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Kevin063 09-03-2012 01:16 PM

Lift Questions
 
So i know there are thousands of lift question threads, but instead of scanning them all, i figure why not start a new one?
I've had my jeep for about 4 months, but only recently started thinking about lifts and other mods and what not.
SO, what can you guys tell me about lifts (best, worst, what needs to be done before hand since my Jeep is 110% stock, etc etc)
Thanks :thumb:

wranglermatt4527 09-03-2012 01:47 PM

Kevin, First your gonna get blasted on here for not scanning a few of the previous 1 million threads. Second, whatever youre plannin on with your jeep, you get what you pay for. Third, let us know what you want for your jeep. Let us know about your jeep. Fill us in so we know what direction to send you in.

Fireaxe 09-03-2012 02:18 PM

Yeah, we all read that as:
Hey guys not going to do any work so it for me....thanks.

what kind if jeep: yr, sport-sahara, auto/man, 4cyl/6 what tires? Where do you drive mostly, you want to trail ride our climb rocks?
you have a Jeep....you won't believe how many options are out there.

orange05tj 09-03-2012 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fireaxe
Yeah, we all read that as:
Hey guys not going to do any work so it for me....thanks.



Lol. Thats what I was thinking.

We be needing some more info.

Kevin063 09-03-2012 06:28 PM

1997, manual.
4 cyl
Very little trail riding
Daily driver, just to school and what not.

wranglermatt4527 09-03-2012 06:36 PM

OK college student so youre on a budget.... Budget boost.
4 cylinder so you dont wanna go over 33s without regearing and even that is questionable.
I say a Zone 4.25" lift is gonna be your best bet.
3" springs so you wont have to do a SYE and the 1.25 BL and 1"MML will be good on your pocket and theres lots of guys on here that run the same set-up. Plus you can upgrade on top of parts you already have.

Kevin063 09-03-2012 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wranglermatt4527 (Post 2754471)
OK college student so youre on a budget.... Budget boost.
4 cylinder so you dont wanna go over 33s without regearing and even that is questionable.
I say a Zone 4.25" lift is gonna be your best bet.
3" springs so you wont have to do a SYE and the 1.25 BL and 1"MML will be good on your pocket and theres lots of guys on here that run the same set-up. Plus you can upgrade on top of parts you already have.

Yes, I googled it and did some light skimming, and from what I've found, that's exactly what i'm looking for, and it undershot my budget just a bit :thumb:
Will I need to do anything before hand? Jeep is 100% stock, and honestly I don't have the faintest idea
Thank you.
Any other tips or suggestions would be appreciated :D

TJGill 09-03-2012 07:47 PM

Im in the same situation. Im headed for the 2.25" BB lift with 31" mickey thompson mud claws.

Kevin063 09-03-2012 08:04 PM

Hmmmm, that sounds like a good plan. I really do need something budget friendly, and the 4.25 Zone lift combo is just that. And i'd like to get something that looks decent on relatively stock tires. I know we all kinda cringe when we see a huge lift on tiny tires lol.

Kevin063 09-04-2012 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJGill (Post 2754723)
Im in the same situation. Im headed for the 2.25" BB lift with 31" mickey thompson mud claws.

Hmmmm, that sounds like a good plan. I really do need something budget friendly, and the 4.25 Zone lift combo is just that. And i'd like to get something that looks decent on relatively stock tires. I know we all kinda cringe when we see a huge lift on tiny tires lol.

TJGill 09-04-2012 05:02 PM

How much is it for the 4.25?

Steeljag 09-04-2012 05:36 PM

Google it.....approx $ 500.00 !

Kevin063 09-04-2012 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJGill (Post 2758149)
How much is it for the 4.25?

$529.99, pretty sweet deal it seems like. Are disconnects recommended over the solid links?

TJGill 09-04-2012 08:23 PM

Wayyy over my budget lol. 2.25" is only gonna cost me $180.00 and thats including labor

orange05tj 09-04-2012 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TJGill
Wayyy over my budget lol. 2.25" is only gonna cost me $180.00 and thats including labor

You could save a ton in labor by doing it yourself. Its not that hard of a job. Basic tools, jack stands, and a few beers and your done.

Bugeater 09-04-2012 08:36 PM

I, too, have a '97 TJ 2.5L 5-speed.

My first wheel/tire upgrade was from 29" tires on the stock 15" wheels to 31" MT/Rs on 16" wheels. I then put a 3" Zone lift on.

I'm happy with the 3" Zone lift, but in retrospect I would rather have spent the money on a 1" lift and put the rest toward MetalCloak fenders.

My next big project is a re-gear from the stock 4.10s to 4.88s, followed by an upgrade to 33" tires on yet-to-be-determined new wheels.

Mine is a daily driver with lots of playing in the snow, but little opportunity for actual wheeling - although I'm building it for when that opportunity comes!!

JeepJT04 09-04-2012 09:01 PM

I have a 97 6cyl. Looking to lift. already sitting on 31s.
Is it bad to just get the 2inch spacers? I have heard its just a crappy way to lift. Who has experience in this?

CMA_Rider 09-04-2012 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JeepJT04
I have a 97 6cyl. Looking to lift. already sitting on 31s.
Is it bad to just get the 2inch spacers? I have heard its just a crappy way to lift. Who has experience in this?

Its not necessarily a bad thing more so a cheap way to gain 2in while retaining the stock ride quality

Kevin063 09-05-2012 03:52 PM

I think I'm leaning more towards a 2.5 to 3 inch lift. It's more practical I think, and hopefully I won't have to do to much before hand. Granted, its gonna take me several months to save enough Lol, unfortunately it seems I'm looking at a Christmas gift to myself :P
I wish we got snow, hell, I wish I had anywhere to go. Just south of Atlanta, we don't get much of anything around here lol

CMA_Rider 09-05-2012 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin063
I think I'm leaning more towards a 2.5 to 3 inch lift. It's more practical I think, and hopefully I won't have to do to much before hand. Granted, its gonna take me several months to save enough Lol, unfortunately it seems I'm looking at a Christmas gift to myself :P
I wish we got snow, hell, I wish I had anywhere to go. Just south of Atlanta, we don't get much of anything around here lol

You can do a 3.25 lift for less than $200
2bb $50 depending on the brand
1.25bl $100
1in mml $25

Kevin063 09-05-2012 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMA_Rider

You can do a 3.25 lift for less than $200
2bb $50 depending on the brand
1.25bl $100
1in mml $25

That sounds great!! My jeep s totally stock, I don't need to do anything before hand, right?

CMA_Rider 09-05-2012 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin063

That sounds great!! My jeep s totally stock, I don't need to do anything before hand, right?

Nope, I took my time and finished the whole thing in about 2 days. Got the BB from fat bobs garage's ebay site, and got the bl & mml from toms4x4superstore.com

Before

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After

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Kevin063 09-05-2012 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMA_Rider

You can do a 3.25 lift for less than $200
2bb $50 depending on the brand
1.25bl $100
1in mml $25

And I won't have to make many major, expensive mods afterwards? (I.e. regear, etc etc?) Honest to God, I know nothing about any of it. But I'm trying :P

CMA_Rider 09-05-2012 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin063

And I won't have to make many major, expensive mods afterwards? (I.e. regear, etc etc?) Honest to God, I know nothing about any of it. But I'm trying :P

After the BB you'll have to get the front end aligned
regear depends on what tire size, transmission, and gear ratio you have right now.

You will need pb blaster or wd40, a good set of wrenches, a couple of jacks, jack stands, and if you put the bottle jack that comes with the jeep and put it between the lower control arm and the frame you wont need a spring compressor

Kevin063 09-05-2012 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMA_Rider

After the BB you'll have to get the front end aligned
regear depends on what tire size, transmission, and gear ratio you have right now.

You will need pb blaster or wd40, a good set of wrenches, a couple of jacks, jack stands, and if you put the bottle jack that comes with the jeep and put it between the lower control arm and the frame you wont need a spring compressor

Well allllll that just flew right over my head. I have no clue as to the gear ratios, hell I'm not even certain on my tires size Lol, its sad the limited knowledge I have on my own car. But, I'll do some research, tr to snag some good deals :D

Kevin063 09-05-2012 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 2759031)
I, too, have a '97 TJ 2.5L 5-speed.

My first wheel/tire upgrade was from 29" tires on the stock 15" wheels to 31" MT/Rs on 16" wheels. I then put a 3" Zone lift on.

I'm happy with the 3" Zone lift, but in retrospect I would rather have spent the money on a 1" lift and put the rest toward MetalCloak fenders.

My next big project is a re-gear from the stock 4.10s to 4.88s, followed by an upgrade to 33" tires on yet-to-be-determined new wheels.

Mine is a daily driver with lots of playing in the snow, but little opportunity for actual wheeling - although I'm building it for when that opportunity comes!!

Digging the fenders :thumb: but i saw a thread where some guy cut his stock fenders down, looked pretty bad ass, and close to free lol.
There is soooooooo much i wanna do to my Jeep, but I'm in no kind of financial position for such projects. I see something new everyday and think "Hey, i wanna do th-....dammit" lol

mickeygriffin 09-05-2012 08:50 PM

Kevin where are you in Atl? Im downtown.

A bit of advice... Spend you about $200bux or so on some basic tools. A jeep is a great way to learn some basics of how vehicles in general work. Not to mention, DIY is much, much more gratifying n rewarding once you've wipe your hands clean, pop a beer open n say, "I did that..." NOT TO MENTION.... Its definitely the way to go if you are on a budget!

2-3in lift kit- Around $400 bux
2-3in lift kit installation labor charge- SMH.... Ive seen them for over $800....!!

CMA_Rider 09-05-2012 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickeygriffin (Post 2763415)
Kevin where are you in Atl? Im downtown.

A bit of advice... Spend you about $200bux or so on some basic tools. A jeep is a great way to learn some basics of how vehicles in general work. Not to mention, DIY is much, much more gratifying n rewarding once you've wipe your hands clean, pop a beer open n say, "I did that..." NOT TO MENTION.... Its definitely the way to go if you are on a budget!

2-3in lift kit- Around $400 bux
2-3in lift kit installation labor charge- SMH.... Ive seen them for over $800....!!

x2

I was quoted about $500 for installation of $50 pucks and another $600 for body lift and motor mount lift

Meanwhile I took a day out and installed the BB with a couple of $25 wrenches $300 jack and a set of $50 stands

and another day for the BL MML with a jack, a couple of wrenches and extensions

Its a whole lot cheaper and you get experience you will need in the future

mickeygriffin 09-05-2012 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CMA_Rider (Post 2763553)
x2

I was quoted about $500 for installation of $50 pucks and another $600 for body lift and motor mount lift

Wowzers... $600 for a friggin BL...

CMA_Rider 09-05-2012 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickeygriffin (Post 2763608)
Wowzers... $600 for a friggin BL...

For both the BL and MML

But ya as soon as they said that I hung up the phone and called my friend and told him I'm buyin pizza:D


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