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PhotoWrangler 09-26-2012 11:09 PM

Aftermarket UConnect?
 
My head unit has Sirius, but not the UConnect hands free. The dealership said they could add the UConnect system, but it would not be integrated into my radio. They "stick" (for lack of a better term) a button onto the dash, and you push it to answer or make calls. The calls then play through your stereo.

Has anyone had this done, and is it worth it? I'm a big believer in keeping all things looking stock, so aftermarket stuff really isn't appealing unless I can get a nice big navi screen or something, and the stearing wheel controls would still work.

jwilson2598 09-26-2012 11:16 PM

Does your current radio have the UConnect button on it? If so they can add the integrated UConnect and it will work just as the factory one does. I think all the Sirius radios have UConnect buttons present, they just don't have the module installed unless you order connectivity package. If for some reason you don't, you could swap in a head unit with the buttons, add the kit, and you'd be all set.

bfgrubi 09-26-2012 11:26 PM

If you install aftermarket receiver, you can get this already installed. you wouldn't have the steering wheel button, but most current aftermarket receivers have bluetooth answering through the radio, and you would get better than factory quality receiver. You could still have the volume controls from the steering wheel depending on the new receiver.

PhotoWrangler 09-26-2012 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jwilson2598 (Post 2834114)
Does your current radio have the UConnect button on it? .


Thats the kicker... it doesn't have the UConnect button, nor does my steering wheel.

Someone is selling a 2012 HU on ebay for $85 that I thought about buying. It has the Uconnect button.

jwilson2598 09-27-2012 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by PhotoWrangler

Thats the kicker... it doesn't have the UConnect button, nor does my steering wheel.

Someone is selling a 2012 HU on ebay for $85 that I thought about buying. It has the Uconnect button.

If you get one with the UConnect button, you can add on the kit and it will will work just like factory except you won't have the steering wheel button. Instead you'll use the buttons on the radio. I believe you can even get the cable to add on the USB connector for playing music through it as well.

Jbird26 09-27-2012 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jwilson2598

If you get one with the UConnect button, you can add on the kit and it will will work just like factory except you won't have the steering wheel button. Instead you'll use the buttons on the radio. I believe you can even get the cable to add on the USB connector for playing music through it as well.

You can. That's what I did. I already had the uconnect button, I just ordered the uconnect module and ipod cord.
Be warned, it's an expensive add.

bigkevj 09-27-2012 08:14 AM

I am looking at a Kenwood HU for my 13 wrangler. Dont have the jeep yet, but will put this in it when I get it. Has connector that will be added to it for bluetooth, also has connector to use steering wheel controls (not sure which ones/all but was was told tuner and volume buttons on steering wheel would work) and getting XM/Sirius antenna/capability added as well. this is all a lot cheaper than the 730N or whatever HU they tried to sell me at the dealership.

Steffen1601 09-27-2012 09:36 AM

I did install an after market connection kit (Bluetooth, sat radio, navigation, HDD) and it never performed the same way the factory installed versions did. the callers heard echoes, lots of noise. etc. I don't care much anymore about navigation since the portable once perform better than the installed once, but since it's the law in California to use hands-free devices for phones I prefer the factory installed versions.

xsdbs 09-27-2012 10:29 AM

The kit that the dealer wants to install is a Mopar kit. It has the button pad to replace the buttons that you don't have on the steering wheel or the radio.
I have a thread on this topic if you'd like to read it, the link is below:
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f40/res...fo-162263.html

This kit is a direct plug into existing harness connectors. An aftermarket kit would have you cutting and splicing your factory wiring.
As mentioned by others, you can get a radio with the Uconnect buttons on it, then you'd purchase the Mopar kit PN 82212159 (about $250 online) and the optional USB / iPod cable PN 82212160 (about $35). You'll want this cable with either kit even if you don't plan on using an iPod. The reason is because any Uconnect updates are done using this cable.
Hope this helps.


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Originally Posted by PhotoWrangler (Post 2834079)
My head unit has Sirius, but not the UConnect hands free. The dealership said they could add the UConnect system, but it would not be integrated into my radio. They "stick" (for lack of a better term) a button onto the dash, and you push it to answer or make calls. The calls then play through your stereo.

Has anyone had this done, and is it worth it? I'm a big believer in keeping all things looking stock, so aftermarket stuff really isn't appealing unless I can get a nice big navi screen or something, and the stearing wheel controls would still work.


PhotoWrangler 09-28-2012 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by xsdbs (Post 2835197)
As mentioned by others, you can get a radio with the Uconnect buttons on it, then you'd purchase the Mopar kit PN 82212159 (about $250 online) and the optional USB / iPod cable PN 82212160 (about $35). You'll want this cable with either kit even if you don't plan on using an iPod. The reason is because any Uconnect updates are done using this cable.
Hope this helps.


So I could do this myself? I'm better with electronics than I am with a wrench anyway...

Jbird26 09-28-2012 09:55 AM

My only argument for doing it yourself is that the dealer charged me $601 total for parts & labor. I felt ripped to say the least.

PhotoWrangler 09-28-2012 09:57 AM

They want to charge me $599....

PhotoWrangler 09-28-2012 01:08 PM

The radio in my '13 Sport is the basic 130 without the buttons for UConnect. Instead of the phone and talk button on the radio it has Scan and Random on it. It is the RES unit.

I just bought this one off eBay. The guy took it out of his '12 after only a day of use. It has the buttons for UConnect, and I got it for $50. I should be able to swap head units, and add the Uconnect system and have it still appear completely factory without the 'peel and stick' buttons correct?

xsdbs 09-28-2012 01:18 PM

Correct,
Find the kit online, (ebay has some) once you have it installed the dealer will need to flash the vehicle to code RSP. Call around and find a dealer that will agree to charge a 1/2 hr labor instead of an hr. It really only takes about 15 minutes.



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Originally Posted by PhotoWrangler (Post 2839213)
The radio in my '13 Sport is the basic 130 without the buttons for UConnect. Instead of the phone and talk button on the radio it has Scan and Random on it. It is the RES unit.

I just bought this one off eBay. The guy took it out of his '12 after only a day of use. It has the buttons for UConnect, and I got it for $50. I should be able to swap head units, and add the Uconnect system and have it still appear completely factory without the 'peel and stick' buttons correct?


PhotoWrangler 09-28-2012 01:26 PM

Awesome!

uhfive 07-11-2013 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by xsdbs (Post 2839257)
Correct,
Find the kit online, (ebay has some) once you have it installed the dealer will need to flash the vehicle to code RSP. Call around and find a dealer that will agree to charge a 1/2 hr labor instead of an hr. It really only takes about 15 minutes.

Old thread but I have a question cause I am doing something similar...
What is the purpose in having the dealer flash the vehicle with RSP?
I ask because there is only one dealer in town and they are extremely strict on the "hour minimum" of $80...that puts me at $350+ if I do it myself with them flashing. $350!!!! Just for Bluetooth and a USB port!!! For that price I could have Cruthfield rip me off and still get bluetooth, a USB port, better quality streaming, GPS, a touchscreen, and loads of more features via AppRadio...I might even be able to afford new speakers all around if I found it on sale.

nwbronco 07-11-2013 09:00 AM

The new radio and option set may not work until the Jeep brain sees it. Plus, it ends up on the dealer service record, and gets covered if your warranty is still in effect.

Bob K.

laollis 07-11-2013 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by nwbronco (Post 3949977)
The new radio and option set may not work until the Jeep brain sees it. Plus, it ends up on the dealer service record, and gets covered if your warranty is still in effect.

Bob K.

LOL, Really? On the dealer service record??? Someone needs to tell the dealership where I live that they are suppose to do this. I had them replace my 130 with a 430N on 2013 Sport. It was just plug-n-play and the mechanic said he didn't think it would work and was a jerk about it for almost 20 minutes, so I told him to just connect it and walk away. It worked instantly. The dealership apologized saying the mechanic was new. (he wasn't, he's been there 4 years)

uhfive 07-11-2013 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by nwbronco (Post 3949977)
The new radio and option set may not work until the Jeep brain sees it. Plus, it ends up on the dealer service record, and gets covered if your warranty is still in effect.

Bob K.

Appreciate the response...I don't mind the not being on the service record or that crap. However it not working is kinda a big deal.

So, anyone out there got a uConnect radio and unit sitting around in a garage. I mean just think of all the dust it is collecting and the value it is losing by the day. I've got $50 that could be yours instead of that unwanted dust ball.

panthermark 07-11-2013 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by uhfive (Post 3950205)
Appreciate the response...I don't mind the not being on the service record or that crap. However it not working is kinda a big deal.

So, anyone out there got a uConnect radio and unit sitting around in a garage. I mean just think of all the dust it is collecting and the value it is losing by the day. I've got $50 that could be yours instead of that unwanted dust ball.

After one more post (you need 15), you could post the request in the "want to buy" section. But for sale/want to buy posts are not allowed in the JK section.

Being that I just removed a post of someone looking to sell a radio...there are willing sellers out there.

I bet you could PM some people in the 430 rbz thread...being that they probably have 130's laying around. Heck, I have a 130 that I pulled out of my 2013 a few days after I picked it up (to install a 430rbz). It is sitting in a box in my garage collecting dust...but it isn't for sale at the moment.

uhfive 07-11-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by panthermark (Post 3950387)
After one more post (you need 15), you could post the request in the "want to buy" section. But for sale/want to buy posts are not allowed in the JK section.

Being that I just removed a post of someone looking to sell a radio...there are willing sellers out there.

I bet you could PM some people in the 430 rbz thread...being that they probably have 130's laying around. Heck, I have a 130 that I pulled out of my 2013 a few days after I picked it up (to install a 430rbz). It is sitting in a box in my garage collecting dust...but it isn't for sale at the moment.

The 15 post rule has been killing me...I actually have tried two times (I'm kinda forgetful) and was denied then sent a message from the mods. FINALLY it looks like the wait is over. This should be my 15th post and with it comes a whole new world for of second hand parts, shaddy deals, and maybe I can even make a buck or two off my old stuff...the biggest thing though is I might actually be able to find that perfect uConnect deal.
Why wouldn't you sell the 130 yet?
Imagine what you could do with $50. Maybe buy yourself a nice Chicago Wolves practice jersey ($25) and still have enough left over to take the wife (or if you're not married just yourself) to Chili's for 2-4-1 Beers. In the end, I would consider you the real winner of this situation.

laollis 07-11-2013 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by uhfive (Post 3951098)
The 15 post rule has been killing me...I actually have tried two times (I'm kinda forgetful) and was denied then sent a message from the mods. FINALLY it looks like the wait is over. This should be my 15th post and with it comes a whole new world for of second hand parts, shaddy deals, and maybe I can even make a buck or two off my old stuff...the biggest thing though is I might actually be able to find that perfect uConnect deal.
Why wouldn't you sell the 130 yet?
Imagine what you could do with $50. Maybe buy yourself a nice Chicago Wolves practice jersey ($25) and still have enough left over to take the wife (or if you're not married just yourself) to Chili's for 2-4-1 Beers. In the end, I would consider you the real winner of this situation.

You probably need to go up about 25 bucks. Even eBay has them for $79. I sold mine on here for $75. last month.

Oh, WOW, I just read your ad in the Wanted section, and I see you are asking for the module as well as the HU for $50. Good Luck!

uhfive 07-11-2013 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by laollis (Post 3951898)

You probably need to go up about 25 bucks. Even eBay has them for $79. I sold mine on here for $75. last month.

Oh, WOW, I just read your ad in the Wanted section, and I see you are asking for the module as well as the HU for $50. Good Luck!

Does $50 really seem all that crazy when you put it into comparison of other comparable radios?
For under $100 I can find an Alpine head unit with Bluetooth phone and audio streaming built in, a USB port, and I don't have to pay an additional $80 to have my dealer "flash" new software so it is compatible. Add in the fact that odds are the aftermarket deck is going to outperform the OEM and it isn't even close.
Some would argue that you get a clean OEM look. Well you're right, but you are also paying literally double if not more!
Then we're back to the argument of, well it is just sitting in you're garage taking up space anyways. What purpose do you have with it?

Why do I want the OEM over an aftermarket one? I am one of those weirdos that like everything to match and don't mind subpar sound in order to get the look I want.

xsdbs 07-12-2013 06:47 AM

Just a couple of notes here (starting from the top post)
1) The reason why the vehicle has to be flashed to the "RSP" code is because the vehicle is a computer system. This system needs to know what modules it looks for to be on line when the key is turned on. If it doesn't see the listed modules on the CAN BUS network, then there is in some cases a problem light that comes on the dash and a DTC is also thrown. Some modules don't throw a trouble light on the dash but the DTC is still there for techs to see for diagnosing issues.
In the case of the Uconnect module, it won't throw a trouble light. However, this is the most important reason- the CAN BUS network tells the module to power up and work. So if the code isn't added, the module will not power up and work.
2) Simply adding a radio that someone has removed from their vehicle to do an upgrade won't give you Uconnect capabilities. You still need the Mopar kit (PN 82212159) and should also get the optional USB / iPod cable (PN 82212160). These parts can be found online for about $250.
3) Why have the Uconnect system instead of an aftermarket radio with BT features? Because it is less desirable to thief's than an aftermarket radio. The Jeep radio will only work in Chrysler vehicles (and in the case of a Jeep Wrangler, the vehicle has to be a High Speed CAN BUS vehicle). AN aftermarket will work in any vehicle. So a thief is more likely to smash your window for the aftermarket radio.









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Originally Posted by uhfive (Post 3952360)
Does $50 really seem all that crazy when you put it into comparison of other comparable radios?
For under $100 I can find an Alpine head unit with Bluetooth phone and audio streaming built in, a USB port, and I don't have to pay an additional $80 to have my dealer "flash" new software so it is compatible. Add in the fact that odds are the aftermarket deck is going to outperform the OEM and it isn't even close.
Some would argue that you get a clean OEM look. Well you're right, but you are also paying literally double if not more!
Then we're back to the argument of, well it is just sitting in you're garage taking up space anyways. What purpose do you have with it?

Why do I want the OEM over an aftermarket one? I am one of those weirdos that like everything to match and don't mind subpar sound in order to get the look I want.


uhfive 07-12-2013 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by xsdbs (Post 3953683)
Just a couple of notes here (starting from the top post)
1) The reason why the vehicle has to be flashed to the "RSP" code is because the vehicle is a computer system. This system needs to know what modules it looks for to be on line when the key is turned on. If it doesn't see the listed modules on the CAN BUS network, then there is in some cases a problem light that comes on the dash and a DTC is also thrown. Some modules don't throw a trouble light on the dash but the DTC is still there for techs to see for diagnosing issues.
In the case of the Uconnect module, it won't throw a trouble light. However, this is the most important reason- the CAN BUS network tells the module to power up and work. So if the code isn't added, the module will not power up and work.
2) Simply adding a radio that someone has removed from their vehicle to do an upgrade won't give you Uconnect capabilities. You still need the Mopar kit (PN 82212159) and should also get the optional USB / iPod cable (PN 82212160). These parts can be found online for about $250.
3) Why have the Uconnect system instead of an aftermarket radio with BT features? Because it is less desirable to thief's than an aftermarket radio. The Jeep radio will only work in Chrysler vehicles (and in the case of a Jeep Wrangler, the vehicle has to be a High Speed CAN BUS vehicle). AN aftermarket will work in any vehicle. So a thief is more likely to smash your window for the aftermarket radio.

Thanks for the info in #1.
#2, I figured that out and found those parts a while back. I would take one of those kits if I found it at a good deal. What I really would want though is the headunit with the uConnect button on it so I don't have to tape that uconnect button to my dash.
#3, I guess that makes sense...Some time I take it for granted that I live on a Air Force Base where theft is a extremely uncommon crime. As a matter of fact I don't lock my door for my car, leave the garage door open every night, and don't even lock up my home (not even when I go on vacation actually).

LewdDude 07-12-2013 08:41 AM

I got the uconnect module from a guy on this forum, but can't get a solid answer on what stand alone mic will work, and frankly have run out of steam trying to figure it out. It's for sale if anyone wants it. First $100 takes it. Doesn't help that my dealership is not helpful either...

uhfive 07-12-2013 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LewdDude (Post 3953953)
I got the uconnect module from a guy on this forum, but can't get a solid answer on what stand alone mic will work, and frankly have run out of steam trying to figure it out. It's for sale if anyone wants it. First $100 takes it. Doesn't help that my dealership is not helpful either...

Is this just the module that goes behind the dash or is this for the Head unit too? Do you have the USB cable with it? Pictures?
Maybe you should reply to my ad in the "wanted" section so we don't get a scolding for turning this into a for sale thread.

uhfive 07-12-2013 09:17 AM

On another note, I do have a legitimate question...
I may be able to get my hands on a uConnect 230 for dirt cheap, is this just like the 130 in that it needs the seperate uConnect module? And other than the 6-Disk CD player, what is the difference with the 230? Is it compatiable in my Jeep? It is coming out of an 07 Rubicon.
And just for gee wiz, are there any units with uConnect built in rather than these seperate parts?

LewdDude 07-12-2013 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by uhfive (Post 3954025)
Is this just the module that goes behind the dash or is this for the Head unit too? Do you have the USB cable with it? Pictures?
Maybe you should reply to my ad in the "wanted" section so we don't get a scolding for turning this into a for sale thread.

It's just the module that goes behind the head unit, and the harness to connect it. That's it.

xsdbs 07-12-2013 10:45 AM

Am I incorrect about thinking that I verified that the Amazon mic would work for you as well as give the Chrysler PN for the mic?
PN 68002646AA




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Originally Posted by LewdDude (Post 3953953)
I got the uconnect module from a guy on this forum, but can't get a solid answer on what stand alone mic will work, and frankly have run out of steam trying to figure it out. It's for sale if anyone wants it. First $100 takes it. Doesn't help that my dealership is not helpful either...



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