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LilYeller 10-07-2012 05:03 PM

Rampage Zipper Tonneau Cover
 
Anyone have any real world experience with this item? Looks like what I need but cant find any reviews or personal comments from people who own it.

All Things Jeep - Zipper Tonneau Cover, 97-06 Jeep Wrangler w/ Factory Soft Top, Channel Mount, Rampage Products

Also I hear that these tonneau covers stop just short of rear seats. I was wondering if one for an LJ would still fit the TJ but have some extra length to help cover the rest of the rear area, and then fold the excess down towards the floorboards for the rear seat. I will be running it with a safari top and NOT the windjammer & bikini combo so any info would be great.

LilYeller 10-08-2012 06:37 PM

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LilYeller 10-16-2012 03:48 PM

Well I ordered this cover today so I guess I will post up a review here if anyone is interested.

CarolinaBound 10-16-2012 07:30 PM

Definitely would be nice piece to have if it does cover up the whole rear of the tub. Looking forward to the review

Blind Dog 10-16-2012 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LilYeller (Post 2896405)
Well I ordered this cover today so I guess I will post up a review here if anyone is interested.

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LilYeller 10-17-2012 07:13 AM

Well heres the best place to purchase it since it includes shipping. Did alot of research and this is the lowest price.

Rampage Zipper Tonneau Cover 6600115 873563004026 | eBay although it would seem they upped the price from $89.99 to $99.99 recently after I purchased it. So now it may be cheaper elsewhere.

Blind Dog 10-17-2012 08:12 AM

Cool. By the way, what's the "zipper" part of the name? Do you know if it zips onto the side rails instead of the tuck-under tension bar or clip (or whatever you call it) like the back sides of a Jeep soft top? Zippers, up here in the frozen tundra of Iowa, are a real pain in the winter when the fabric is stiff--especially when they get a little snow and ice (and/or dirt) on them. (I went with the tuck-under clip style over the bed of my truck for that reason instead of a zipper type.) ...Just thinking out loud.

NewYJOwner 10-17-2012 09:16 AM

http://i48.tinypic.com/2uizziu.jpg

NewYJOwner 10-17-2012 09:50 AM

http://rampageproducts.com/instructi...-softgoods.pdf

Blind Dog 10-17-2012 07:15 PM

I see...thanks... (I like that weather tight top better too.)

NewYJOwner 10-17-2012 08:51 PM

I have the YJ setup on mine....minus the zippered tonneau, I have a regular tonneau.

http://i43.tinypic.com/10mrnu0.jpg

Blind Dog 10-17-2012 09:06 PM

I bet it's cozy in winter with a smaller space to have to heat.
Can't hardly wait until LilYeller gives his review.

LilYeller 10-23-2012 08:26 PM

Well I got it in today. Nice birthday present that my wife didnt know she bought me lol. I installed it at about 8:30 tonight cause, plain and simple, I couldnt wait till daylight. So there wont be any pics till later tomorrow.

All that being said, on to the install review. The temp is about 80 and the top was about the same. It went on nice and easy. I already have experience with the Rampage frameless top so putting this on was a breeze. Everything went where it was supposed to, fits nice and tight, and zips up and down nice and easy. Not a single complaint with the install portion.

The quality looks to be pretty good, nice thick materials, good sewing on the velcro and zippers. Only complaint here is the zipper pull tab, it seems flimsy but other than that its way better than I expected.

I will drive around with it on for a week or so and give another working review on it but it seems that it will do exactly what I was hoping for it to do. And thats keep my amps dry when Florida decides to throw a flash flood at me. And to have a nice look while still being able to use the rear seat when its time to throw the kids in there and go. I will keep you all posted on this and get some pics up in the am.

Blind Dog 10-23-2012 09:29 PM

I saw your build thread. Love your Jeep, man. Pictures tomorrow?

LilYeller 10-23-2012 09:45 PM

for sure

Diverdown87 10-24-2012 11:39 AM

I am glad I found this thread...Looking forward to your review..I had seen these a few years back in Qtech catalog and then they were gone...I run mine with safari, wrap jammer and regular deck cover and would like this one more since I would not have to open the whole thing to put stuff in the back or take it all the way off if I have a 3rd rider.

Funny how ATJ shows a regular deck cover for the zippered ones ad.....

LilYeller 10-24-2012 02:41 PM

Ok so heres some pics, and a few comments about a huge design flaw I found while converting it to use the rear seat.
The good:

http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/...-00-04_272.jpg
Looks great IMO.

The Bad:
Water pools up on it, this is gonna happen with any top but I think its worse on mine cause I dont have a factory soft top. Apparently this is made to cover all the hardware for the soft top and since I dont have any the top isnt as tight as it seemed last night.
http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/...4-55-54_95.jpg

Also, I read the directions a few times over and cant for the life of me figure out how Im supposed to use the seat belts when this is zippered back. There are no directions in the instructions or comments of any kind about the seat belt. The zipper stops just short of the rollbar and doesnt come disconnected.

http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/...-09-37_645.jpg

This means I have to take the whole Effing thing off just to use the seatbelts and therefore the rear seats anyways... HUGE design flaw and an Epic failure for this product. Now its just as much a PITA as a regular tonneau cover, BUT with more parts to break... Sorry just had to vent for a second. I will keep it for a week or so more just to see how it drives on the highway but then its getting returned.

My final decision is that this is a very cool idea that still needs some kinks worked out. I emailed Rampage to see if theres a fix for this or if Im not doing something right but my hopes are very low at this point. Dont buy this if you want to secure your rear seat passengers, if you dont care about rear seatbelts then this might just work for you.

LilYeller 10-24-2012 02:47 PM

The fix would be if they could just extend those zippers to the velcro that wraps around the rollbar then it would be a perfect product. But GL getting that through their heads. Also after reading their directions and looking at the pics once again, their demo vehicle doesnt even have rear seat belts anyways...

Blind Dog 10-24-2012 06:42 PM

Bummer, but typical of modern design. I am a proponent of industrial designers with specific field experience, rather than engineers in these kinds of cases. Let the engineers do the math as necessary to satisfy the requirements of the designers, rather than engineers designing things they know nothing about. Rant done.

LilYeller 10-24-2012 07:17 PM

How bad does this look? its the only solution I could find that doesnt include cutting the cover.

http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/...-30-16_324.jpg

http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/...-29-53_377.jpg

Not a fan of the seatbelt solution but the cover looks good with the doors on :thumb:

LilYeller 10-24-2012 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind Dog (Post 2922630)
Bummer, but typical of modern design. I am a proponent of industrial designers with specific field experience, rather than engineers in these kinds of cases. Let the engineers do the math as necessary to satisfy the requirements of the designers, rather than engineers designing things they know nothing about. Rant done.


And, uhh... so long as you are saying that people have no business making products for things they dont understand then I couldnt agree more haha.

Blind Dog 10-25-2012 08:37 AM

That's what I'm saying. I'm just now finishing my training (BS Degree) for Production Engineering myself, so I'm not bagging on engineers at all, and have lots of respect for this profession and also my professors who are mostly engineers of various disciplines, but I know a little about how the business works, and often the designers of products are working in the dark as far as actual experience goes.

YHSublime 10-25-2012 09:01 AM

I have the Black Diamond series by Bestop. I know your plan was to be able to use the rear seat and seatbelts without having to remove the tonneau, but I just wanted to say that I have never had problems with water pooling, not like that in your picture anyways. Sorry to hear it didn't work out for you, hopefully they'll take your advice and work out the kinks. Awesome looking Jeep btw!

Diverdown87 10-25-2012 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LilYeller (Post 2922789)
How bad does this look? its the only solution I could find that doesnt include cutting the cover.

http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/...-30-16_324.jpg

http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/...-29-53_377.jpg

Not a fan of the seatbelt solution but the cover looks good with the doors on :thumb:

Looks to me like you would unzip the center section, move the side pieces to expose and move the seat belts, and then replace the side parts when you have riders in back. Not really a big deal just a bit extra work.

As for your pooling problem, mine does that with a non zipped deck cover. I just made a prop out ovf PVC like I did for my safari top. Works ok but the water still gets in the back....LOL

LilYeller 10-25-2012 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diverdown87 (Post 2924680)
Looks to me like you would unzip the center section, move the side pieces to expose and move the seat belts, and then replace the side parts when you have riders in back. Not really a big deal just a bit extra work.

As for your pooling problem, mine does that with a non zipped deck cover. I just made a prop out ovf PVC like I did for my safari top. Works ok but the water still gets in the back....LOL

If I have to do all that then whats the point of having the zippered portion? Thats all I was trying to say. If they are trying to market a cover where you can use the rear seat by just unzipping the middle then they failed to consider the seatbelt issue. Or, the cost of a redesign wasnt in the budget so they put an inferior product on the market. Neither of which gives me any confidence in the company.

As for the water pooling its definately because this is made to be a top boot also, Since I have no top on it and therefore no hardware to hold it in place, its really saggy. Either way its not worth the $89 I spent on it when I can buy a regular tonneau for half that.

Diverdown87 10-25-2012 11:30 AM

I hope you didnt take offence to what I was saying. I agree with your assesment not sure it will deter me from buying it since I am usually solo or only have 1 passenger. I like it for being able to access the back without having to take mine off on one side to put anything in there.

I have the Bestop one that is supposed to be used with the sort top hardware but the first one I had was not. It also pooled when it rained. The only place I have extra material is where the top would go on the back like yours. Is seem that there is no difference between BT's deck cover that is used with or without the top and hardware, at least in the 2 I have owned.

NewYJOwner 10-25-2012 01:07 PM

Water pools on mine as well near the front by where the windjammer portion meets the tonneau. If we have alot of rain I either have to put it in the garage or go out and remove the puddle of water every so often.

I wonder if it would be legal to use the older style lap belts instead of the shoulder belt on the rear seat. You would solve the issue of undoing the tonneau to get the seatbelt usable.

LilYeller 10-25-2012 01:32 PM

Not offended at all. I just wanted to point out that, for me, this top might not be what I need since I use the back seat pretty often and its for my kids so the seatbelt is a must. Otherwise it seems pretty well built and a very easy install.

YHSublime 10-25-2012 03:32 PM

The one consolation is your seat covers are still bad ass!

LilYeller 10-25-2012 04:01 PM

at least that made me smile.


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