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M0K11 10-09-2012 04:01 PM

Aftermarket CAI + Exhaust
 
First off, I've read a lot of threads about cold air intakes and exhausts on here. I'll tell you what I know so far and then I'll ask what I want to know and then hopefully I'll get some help....whether referral to a thread I missed or an answer here :hide:

What I drive: 2012 Wrangler Sahara 2Door (new pentastar 3.6L V6) :punk:

What I know: CAI on the new model dont change much performance wise just sound and thats fine by me (the new engine is improved anyways)....I also know installing a CAI by itself is pretty much worthless if you cant have an equal and/or better amount of airflow at the exit (exhaust) which is why I'm asking about the best combination of both :cool:

What I'm looking for: what I am looking for is a nice rumbling sound (like the hemi or supercharged american muscle) without the drone. What brands (CAI and exhaust) is the best combination for a droneless yet deep sound. Also, if possible, I would like to hear the sound at start-up, idle, cruise, AND acceleration.....not just one or the other (thats if its possible) :confused:


So far I've come up with an Airaid dry CAI system and Borla catback exhaust system.....what do you guys think/suggest?

Lastly, I do not want to remove the resonator......please


Looking forward to hearing from you......thanks in advance for your help and I appreciate you taking your time to read and comment :)

Boobicon 10-09-2012 04:04 PM

Banks power pack !! Intake, headers, and cat back exhaust sounds amazing. Plus increased hp

Boobicon 10-09-2012 04:11 PM

Sorry they changed it to the banks stinger system for the JK's doesn't include the header

M0K11 10-09-2012 04:43 PM

Cool....will check it out, thanks!

GiantSchnauzer 10-10-2012 06:16 AM

check out www.AEV.ae website, they have some new cai in for 2012 wranglers. i personally went with the RIPP one because it fits with my snorkel.:wavey:

M0K11 10-10-2012 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by GiantSchnauzer (Post 2876257)
check out www.AEV.ae website, they have some new cai in for 2012 wranglers. i personally went with the RIPP one because it fits with my snorkel.:wavey:

snorkel in dubai?!? is there that much water fording :confused: unless you get away to oman and hatta a lot! thanks for the help, i'll check it out.....any audio/video clips of the CAI on your ride?

rics1997 10-10-2012 08:12 AM

One thing to think about too is the fact that your Jeep can go topless. I wanted a better sound and went with the flowmaster 40 after some recommendations. It sounded alright and was louder for sure but once summer hit and I took the top off the FM40 was intolerable especially to passengers. Never did really notice it with the top on.

I had to have it removed and was in a rush of sorts, The original muffler shop said they would replace it for free but with the cheap Turbo Thrush muffler until I figured out what I wanted.

Have to say that the little Thrush on my Jeep is a great sounded muffler. Surprised me. It has a nice low ruble when you get on the gas but not too loud and is gets more quiet during cruising speeds which helps with the top off but not wimpy just a little more quiet.

M0K11 10-11-2012 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rics1997 (Post 2876400)
One thing to think about too is the fact that your Jeep can go topless. I wanted a better sound and went with the flowmaster 40 after some recommendations. It sounded alright and was louder for sure but once summer hit and I took the top off the FM40 was intolerable especially to passengers. Never did really notice it with the top on.

I had to have it removed and was in a rush of sorts, The original muffler shop said they would replace it for free but with the cheap Turbo Thrush muffler until I figured out what I wanted.

Have to say that the little Thrush on my Jeep is a great sounded muffler. Surprised me. It has a nice low ruble when you get on the gas but not too loud and is gets more quiet during cruising speeds which helps with the top off but not wimpy just a little more quiet.

You're absolutely right......i never thought of that! thanks for the heads up :thumb:

GiantSchnauzer 10-11-2012 08:43 AM

dont have a vid, but seeing that you are in the greens or greens comunity why not just pass by for a beer and have a look first hand. I live in the springs so super close. its the weekend in a hour anyways, so just pm me:thumb:

oilwell1415 10-11-2012 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by M0K11 (Post 2874280)
What I'm looking for: what I am looking for is a nice rumbling sound (like the hemi or supercharged american muscle) without the drone.

If this is the sound you are looking for you will find nothing but diappointment in the 3.6. It is a V6 and it is always going to sound like one. No exhuast system will change that.

daggo66 10-11-2012 08:49 AM

I'll be running a Cai in just a few weeks until about mid march as I do each year.

M0K11 10-11-2012 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by oilwell1415 (Post 2879897)
If this is the sound you are looking for you will find nothing but diappointment in the 3.6. It is a V6 and it is always going to sound like one. No exhuast system will change that.

I'm sure i can still manage to get a bit of a growl out of it :confused: i hope :rolleyes:

WXman 10-11-2012 09:30 AM

The Banks CAI has a very stock-ish resonator appendage molded onto the intake tube to reduce noise. Stay away from that kit.

I've used the AFE and Airaid kits both...and both sound great. But I love the Airaid kit better because you can run the airbox open or sealed for protection...your choice.

In addition to the sound, the engine response becomes MUCH more linear and it just feels so much better, especially with the manual transmission. I would hate to go back to stock.

M0K11 10-11-2012 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by daggo66 (Post 2879913)
I'll be running a Cai in just a few weeks until about mid march as I do each year.

Mind me asking why the limited time period?!

M0K11 10-11-2012 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by WXman (Post 2880021)
The Banks CAI has a very stock-ish resonator appendage molded onto the intake tube to reduce noise. Stay away from that kit.

I've used the AFE and Airaid kits both...and both sound great. But I love the Airaid kit better because you can run the airbox open or sealed for protection...your choice.

In addition to the sound, the engine response becomes MUCH more linear and it just feels so much better, especially with the manual transmission. I would hate to go back to stock.

Thanks man.....its decided, Airaid CAI system it is! the exhaust will have to wait until the next savings :p

Mopar2Ya 10-11-2012 09:36 AM

Another choice for CAI is Volant, & they offer it w/a dry Donaldson PowerCore filter. I'm not a fan of the Banks CAI due to the muffler thing dangling off it. aFe makes a complete cat back exhaust including the Y-pipe.

M0K11 10-11-2012 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mopar2Ya (Post 2880043)
Another choice for CAI is Volant, & they offer it w/a dry Donaldson PowerCore filter. I'm not a fan of the Banks CAI due to the muffler thing dangling off it. aFe makes a complete cat back exhaust including the Y-pipe.

The new Airaid for the 2012 JK also comes dry non-oiled and i personally like its sound better than volant......I like K&N the best but it doesn't have a full box around the filter and its not dry run so i'll just compromise :whistling:

oilwell1415 10-11-2012 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by M0K11 (Post 2880013)
I'm sure i can still manage to get a bit of a growl out of it :confused: i hope :rolleyes:

You can make it louder and you can change the tone with muffler tuning, but it's not going to sound like a Hemi or a supercharged American muscle car. Ever.

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Originally Posted by M0K11 (Post 2880025)
Mind me asking why the limited time period?!

Because the rest of the year the air outside is hot.

M0K11 10-11-2012 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by oilwell1415 (Post 2880075)
You can make it louder and you can change the tone with muffler tuning, but it's not going to sound like a Hemi or a supercharged American muscle car. Ever.



Because the rest of the year the air outside is hot.

What i meant with the reference to the american muscle/hemi engine is the growl......i wanna hear it growl!!!! :(

Mopar2Ya 10-11-2012 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by M0K11 (Post 2880054)
The new Airaid for the 2012 JK also comes dry non-oiled and i personally like its sound better than volant......I like K&N the best but it doesn't have a full box around the filter and its not dry run so i'll just compromise :whistling:

IMO, there are pro/cons to the different set ups. AirRaid wants you to cut up your oem box then rivet it on the CAI, but may be the best choice for water crossing. The Volant is the only CAI available w/the Donaldson PowerCore filter.
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Originally Posted by M0K11 (Post 2880112)
What i meant with the reference to the american muscle/hemi engine is the growl......i wanna hear it growl!!!! :(

No exhaust will make the V6 sound like a V8. I have the aFe set up, & I like it, but it isn't a V8 growl.

M0K11 10-11-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mopar2Ya (Post 2880170)
IMO, there are pro/cons to the different set ups. AirRaid wants you to cut up your oem box then rivet it on the CAI, but may be the best choice for water crossing. The Volant is the only CAI available w/the Donaldson PowerCore filter.

No exhaust will make the V6 sound like a V8. I have the aFe set up, & I like it, but it isn't a V8 growl.

Fair enough, does the aFe set up come with a box to cover it up?! and is it a dry filter?!?

Mopar2Ya 10-11-2012 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by M0K11 (Post 2880182)
Fair enough, does the aFe set up come with a box to cover it up?! and is it a dry filter?!?

I don't have the aFe CAI, just the exhaust, but no the aFe CAI is open(no box). I'm also in the decision making process on a CAI, so far I'm leaning towards Volant.

M0K11 10-11-2012 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mopar2Ya (Post 2880192)
I don't have the aFe CAI, just the exhaust, but no the aFe CAI is open(no box). I'm also in the decision making process on a CAI, so far I'm leaning towards Volant.

Oh I see......i'll look into their exhaust system then :thumb:

bloodfart 10-11-2012 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by M0K11

What i meant with the reference to the american muscle/hemi engine is the growl......i wanna hear it growl!!!! :(

Remove the stock muffler, add just exhaust tips in it's place, and install a resonator. Worked for me very well on all the cars i've owned, because you not only remove the huge obstruction which is the muffler, out of the way, but you also get a not too loud deep rumble sound. From personal experience, almost all high flow mufflers will be louder than running this. Haven't done it in the jeep yet because i like to have ONE car that isn't all about going mad fast and bleeding ear drums ;) i'm sure though that someone has tried it and will chime in

M0K11 10-11-2012 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bloodfart (Post 2880348)
Remove the stock muffler, add just exhaust tips in it's place, and install a resonator. Worked for me very well on all the cars i've owned, because you not only remove the huge obstruction which is the muffler, out of the way, but you also get a not too loud deep rumble sound. From personal experience, almost all high flow mufflers will be louder than running this. Haven't done it in the jeep yet because i like to have ONE car that isn't all about going mad fast and bleeding ear drums ;) i'm sure though that someone has tried it and will chime in

Thats something new! sounds interesting though :thumb:

pluke the 2 10-11-2012 02:04 PM

loud yes.

obnoxious, yes.

gas mileage before and after

11 mpgs

Jeep JK, 2010,MBRP,CAI,TB,Jet&Superchip,513s - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2lhS...9&feature=plcp


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