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LilYeller 08-08-2012 06:38 AM

Rules of the Offroad
 
Just wondering if anyone would like to share some basic rules for off roading. Assume we know nothing, but dont be patronizing. The goal is to get a sticky on this if we get good enough responses. Thanks for sharing!

jebby 08-08-2012 12:25 PM

DONT GO ALONE
make sure u have proper recovery gear
dont leave a mess
tread lightly
stay legal

jeff_in_rc 08-08-2012 12:31 PM

X2 on the don't go alone
take tools, don't rely on others and be self sufficient
listen to help when offered, don't be stubborn
take a tire repair kit, you never know
ALWAYS take food and water
enjoy yourself and have fun

iluvshoes 08-08-2012 12:38 PM

I am a person who has NEVER been off roading. And as of right now, I don't plan on it but I have questions. And please remember...this is my first Jeep and I am pretty much Jeep/off-roading stupid...thanks!
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff_in_rc (Post 2665195)
X2 on the don't go alone
take tools, don't rely on others and be self sufficient...what if you don't have tools and what kind of tools?
listen to help when offered, don't be stubborn
take a tire repair kit, you never know...my spare tires isn't good enough?
ALWAYS take food and water
enjoy yourself and have fun

Quote:

Originally Posted by jebby (Post 2665176)
DONT GO ALONE
make sure u have proper recovery gear...what is recovery gear other than a winch?
dont leave a mess...do you mean littering?
tread lightly...explain please
stay legal...explain this one too


jeff_in_rc 08-08-2012 12:53 PM

My 0.02
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iluvshoes (Post 2665213)
I am a person who has NEVER been off roading. And as of right now, I don't plan on it but I have questions. And please remember...this is my first Jeep and I am pretty much Jeep/off-roading stupid...thanks!

Hey no problems there, we all have to learn sometime. Hell I've only had my Jeep since March so I am still a newbie! And it's my first Jeep ever. :dance:

Originally Posted by jeff_in_rc http://cdn.wranglerforum.com//images...s/viewpost.gif
X2 on the don't go alone
take tools, don't rely on others and be self sufficient...what if you don't have tools and what kind of tools?
listen to help when offered, don't be stubborn
take a tire repair kit, you never know...my spare tires isn't good enough?
ALWAYS take food and water
enjoy yourself and have fun


As far as tools go make sure you have what you need to change a tire, fix a loose hose, and tape something back together. So a small tool box with a set of wrenches, some screwdrivers, some wire and some duct tape.

Your spare will be good enough as long as you don't pickup another nail etc. A tire repair kit with plugs and a small air compressor will get you going again. I have a SureFlow compressor and it works great.

I hope this helps iluvshoes. :thumb:

iluvshoes 08-08-2012 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff_in_rc (Post 2665250)
Hey no problems there, we all have to learn sometime. Hell I've only had my Jeep since March so I am still a newbie! And it's my first Jeep ever. :dance:

Originally Posted by jeff_in_rc http://cdn.wranglerforum.com//images...s/viewpost.gif
X2 on the don't go alone
take tools, don't rely on others and be self sufficient...what if you don't have tools and what kind of tools?
listen to help when offered, don't be stubborn
take a tire repair kit, you never know...my spare tires isn't good enough?
ALWAYS take food and water
enjoy yourself and have fun

As far as tools go make sure you have what you need to change a tire, fix a loose hose, and tape something back together. So a small tool box with a set of wrenches, some screwdrivers, some wire and some duct tape.

Your spare will be good enough as long as you don't pickup another nail etc. A tire repair kit with plugs and a small air compressor will get you going again. I have a SureFlow compressor and it works great.

I hope this helps iluvshoes. :thumb:

Thanks! It sounds like the normal stuff you should have in your trunk...well maybe not the air compressor but the rest seems common sense. So to become a rock crawler from a mall crawler I should...take out the extra shopping bags, 20 pairs of sunglasses, extra pair of shoes, my bingo bag, sewing kit and garment hangers and replace with the items you listed. This is going to be a big change...:rofl:

jeff_in_rc 08-08-2012 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iluvshoes (Post 2665279)
Thanks! It sounds like the normal stuff you should have in your trunk...well maybe not the air compressor but the rest seems common sense. So to become a rock crawler from a mall crawler I should...take out the extra shopping bags, 20 pairs of sunglasses, extra pair of shoes, my bingo bag, sewing kit and garment hangers and replace with the items you listed. This is going to be a big change...:rofl:

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

I loved you answer, I am still :rofl:.

And yes you should remove all of that! :D

Ianbeaulieu 08-08-2012 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iluvshoes (Post 2665279)
Thanks! It sounds like the normal stuff you should have in your trunk...well maybe not the air compressor but the rest seems common sense. So to become a rock crawler from a mall crawler I should...take out the extra shopping bags, 20 pairs of sunglasses, extra pair of shoes, my bingo bag, sewing kit and garment hangers and replace with the items you listed. This is going to be a big change...:rofl:

Keep the Sewing Kit! your shorts may snag and get ripped :rofl:

jebby 08-08-2012 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iluvshoes (Post 2665213)
I am a person who has NEVER been off roading. And as of right now, I don't plan on it but I have questions. And please remember...this is my first Jeep and I am pretty much Jeep/off-roading stupid...thanks!

Originally Posted by jebby http://cdn.wranglerforum.com//images...s/viewpost.gif
DONT GO ALONE
make sure u have proper recovery gear...what is recovery gear other than a winch?
dont leave a mess...do you mean littering?
tread lightly...explain please
stay legal...explain this one too


i dont think a winch in necessary (although its a great thing to have) i think a snatch strap and proper tow points are essential. a high lift is a great hobo substitute for a winch and can do wonders in the right hands as well

people love to litter and it gets us kicked out of so many places. bring out what you brought in

tread lightly (google it lots to read) in short be careful not to damage the trail

also people love to explore but if you dont own the property and your not welcome on it stay off of it

iluvshoes 08-08-2012 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jebby (Post 2665710)
Originally Posted by jebby http://cdn.wranglerforum.com//images...s/viewpost.gif
DONT GO ALONE
make sure u have proper recovery gear...what is recovery gear other than a winch?
dont leave a mess...do you mean littering?
tread lightly...explain please
stay legal...explain this one too

i dont think a winch in necessary (although its a great thing to have) i think a snatch strap and proper tow points are essential. a high lift is a great hobo substitute for a winch and can do wonders in the right hands as well

people love to litter and it gets us kicked out of so many places. bring out what you brought in

tread lightly (google it lots to read) in short be careful not to damage the trail

also people love to explore but if you dont own the property and your not welcome on it stay off of it

:eek: I might be better off sticking to mall crawling and burning rubber in the parking lots and damaging my bank account! So many rules and so subjective. For example, what is considered damaging the trails. I mean to me off-roading is kicking up dirt and moving piles of mud and you are maybe going to bump into a bush or two. Unless I see Jeep parts laying all over the place, I would think, that it is just part of the trail and the advanture of the off-roading.

Tadpoles 08-08-2012 03:57 PM

Don't forget to bring a towel!.... and a gun!

LilYeller 08-08-2012 07:27 PM

So it basically comes down to respecting the land. How about if you meet a group of people on the same trail going the opposite way?

WatchThis! 08-08-2012 07:35 PM

Trail damage is when some idit pulls up to something, puts it on the floor, spins the tires for two mins in the same spot and digs a huge rut that makes it harder for everone else to get up said spot. This is okay if you are wheeling on your own land, but it is a huge problem in an ORV park

Shauna 08-08-2012 07:53 PM

Google your state's OHV laws. Always go with at least one other vehicle...preferably a mechanic who has an air compressor and knows how to fix stuff (look into local jeep clubs where you can make new friends). Buy some tire deflators and an air pressure gauge. Tread lightly, meaning: don't leak oil, don't drive off the trail, don't drive through creeks/rivers unless necessary, don't litter. Bring fire extinguisher, shovel, extra gas, tools, trash bags. If camping, tie everything down and pack cans instead of glass ;)

Shauna 08-08-2012 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LilYeller (Post 2666301)
So it basically comes down to respecting the land. How about if you meet a group of people on the same trail going the opposite way?

Everyone is your friend on the trails (from my experience, anyway)....there's a lot of courtesy and people are in no hurry. Whoever can pull over the easiest or find a spot to climb into will generally do so

WatchThis! 08-08-2012 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shauna (Post 2666408)
Everyone is your friend on the trails (from my experience, anyway)....there's a lot of courtesy and people are in no hurry. Whoever can pull over the easiest or find a spot to climb into will generally do so

It might have something to do with me being a bit of a show off, but I will allways pull to the side of the trail and let someone go by if I can. Even if it means pushing a front tire 7 foot up a tree or ledge to get out of the way. :whistling:

Shauna 08-08-2012 08:28 PM

Seen a lot of that too....those are my favorite :)

Shauna 08-08-2012 08:31 PM

Oh yeah, buy a tow strap too

JKRookie 08-08-2012 09:13 PM

Im also an off road rookie and found this video for my Jeep SUPER helpful with understanding the awesomeness that is 4WD (for when to shift into 4H and 4L and all that jazz) :) definitely a must watch for rookies including myself!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxHQe...e_gdata_player

Jonny Mitch 08-08-2012 09:41 PM

Great thread so far. I am probably the ultimate rookie on this thread as I do not have a Jeep yet, but I still have a question. What kind of off-roading can you do with a stock JKU Sport? I plan on giving it a try once I make a purchase and will definitely go with others, but how do I know what the Jeep can and cannot handle?

Mitch

daggo66 08-08-2012 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LilYeller (Post 2666301)
So it basically comes down to respecting the land. How about if you meet a group of people on the same trail going the opposite way?

The polite thing to do is whoever has the room to do so should be the one to pull over. If there is more than one in your party, let them know how many are following you.

JKRookie 08-08-2012 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonny Mitch
Great thread so far. I am probably the ultimate rookie on this thread as I do not have a Jeep yet, but I still have a question. What kind of off-roading can you do with a stock JKU Sport? I plan on giving it a try once I make a purchase and will definitely go with others, but how do I know what the Jeep can and cannot handle?

Mitch



Look at the window sticker...find out the type of 4WD system your sport will have (that's what I did on my sahara) and I learned I have the Command-Trac 4WD system and then I found the above video on my specific system and learned what it could do..

Jeeps are known for their off road capabilities...it's hard to say what one can or cannot handle without seeing the obstacle itself and ultimately making the decision on whether you and your jeep can handle it or not...for instance making sure you know when and how to use your 4WD as opposed to just gunning it through a mud puddle and hoping for the best lol I did that a week after i got mine and luckily I managed to get out, but I had no idea what I was doing and it just seemed like an innocent little mud puddle waiting for me to tear through it, after almost getting stuck in 2WD I realized I had a lot to learn even for the little stuff lol

LilYeller 08-08-2012 10:09 PM

good stuff, how about if you have to stack a few rocks to get over an obsticle, should you clear them after you complete it or just leave them? I guess Im looking for common courtesies also. So post up what you have and anything you can think of on the subject. Thanks again!

50Johnbob 08-08-2012 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by daggo66 (Post 2666817)
The polite thing to do is whoever has the room to do so should be the one to pull over. If there is more than one in your party, let them know how many are following you.

Yes ^^^^^
Also, when two vehicles meet on a grade and there isn't a safe place to pull over, the vehicle traveling uphill has the right of way.

WatchThis! 08-08-2012 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LilYeller
good stuff, how about if you have to stack a few rocks to get over an obsticle, should you clear them after you complete it or just leave them? I guess Im looking for common courtesies also. So post up what you have and anything you can think of on the subject. Thanks again!

Lots of people will leave rocks when they have to stack them. When I HAVE to use a rock or two I have my passanger kick them off to the side when I get past them. If the next jeep wants them they will be close by but not in the way.

tj00wrangler 08-08-2012 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shauna (Post 2666539)
Oh yeah, buy a tow strap too

I would recommend a recovery strap for getting unstuck and a tow strap for flat towing such as on gravel roads or pavement. NEVER use a tow strap to pull someone who is stuck. They are not designed for that purpose.

Have a way to contact the outside world. Cell phone, CB, SPOT, satillite phone or HAM radio. Let some one at home know when you'll be back and the area you will be. That way they can call for help if they don't hear from you within that time.

Shauna 08-08-2012 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tj00wrangler (Post 2667193)
I would recommend a recovery strap for getting unstuck and a tow strap for flat towing such as on gravel roads or pavement. NEVER use a tow strap to pull someone who is stuck. They are not designed for that purpose.

Oh...what's the difference if lb capacity is the same?

CESwartz 08-09-2012 12:09 AM

The elasticity. And a static load capacity is different from its kinetic capacity. Just like breaking strength is not the same as working load.

Brew 08-09-2012 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tj00wrangler
I would recommend a recovery strap for getting unstuck and a tow strap for flat towing such as on gravel roads or pavement. NEVER use a tow strap to pull someone who is stuck. They are not designed for that purpose.

Have a way to contact the outside world. Cell phone, CB, SPOT, satillite phone or HAM radio. Let some one at home know when you'll be back and the area you will be. That way they can call for help if they don't hear from you within that time.

There is nothing wrong with a tow strap if used correctly. As long as you aren't trying to yank someone out with a tow strap they are fine. Just go slow, take all the slack out, then pull slow and steady. Ideally, a recovery strap and a tow strap should be in a recovery bag. Different methods for different situations. Just don't use a tow strap with metal hooks, those are weak and can be very dangerous.

Redsand 08-09-2012 01:30 AM

Don't climb a hill if the person in front of you is still going up it
The person going up hill has the right of way
Don't charge money to pull someone out
Don't litter
Just to name a few


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