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Manwithplan46151 09-29-2012 07:57 AM

Need info on this 64 Jeep, Please.
 
I got this 1964 Jeep. The VIN says Kaiser, Toledo Ohio. How can I know if this is right? This jeep has all the metal replaced, new brakes, lines, exhaust, shocks, tires etc.....An older guy was working on it and passed away. I found my profile jeep stock and dumped alot of time and money in it to get it where it is now. It is the 92 YJ. I had alot of fun with it. I am wondering how much time and money this 64 is worth putting into. Any info would be great.....Anyone got a close estimate of what it is worth as it sits? It has top, and doors. Just dont have them on it.

Manwithplan46151 09-29-2012 08:03 AM

Having trouble posting pics this morning. They are on the general discussion under "did I just find a Kaiser" I will try to put them here again later.

Manwithplan46151 09-29-2012 08:05 AM

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here is pics.

4Jeepn 09-29-2012 08:07 AM

As I posted in the other thread is DJ.. mail jeep...

Manwithplan46151 09-29-2012 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 4Jeepn (Post 2841850)
As I posted in the other thread is DJ.. mail jeep...

Ok, Didnt see it in other thread sorry. Just dont know anything about it. Got alot of help on my YJ here, Thought I would see if I could get some info on this one......I never heard of dj....I am new to the jeep world though, So thats not saying alot..... You know value of it? Or close. Just curious........I mean $200, $2000? I dunno. Thx for replies.

Manwithplan46151 09-29-2012 08:16 AM

Any place I can run the VIN numbers and find out exactly what it is?

Cj7otr 09-30-2012 12:13 AM

They have a much lower value compared to CJs. I sold a fairly decent DJ about a year ago for about $1,200. I would have sold a CJ in the same condition For $3,500 minimal.

Manwithplan46151 09-30-2012 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Cj7otr (Post 2844191)
They have a much lower value compared to CJs. I sold a fairly decent DJ about a year ago for about $1,200. I would have sold a CJ in the same condition For $3,500 minimal.

OK, Thx. Thats kinda what I was asking...I appreciate the reply.

Ryno_YJ 09-30-2012 04:18 PM

I'm not totally convinced it's a DJ. It's hard to tell from my phone but it looks to be 4wd. Plus DJs had the right hand drive. Looking at the body from the doors back, it looks like there was some custom body work done because the rear fenders look odd too.

Ryno_YJ 09-30-2012 04:24 PM

Ok I retract my previous statement about the doors and fenders.

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...0037_large.jpg

Can anyone else on a pc or anything bigger than a phone see if that's a differential on the front axle or not?

Cj7otr 09-30-2012 05:50 PM

This is 4x4 based on the pics. It's also got a CJ front clip. Postal jeeps have a 5 slot grille and side vents. It's also got a CJ dash, the postal dash is different. But, the bumpers wrap around like a DJ. So, obviously someone has put a ton of work into this thing to transform it from a DJ to a sort of CJ.
What that does to the value?
Who knows...

Ryno_YJ 09-30-2012 06:18 PM

For the right price I would buy it just for it's uniqueness.

Manwithplan46151 09-30-2012 11:50 PM

It had alot of work done to it.....It is 4x4.......I drive a semi.....when I get home im gonna try to find a place to run the vin and see exactly what it is..The guy even built a top for it....I will post some pics of it when I get home.It is all metal and heavy though....I personally dont like it.

Cj7otr 10-02-2012 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Manwithplan46151
....I personally dont like it.

I'm with you. Too many odd mods. At the end of the day it's just a postal retrofitted as a wannabe CJ. There are too many CJs out there...

tropical36 10-03-2012 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Manwithplan46151 (Post 2841867)
Any place I can run the VIN numbers and find out exactly what it is?

I'd like an answer to this question as well, since we're working on a 1970 here.

Cj7otr 10-03-2012 08:41 PM

If you have a clear title to it, I would bet the DMV could run it for you.

Manwithplan46151 10-04-2012 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cj7otr (Post 2844191)
They have a much lower value compared to CJs. I sold a fairly decent DJ about a year ago for about $1,200. I would have sold a CJ in the same condition For $3,500 minimal.

Mine is a cj...so it is worth $3500? Thx.

Manwithplan46151 10-04-2012 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cj7otr (Post 2853364)
I'm with you. Too many odd mods. At the end of the day it's just a postal retrofitted as a wannabe CJ. There are too many CJs out there...

At the end of the day....To say the least, This is not a postal jeep..They are 2 wd dj's. I have found out that much....This is a 4x4 true blue cj... Now is it worht anything? Im trying hard to find out....this is a site for Jeeps only....I figured someone could give a direct (knowledgeable) No guessing answer...Thx alot.

harleydragon 10-05-2012 03:32 PM

it may not be a postal but the door and rear fender cutouts look like one..all cj's except the 7 and 8 had arches on the back of the door cutout and the rear fender cutouts were rounded on all cj's...1970 and earlier cj5's vin should either have a prefix of 57548 or 8305 and a cj-5a should have 8322...these prefixes would be followed by a 5 or 6 digit serial number..I just sold a 1971 in good condition for $2200..needless to say the buyer was very happy..here is a pic of it which shows the proper door and fender cutout shapes..I noticed also that your jeep has no tail gate..all cj's of that time period did have to the best of my knowledge

harleydragon 10-05-2012 03:37 PM

71 and earlier had round tail lights mounted low and smaller glove boxes

4Jeepn 10-06-2012 08:20 AM

I would guess that as we know the tub is a DJ tub, based on the door openings, that either is a DJ that has been converted over to 4wd, or might be one of the rumored dj's that had 4wd or its a cj5 with a dj tub on it. Based on the location of what appears to be the 4wd shifter location I would lean towards the convert to 4wd.

Manwithplan46151 10-06-2012 05:02 PM

I really appreciate everyone's input. I still am not sure. Haven't had time to go to DMV, Any of the above is absolutely possible, The guy that worked on it has passed and I didn't know him. He took all the facts about this jeep to his grave I reckon. He did do alot of metal work, Probably did have a tailgate, He put alot of work into it. I still am nt positive, But I will keep trying to get the numbers ran on it. What puzzles me is...WHY? why would he put this much time and money getting it to where it is now. I assure you he has replaced all body panels, brakes,rotors, lines, new tires, new exhaust,new shocks.....Just wonder why he would dump this miuch money and time in it if it is worthless... I will keep looking... Thx again. You guys are great.

Manwithplan46151 10-06-2012 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by harleydragon (Post 2864167)
it may not be a postal but the door and rear fender cutouts look like one..all cj's except the 7 and 8 had arches on the back of the door cutout and the rear fender cutouts were rounded on all cj's...1970 and earlier cj5's vin should either have a prefix of 57548 or 8305 and a cj-5a should have 8322...these prefixes would be followed by a 5 or 6 digit serial number..I just sold a 1971 in good condition for $2200..needless to say the buyer was very happy..here is a pic of it which shows the proper door and fender cutout shapes..I noticed also that your jeep has no tail gate..all cj's of that time period did have to the best of my knowledge

Just checked out the title.....It is according to this a CJ5 A.....It starts with 8322 and has 5 digits following it. Thx alot.....

harleydragon 10-06-2012 05:28 PM

the guy may have had a cj5a with a bad body and just used the postal tub

Manwithplan46151 10-06-2012 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by harleydragon (Post 2866209)
the guy may have had a cj5a with a bad body and just used the postal tub

Yeah, Never know....I am gonna paint and finish small things on it....Not sur what I will do with it from that point...I like the jeeps. The first one I have owned is my YJ in my profile.....I transformed it. Had alot of fun doing it... Im gonna work on this one also....Not sure how much I will spend on it...Time will tell. Thx alot.

harleydragon 10-06-2012 05:40 PM

cool..yw

lynn 10-09-2012 06:47 AM

8322 VIN prefix is indeed a CJ5A, also called the Tuxedo Park. The hood is clearly from a Tux, as indicated by the badge holes in front-lower sides.
Looks pretty clearly like a DJ tub swap.

For more help with this rig, visit the forums at EarlyCJ5.net
The guys there specialize in 1955-1975 CJ5s, and any variants you can imagine.

dvogel11 10-10-2012 10:46 AM

Id like to buy it

yellowsnow 10-11-2012 12:50 PM

Yup, that is a DJ tub. The vin swap on a tub from CJ to DJ is only a drill and two pop rivets away. Pretty clean though, worth tinkering with IMHO.

And what Lynn said, earlycj5.com. Good info, great folks.

Manwithplan46151 10-23-2012 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dvogel11 (Post 2876946)
Id like to buy it

What would you give for it? It runs fine, Has metal top and doors, New exhaust, new tune up. new brakes and lines. Make me an offer I cant refuse and you can buy it.


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