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JDT-USCG-94 10-08-2012 11:46 AM

First Jeep
I posted this question in the new members forum and another member suggested I post it here so this is a copy and past from the original post:

My first few questions are:

1. What are the drawbacks to getting the 4 door models? I like the idea of it being 4 full doors for the extra people and potential cargo space but theres the considerable difference in wheelbase and id like to be able to go on mild/moderate trails. What are the commentss everyone has to offer on that?

2. What lift should I get?!?!? I like the simple look of a 2.5" but the added lift height of a 4" seems like its be better for a 4 door jeep. Id like to keep it road worthy because it'll be my daily driver as well! I have two packages im looking at just because of the amount of stuff they come with that are offered from Jeep Parts & Jeep Accessories, Jeep Tops, Jeep Bumpers, Replacement Parts, for Jeep Wrangler CJ Willys - Drive Offroad under Build-A-Jeep specifically the Trail Duster and Rock Rugged. Any input is greatly appreciated guys because im extremely new to the Jeep scene and would like to make sure my first Jeep is a keeper!

Once again I look forward to reading all the post s and talking to everyone throughout the forum!

Daniel_M 10-08-2012 11:54 AM

There are tons of built 4 doors and they go on difficult trails such as King of Hammers and Moab. If you feel like you need the room, get the 4 door and have no worries about it.

As for lifts, depends on your uses. 4" comes into expensive territory, needing to replace control arms for adjustable ones, replacing driveshafts etc...2.5" is plenty high to fit 35's. If you want to run 35's consider getting 4.10 gears or at worst 3.73 gearing. Shop aftermarket, don't get stuff from Jeep or Mopar, they are overpriced, rebranded aftermarket stuff. A lift manufacturer I suggest is Rock Krawler, don't let the name scare you, they are not "rock crawling" lifts, they are some of the best on road and off road preforming suspensions out there. A 2.5" Stock Mod (entry level) or 2.5" Max Travel (butter) would suit a mild build with some great off road ability.

Also call up one of the vendors on board. Jason at Krawl Offroad or Chris at Jeep Addons. Also River City Offroad is great too. I have all their phone numbers, PM me if you like for them. They can usually cut a good deal.

Rock Krawler Suspension, Inc.


rev2red 10-08-2012 12:01 PM

I did not understand your second question so I'm only responding to the first.

The wheelbase is the major difference. This creates a difference in turing radius as well as break over angles. The unlimited will track a bit straighter (less input needed to keep it straight on the freeway) and is more stable at speed. It is also a smoother ride on the freeway. The 2dr is viewed more traditionally as a "true" jeep but since the unlimiteds have been around since what, 2006, is that really the case anymore? Any way, I think you need to focus in what the primary needs will be of the jeep and buy accordingly. If you need the cargo and ease of entry/exit of all 4 drs, then you'll want the unlimited. Otherwise the 2door will provide you plenty of enjoyment. Both models will do fine for mild to moderate trails though stock off the showroom floor.

On a personal note, lifted 4dr look awesome to me but 2dr lifted too much don't look "right."

And welcome to the forum.

JDT-USCG-94 10-08-2012 12:03 PM

I had seen that everyone was pretty well suited with a 2.5" lift but i think in the intrest of in road driving ill stay with a 33 tire. Any suggestions on tires/wheels and i may consider the 35" tires, any suggestions on who to get gears from?

Daniel_M 10-08-2012 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by JDT-USCG-94 (Post 2870590)
I had seen that everyone was pretty well va uited with a 2.5" lift but i think in the intrest of in road driving ill stay with a 33 tire. Any suggestions on tires/wheels and i may consider the 35" tires, any suggestions on who to get gears from?

If you stick with 33's, no need to regear. Still get 3.73 or 4.10 when you buy your Jeep. Wheels and tires are purley up to you. 15, 16 or 17". With a 15" wheel an 33x12.50R15 being a less expensive tire than that same size for 17's. A popular tire is the Goodyear Duratrac and it's cousin Kelly Safari TSR.


Abdul-Hakeem 10-08-2012 12:10 PM

If you live near desert (don't know):

The 2-door is better for sharp sand dunes, it's easier to escape having the middle stuck and 4 spinning tires, but 4-door is really not bad. If faced with sharp dunes in a 4-door, you may need to drive a little faster to put the middle over.

JDT-USCG-94 10-08-2012 01:18 PM

Thanks for the info guys!

Plasticpirogue 10-08-2012 01:47 PM

The 2dr vs. 4dr argument will go on forever. The shorter 2dr is going to have less space, poorer road manners, and a choppier ride, BUT it's also the more traditional platform, is extremely agile (even compared to other small/short SUVs), looks better with less lift & smaller rubber than a 4dr with the same mods (meaning it's less costly to get the same "look"). Only on the tightest trails will the 2dr really out maneuver the longer Unlimited. Do you really give up anything with the 4dr? No, not really. But most 2dr fans (myself included) will tell you that many of the "intangibles" make up for the lack of space. The agility, history/tradition, and a bit more "spirited" driving feel are what I really like about my JK; those attributes are more important (to me) than being a more capable family or cargo hauler. I just wish you could get a JK long wheelbase 2dr in this country....'cause I would own one.

JDT-USCG-94 10-08-2012 02:14 PM

You made a lot of really valid points for a 2 door jeep. I myself love the 2 doors but realize I'm going to have to compromise somewhere on something.

Plasticpirogue 10-08-2012 03:31 PM

Honestly, you can't go wrong with either.

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