already needs it again. I'm afraid it's going to be a huge PITA to get it all off and either leave it the factory color or repaint using Krylon Fusion :facepalm:

Redsand 08-06-2012 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by s14sh3r (Post 2660076)
I painted my dash and door panels using Duplicolor vinyl and fabric paint. I've already had to touch it up 3 times and it already needs it again. I'm afraid it's going to be a huge PITA to get it all off and either leave it the factory color or repaint using Krylon Fusion :facepalm:

did you sand or scuff it up first? paint will not stick if you dont

BLK00TJ 08-07-2012 01:13 AM

Stuff new owners get sucked into:
  • BL > 1.25"
  • CAI and/or snorkels
  • Fancy cast iron diff plates (get welded plate)
  • Neoprene seat covers (hello swamp butt)
  • Putting stickers of every part you've ever installed on the fenders (I don't advertise for stuff I paid for)
  • Tube bumpers (I admit I wanted these when I first got my Jeep. Thank goodness I was broke from the payments)
  • Stupid loud exhaust systems (Annoying on trails)

Rolf 08-07-2012 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BLK00TJ (Post 2660291)
Stuff new owners get sucked into:
  • BL > 1.25"
  • CAI and/or snorkels
  • Fancy cast iron diff plates (get welded plate)
  • Neoprene seat covers (hello swamp butt)
  • Putting stickers of every part you've ever installed on the fenders (I don't advertise for stuff I paid for)
  • Tube bumpers (I admit I wanted these when I first got my Jeep. Thank goodness I was broke from the payments)
  • Stupid loud exhaust systems (Annoying on trails)


Not all tube bumper are created equal though. I have a SERIOUS one that will withstand some decent abuse.

s14sh3r 08-07-2012 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Redsand (Post 2660099)
did you sand or scuff it up first? paint will not stick if you dont

I scuffed it up with a Scotch Brite pad, then wiped it down with acetone and let it dry before painting.

Redsand 08-07-2012 08:46 AM

May need an adhesion promoter, or actual paint for plastic ,

Dozer13JK 08-07-2012 08:55 AM

I'd say stay away from aftermarket exhaust systems. I mean seriously, it's a 6 cylinder Jeep. I can understand if you have true duals on an old 8 cylinder CJ but not todays age Jeeps. I guess that's "cool" if you are 18. X2 on stickers as BLK00TJ said. A decal here and there looks fine but IMO looks cheap and tacky when you have them all over the place. Here's another mod to avoid if you DON'T off-road... Mud terrain tires!

iluvshoes 08-07-2012 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLK00TJ (Post 2660291)
Stuff new owners get sucked into:
  • BL > 1.25"
  • CAI and/or snorkels
  • Fancy cast iron diff plates (get welded plate)
  • Neoprene seat covers (hello swamp butt)
  • Putting stickers of every part you've ever installed on the fenders (I don't advertise for stuff I paid for)
  • Tube bumpers (I admit I wanted these when I first got my Jeep. Thank goodness I was broke from the payments)
  • Stupid loud exhaust systems (Annoying on trails)

Ok, don't laugh...What is a "BL > 1.25""?

snowbrd84 08-07-2012 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by iluvshoes (Post 2660908)
Ok, don't laugh...What is a "BL > 1.25""?

body lift

Redsand 08-07-2012 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iluvshoes

Ok, don't laugh...What is a "BL > 1.25""?

A body lift greater than 1.25 inches

vtjohn 08-07-2012 09:06 AM

BL> 1.25" means don't do a body lift over 1.25" (usually too much of a gap shows between body & frame).

These are good suggestions-- really looking for PERSONAL experience of a Mod you wished you hadn't done and WHY! This thread is not meant to bash Mods you don't like to see on other jeeps as they may love their Mods!

iluvshoes 08-07-2012 09:11 AM

Thanks everyone!

kylekae 08-07-2012 09:19 AM

Also save your money and hold out to buy quality first. Don't buy something because its cheap. Wait till you have the money to get the more expensive higher quality piece. I did this with my smittybilt neft bars. They are OK. So now I have sold them and lost 100 bucks and am waiting to buy some quality ones.

lwszabo 08-07-2012 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kylekae
Also save your money and hold out to buy quality first. Don't buy something because its cheap. Wait till you have the money to get the more expensive higher quality piece. I did this with my smittybilt neft bars. They are OK. So now I have sold them and lost 100 bucks and am waiting to buy some quality ones.

That's great advise!

BamaRolln 08-07-2012 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by vtjohn (Post 2660932)
really looking for PERSONAL experience of a Mod you wished you hadn't done and WHY!

The Bestop Instatrunk. It cost me about $150. It sounded like a really good idea at the time. And to be fair it is a very good way to add lockable storage to your Jeep. Once the tailgate is locked there is no way to get into that instatrunk without a torch or a key.

The problem is that it cuts down on the trunk storage area. Stuff either has to go inside it or on top of it. I like to throw all the baseball stuff behind the back seat to go to the park and none of it would fit back there with the instatrunk in place so I ended up taking it out. Now it is sitting on the floor of my garage next to where I park the jeep. I'm holding on to it rather than selling it because I could easily put it back in at any time if I needed a secure storage area for any reason.

What I would like to see is a secure trunk storage area that has a hinged lid so that if I wanted to put something bigger back there and not lock it up I could just open the lid rather than having to remove the entire instatrunk. Is there such a thing out there?

iluvshoes 08-07-2012 09:39 AM

I haven't done alot of mods to my Jeep and really thanks to this forum, I haven't had any mods I don't like. And I know I own a JK and not a TJ (tho the BF ownes one so it's ok...right?...lol) but this thread is a good one for everyone to read and comment on. The only thing I wish I had that I don't is different gears but that isn't a mod really.

johnpmcelroy 08-07-2012 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by s14sh3r (Post 2660076)
I painted my dash and door panels using Duplicolor vinyl and fabric paint. I've already had to touch it up 3 times and it already needs it again. I'm afraid it's going to be a huge PITA to get it all off and either leave it the factory color or repaint using Krylon Fusion :facepalm:

I really dont think you can paint vinyl or SOME plastics. Some are meant to resist oils and paints such as motorcycle fenders etc.... I would take your panels off and take them to a Upholstery Shop and get there opinion. And when I say Upholstery Shop, I mean, a place where they repair Boat, RV Car Vinyl and upholstery. Depending on the year, its either plastic, and newer vehicles it would be called Vinyl. Big diffence!!

iluvshoes 08-07-2012 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaRolln (Post 2661037)
The Bestop Instatrunk. It cost me about $150. It sounded like a really good idea at the time. And to be fair it is a very good way to add lockable storage to your Jeep. Once the tailgate is locked there is no way to get into that instatrunk without a torch or a key.

The problem is that it cuts down on the trunk storage area. Stuff either has to go inside it or on top of it. I like to throw all the baseball stuff behind the back seat to go to the park and none of it would fit back there with the instatrunk in place so I ended up taking it out. Now it is sitting on the floor of my garage next to where I park the jeep. I'm holding on to it rather than selling it because I could easily put it back in at any time if I needed a secure storage area for any reason.

What I would like to see is a secure trunk storage area that has a hinged lid so that if I wanted to put something bigger back there and not lock it up I could just open the lid rather than having to remove the entire instatrunk. Is there such a thing out there?

I don't know but what about making your own? Many members here have made lid trunks out of wood or metal. Just a thought.

hagler123 08-07-2012 09:45 AM

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When I first got my Jeep about a year ago a started adding chrome stuff to it like mirrors door handles gas cap side steps and other small things and I got to where I didn't like it so I've been changing some of it.!

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siafu 08-07-2012 09:46 AM

I have many of the "mods" listed above to avoid...lol

The PO added the custom banks exhaust--which I hate, the cold air intake--which I hate, the stickers-- removed most of them, and I removed the factory locking trunk box.

Rubicondon53 08-07-2012 10:10 AM

Nice list,,, I'm glad I'm not the only one that can't stand loud cat backs.. I like my stainless steel OME exhaust, and when the time comes will replace it with OME. Another mod to avoid is that cheap lift kit.. Posts on this forum about problems with lift kits outnumber just about anything else.. Do you really need that 4" lift? Remember, your only gaining an extra 2"s over a good 2" lift, and to do it right costs about a thousand dollars an inch... A 2" lift, 1" body lift, and a tummy tuck running 33s will go just about anywhere 4"s and 35s will go. ( serious rock krawling aside ) ;). Just my 2cents !! ;)

ajorosa 08-07-2012 10:13 AM

After market items rust quickly also. Sky jacker shocks, rusted. Banks exhaust , rusted. Delta x beam headlights, rusting inside. Bast top side steps , rusted and in trash .

vtjohn 08-07-2012 10:15 AM

That's now two comments about the locking Instatrunk... interesting, I ws thinking about getting one!

97wrangler-242 08-07-2012 10:26 AM

The rugged ridge slip yoke eliminators rear out put seal WILL leak. Spend the extra 40$ for an advanced adaptors or jb conversions sye.

Throttle body spacers don't add a single horse power or any mpgs....

MississippiDirtTJ 08-07-2012 01:33 PM

Pocket flares. They'll draw you in with their rugged look and extra coverage then steal all of your tire clearance. Learned that one the hard way :banghead:

jaresco91 08-07-2012 01:44 PM

Bought my jeep with a 2inch BL skyjacker, handles great on the trails and isnt wobbly at all, but definitely looking to upgrade to a 4 inch soon. The 2 inch just isn't enough for trying to get over big rocks and what not, just not enough clearance for me.

2cents!

ipleadda2nd 08-07-2012 01:49 PM

TeraFlex quick discos. I think JKS has a better design and the clips will stay in place better.

TeraFlex front adjustable track bar with 3" of lift. I have to add to much bumpstop to avoid it hitting my factory diff cover. The only adjustable track bars that don't do this, as much, are the Currie/JKS.

s14sh3r 08-07-2012 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Redsand (Post 2660877)
May need an adhesion promoter, or actual paint for plastic ,

Yup. That's where the Fusion comes in. Hopefully Acetone and a little elbow grease will get me a clean slate to work with.


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