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ckalogris 08-09-2012 05:42 AM

Rough Country 4", without SYE
 
Does anyone has a TJ, 4.0lt, auto, model 2003-2006, with Rough Country 4", without a new SYE?

I am about to buy this suspension and I wan to know if the TC drop is sufficient, if an MML is also needed, or if I will eventually go with the SYE solution.

thanks!
Christos

Gama26b 08-09-2012 06:00 AM

You know i was looking at the reviews on these guys, not only that but alot of my buddies told me not too go that route, you might reconsider, yes its inexpensive however you get what you pay for. I my self went with zone 4" lift for my 88 yj. very easy and simple instructions and great ride. but there are others you can look at as well. my entire lift was about 750 bucks not bad and i didnt need a sye.

blue6tj 08-09-2012 06:22 AM

4" Lift, yes you need a SYE Kit... If you want, do a combo lift 2.5" Lift and a 1.25" BL (or a 3" and a 1.25"). 3" you don't need a SYE Kit. Remember, if you go cheap, you get cheap, and cheap things cost you more in the end...

Hoagie. 08-09-2012 06:46 AM

i just installed a 4" rc and yes it is a cheap and shitty ride but you do not need the sye. it would be benificial but not needed. im running without one now

blue6tj 08-09-2012 06:55 AM

You don't need gas in you Jeep to go up hill either but it makes it a lot easier...

noctrnl 08-09-2012 06:57 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUh8l...e_gdata_player

Gama26b 08-09-2012 06:59 AM

you ask me, what a waste of money

Mudweiser 08-09-2012 07:57 AM

Lot of biased opinions on this particular lift. Ive ran 2 of them now. On my black 01...i ran it with an SYE after i got around to puttin it on, on my current 06 build im not runnin an SYE yet. But will when i get around to buying new uppers, and some other components. The lift itself does not need anything but what you get with it to run it. The new version is better then the one i had on my 01. Ride is fine with the shocks that come with it. If you want later on you can upgrade pieces of it. Adjustable track bars, stainless brake lines, adjustable uppers, lowers, whatever. Its a great platform to start off with. Especially if your jeep sees as much pavement as it does offroad. Im sure Bilsteins would soften the ride up and if your unhappy with it..you can change the springs out at a later time. For the price you cant beat it for durability and ease of install. And it gets you to the height you want to be at without waiting a year, or takin out a second morgage. Ive put alot of different lift kits on jeeps, ranging from trailmaster, to procomp, to skyjacker, to RE for friends...and there is no difference in the short arm kits. I dont care for long arm kits personally, but some of the guys i ride with like em. We do alot of trail riding, mud boggin, and hill climbs but we dont do rocks very much...so im speaking from that experience. Some of the more seasoned rock guys can lead you in that direction if thats what your looking for. Can show ya piks whatever if you need em.

blue6tj 08-09-2012 08:01 AM

how does you D30/D44 hold up the 38"'s Mudweiser

Mudweiser 08-09-2012 10:10 AM

Holds up just fine. I managed to pretzel the upper control arms gettin too much air coming out of a mud hole, but i needed to upgrade them anyhow. Got rid of the black TJ a year ago or so, the guy who has it still driving it to this day with the same set up. My yellow tj has the d44 as well, runnin 36s on it now. Decided to keep it a little lower since i drive it to work when its raining and cant ride my bike. The limitations of each individuals set up is specific to the terrain you intend to bash on. I dont do anything resembling rock crawling....mainly swamps, bogs, trails, and hills. So i can run bigger then guys building for moab and such. Also goin to run 4:56 in this jeep to keep wheel speed up. While most say 4:88s suit them, i need more wheel speed for what i do. Not everyone has a use for the same set-up as the rock racer guys :P

TXST8tj 08-09-2012 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gama26b (Post 2667643)
You know i was looking at the reviews on these guys, not only that but alot of my buddies told me not too go that route, you might reconsider, yes its inexpensive however you get what you pay for. I my self went with zone 4" lift for my 88 yj. very easy and simple instructions and great ride. but there are others you can look at as well. my entire lift was about 750 bucks not bad and i didnt need a sye.

It's funny to shoot down one 'box kit' system when you went with the same quality 'box kit' system thinking there is a difference....
and it's a completely different type of suspension system.
.

ninjaturtle0 08-09-2012 11:04 AM

I would recommend it, get the SYE. My Jeep has 4" lift with no SYE when I brought it, getting it installed on Monday.

UnlimitedLJ04 08-09-2012 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noctrnl (Post 2667726)

what are you trying to show here?

IslandTJ 08-09-2012 11:05 AM

If you are dead set against a SYE, check out Zone's 4.25" combo lift (not their 4" lift).

4.25" TJ Combo Lift

If you still get vibes, you may drop your transfer case with just a couple of washers vs. a spacer kit.

WranglerWarrior 08-09-2012 11:08 AM

Not to steal the thread or anything, but what about the rc x flex series is that as junky its a little more expensive so I wasn't sure.

Redsand 08-09-2012 11:36 AM

Seems like the people who always bash rc have never ran one. I beat on mine for over 100k miles with no issues, up graded to their long arm a couple years ago and love it

Flashole 08-09-2012 01:31 PM

I just installed the RC X-series 4" lift on my 2001 TJ. I don't know what all the fuss is about. All the joints are adjustable, greasable and re-buildable. It does ride a little rough, but it's certainly not bone jaring or anything. Honestly, it doesn't ride that much rougher than when it was stock. It just seems to me that all everyeone ever really complains about is the shocks. For my needs, RC works just fine and I'm completely satisfied.

As for the SYE, I sprung for it when I did the lift. I contemplated just doing the transfer case drop, but I decided that it would be better and cheaper in the long run just to do it right the first time.

WranglerWarrior 08-09-2012 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flashole
I just installed the RC X-series 4" lift on my 2001 TJ. I don't know what all the fuss is about. All the joints are adjustable, greasable and re-buildable. It does ride a little rough, but it's certainly not bone jaring or anything. Honestly, it doesn't ride that much rougher than when it was stock. It just seems to me that all everyeone ever really complains about is the shocks. For my needs, RC works just fine and I'm completely satisfied.

As for the SYE, I sprung for it when I did the lift. I contemplated just doing the transfer case drop, but I decided that it would be better and cheaper in the long run just to do it right the first time.

Thanks that's what I needed to know

rbkelley89 08-09-2012 06:02 PM

i have the 4" on the tj i got last month and its a nice ride but i dont like the tcase drop so i am doing a tt soon

jeepdude2003 08-09-2012 07:48 PM

I have a zone 4 inch lift with tcase drop no vibs at all 2003 x had for 4 months now my friend same set up but a 2006 jeep had drive line vibs right of the start and his jeep only has 30000 miles

MarkNog 08-09-2012 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoagie. (Post 2667701)
i just installed a 4" rc and yes it is a cheap and shitty ride but you do not need the sye. it would be benificial but not needed. im running without one now

Im callling BS on this... I have the 2.5 and it vibrated without a drop.

That is... unless you have a rubicon LJ.

Redsand 08-10-2012 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkNog

Im callling BS on this... I have the 2.5 and it vibrated without a drop.

That is... unless you have a rubicon LJ.

For some reason vibes are hit and miss, some get them some don't

knaubone 08-10-2012 01:13 AM

SYE VRS T-case drop
 
I'm getting real close to buying a 4" (Super Lift) For my 97 and have been doing a lot of research and found that droping the T-case instead of going with the SYE will sometimes not let your reverse or 5th gear fully engage and poss break gears in your tranny. So I am not going to chance it Im going with the SYE and either new or mod my DL (which is what you'll have to do if you go with the SYE)

jeepdude2003 08-10-2012 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knaubone
I'm getting real close to buying a 4" (Super Lift) For my 97 and have been doing a lot of research and found that droping the T-case instead of going with the SYE will sometimes not let your reverse or 5th gear fully engage and poss break gears in your tranny. So I am not going to chance it Im going with the SYE and either new or mod my DL (which is what you'll have to do if you go with the SYE)

I just removed the console around the shifter some cut the console either way thats not a big deal


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