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arizonaTJ 08-15-2012 12:59 AM

Winch on a Stock Bumper
 
Hey there everybody,

I have the opportunity to purchase a brand new Warn VR12000 winch at a very good price, and I know I don't need the 12,000 lb capabilities but the price is fantastic and more can't hurt. However I am still sporting the stock bumper on by 97 TJ, does anyone know if I can mount this winch on a stock bumper? If so is there anything else I need to buy to make it mount? Any feedback is appreciated!

Jcole231 08-15-2012 01:49 AM

U can mount a winch plate to install it, that winch is about 25-30 lbs heavier than say ur average 8000lb or 9500lb winch but it will work

Irongrave 08-15-2012 07:27 AM

AtoZ fab makes a really nice builder bumper under $100 they you can mount your winch too and go from there

Gary2 08-15-2012 07:29 AM

the winch dont attach to the bumper it mounts to a winch plate that sits behind and over it on an OE bumper so you are fine . I prefer the OE bumper being its light and when you add a winch and a winch plate you will know its there . that is a fair amount of weight out on the nose of a TJ . Synthetic line helps too.

cphilip 08-15-2012 09:36 AM

You can find a decent little winch mounting plate for the TJ for like $40. Summit has one and they often sell that one on eBay for cheap with free shipping... as well as Harbor Freight to name a couple sources.

This is what a stock bumper mounted winch on a simple mounting plate looks like...

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...p/IMG_1428.jpg


Here is a link to a current auction where Summit is selling its plate for just under $37 with free shipping. And I have one of these for a future mount and its pretty darn substantial and thick and typical of most of them.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Summit-Racin...orcev4exp=true

BamaRolln 08-15-2012 09:44 AM

Does a winch (say avg. 100lbs) make the front sag a little bit when installed?

cphilip 08-15-2012 11:26 AM

I hear this all the time but to tell you the truth... I cannot notice any change in mine. Mine is a Warn M8000 with the simple mounting plate (Rugged Ridge branded one that I found local used) so I would say that added nearly 100 pounds but I can't detect any difference. I will admit I didn't take any measurements before and after. My jeep stock with the original sized 30" tires on it.

In case your even mildly interested... I am now collecting the items for what I will call a Budget Winch install. This is for my Son's TJ. He has an 02 Sahara with 31" tires on it. He doesn't do much offroad beyond some club rides on old logging trails and from mild to not even moderate difficultly. And uses is for bad weather getting to work and such, which is actually quite rare around here. He is a Sheriffs Deputy and his wife teaches school up in the NW corner of our state. It gets into the edge of the mountains and sometimes sees some icy snow about twice or thrice a year. But being both government employees they can't really afford to buy a lot of extras and, me, being on a fixed retired income can't get too extravagant either so I decided to plan ahead for Christmas and put this package together.

So far I have chosen to try the Engo E9000 which I ordered just this past weekend and it should arrive this coming Monday. It will be unpacked just to make sure it arrived intact and that I have no immediate concerns and then packed back up. This was $289 shipped.

A couple weeks ago I pulled the trigger on one of those eBay Summit plates. So I have that sitting back already. This cost me $37 shipped and delivered.

The only thing really left to deal with is some sort of Winch isolator for safety sakes. I can do that for between $13 and $30. I have the Daystar one on mine and really like it so I might splurge on this item and pay the $30 I can get it for through Amazon and be done with it.

So far then...

Winch = $289
Plate = $37
Isolator = $30

Total will be $356

Could save another $17 if I buy the cheapest isolator so could be as low as $339...

I just hope it turns out to be useful and a good one. Wish I could get a few more hundred into the deal and get the Warn but... it is what it is.

CMA_Rider 08-15-2012 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamaRolln
Does a winch (say avg. 100lbs) make the front sag a little bit when installed?

Mine sagged a little
Winch on stock bumper

Rolly32 08-15-2012 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cphilip (Post 2687077)
You can find a decent little winch mounting plate for the TJ for like $40. Summit has one and they often sell that one on eBay for cheap with free shipping... as well as Harbor Freight to name a couple sources.

This is what a stock bumper mounted winch on a simple mounting plate looks like...

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...p/IMG_1428.jpg


Here is a link to a current auction where Summit is selling its plate for just under $37 with free shipping. And I have one of these for a future mount and its pretty darn substantial and thick and typical of most of them.

Summit Racing Winch Channel Mount Steel Black Powdercoated Jeep Each | eBay

With that being said, is the warn winch plate sort of a rip off? I got a brand new warn vr1200 winch (still in the box) for free that was inside a storage trailer when I bought the dryvan trailer. I been wanting to put it on the jeep already :punk:

cphilip 08-15-2012 11:37 AM

I couldn't say. I don't own one but I have seen them in the store. Keep in mind that the TJ plate (IIRC) that Warn makes is a more complicated riser one. It takes a bit more metal and more welding. It lifts the winch up higher and clears the bumper a bit more so it is more expensive to make. And I suspect it is still USA made if that makes a difference to you. I can respect that part of it too. All these other simple plates are all made in China or some such. The comparison is not apples to apples. The Warn plate can accept a riser tube and is a more complicated and probably better plate overall. Its just that a cheaper simpler plate will work.

Gary2 08-15-2012 11:52 AM

If in doubt put a hundred pounds or more ( 12000 lb winch is heavy ) of something on your front bumper and make use of a tape measure. I have yet to see one that didn't drop some ith a mounted winch like that on it . If it didnt it has stiffer springs than I have ever seen on a TJ

Jcole231 08-15-2012 12:47 PM

I have the vr8000 on an xrc smittybilt, dropped my front end drastically with teraflex springs


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