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Six 10-18-2012 09:39 AM

Racho 9000xl vs. Fox 2.0
 
Anyone have experience with both of these? I'm just wondering what's the pros and cons of each.

Also, if I did go with the Rancho shocks, which should I purchase? I have a RK 2.5" lift but I'm probably going to go higher in the future. Are the 29/30's with just under RK's recommended 27" extension fine or should I go with the 31/32 combo that's a bit over the 27" Is there going to be a big difference?

enjerhoo 10-18-2012 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Six (Post 2902480)
Anyone have experience with both of these? I'm just wondering what's the pros and cons of each.

Also, if I did go with the Rancho shocks, which should I purchase? I have a RK 2.5" lift but I'm probably going to go higher in the future. Are the 29/30's with just under RK's recommended 27" extension fine or should I go with the 31/32 combo that's a bit over the 27" Is there going to be a big difference?

Kjeeper10 has a special affinity for the 9000xl's

When I am ready, the adjustability sounds like a big plus so that will be my choice

kjeeper10 10-18-2012 10:06 AM

:whistling:

Hello, my names ken and I love my 9000's

Really can't go wrong with a adjustable shock :thumb:

Six 10-18-2012 10:22 AM

What about the lengths?

KrawlOff-Road.com 10-18-2012 10:23 AM

I run the Fox IFP 2.0's. They are a great shock. Plus, with the RK 2.5" lifts that ou are running, we run a longer shock as well. We usually do the 4-6" lift height with these. We have had zero complants about them!

-Jason

kjeeper10 10-18-2012 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Six
What about the lengths?

RK recs 27" front and 26" rear.

I run the 4" long arm fronts which are 27" plus and 4" short arms which are 26"
31xl and 29XL

COStrider 10-18-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10

RK recs 27" front and 26" rear.

Do you run manual control or wireless control ranchos

Six 10-18-2012 10:40 AM

Why not the 32 in the rear?

VASYLfromUKRAINE 10-18-2012 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Six
Anyone have experience with both of these? I'm just wondering what's the pros and cons of each.

Also, if I did go with the Rancho shocks, which should I purchase? I have a RK 2.5" lift but I'm probably going to go higher in the future. Are the 29/30's with just under RK's recommended 27" extension fine or should I go with the 31/32 combo that's a bit over the 27" Is there going to be a big difference?

subscribe. very interesting Q!!!

kjeeper10 10-18-2012 10:54 AM

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I did not want to exceed RK'S rear extended max length of 26"

The front 31's are 27.3 and rear 30's are 26" according to this chart.

Works out perfectly to RK's recommendations

In most cases the 29 and 30 will be fine for
2.5"

kjeeper10 10-18-2012 10:55 AM

Basically asking if 27" is ok for the rear ?

That I don't know :)

kjeeper10 10-18-2012 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by COStrider

Do you run manual control or wireless control ranchos

Manual. Takes less then a minute to adjust
Plus I hear story's of air leaks within the lines that control the shock adjustment.
Plus it's like $200 :eek:

Six 10-18-2012 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 2902738)
Basically asking if 27" is ok for the rear ?

That I don't know :)

OK, so I think this will be the last piece of the puzzle. If you can't have exact extension and collapse numbers, is it better to be outside the suggested range or inside? Does this apply for extended and collapsed?

Like say it's 16-27 reccomended, would it be better to buy a 15.5-27.5 shock, a 16.5-26.5 shock, a 16.5-27.5 shock, or a 15.5-26.5 shock?

From what I've read, I'll be getting more than 2.5" with a jeep that has no aftermarket parts. Eventually I'm going to get the 3.5" lift, bumpers, new wheels and tires, a winch, and a kitchen sink, but for now with just the RK 2.5", people have been quoting larger numbers with a lift in similar circumstances.

kjeeper10 10-18-2012 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Six

OK, so I think this will be the last piece of the puzzle. If you can't have exact extension and collapse numbers, is it better to be outside the suggested range or inside? Does this apply for extended and collapsed?

Like say it's 16-27 reccomended, would it be better to buy a 15.5-27.5 shock, a 16.5-26.5 shock, a 16.5-27.5 shock, or a 15.5-26.5 shock?

From what I've read, I'll be getting more than 2.5" with a jeep that has no aftermarket parts. Eventually I'm going to get the 3.5" lift, bumpers, new wheels and tires, a winch, and a kitchen sink, but for now with just the RK 2.5", people have been quoting larger numbers with a lift in similar circumstances.

Well that's just a number (27" 26")

Collapsed will depend on the proper bumpstop heights I believe. Limiting straps will prevent from overextending. I don't know how RK got those numbers.
I would be more concerned with collapsed length then extended. Then again, it's a $75 shock. One goes boom- replace it.
Kill a $800 shock :eek:

Some people run 11" 12" total travel shocks on smaller lifts for travel. The rig would have to be setup for this.

kramer2k 10-18-2012 11:27 AM

I went with Jason's recommendation and got the Fox IFP 2.0 (4"-6" lift) and am very happy with them so far. They're heavy duty and a very stout product so far. They're a little firmer than stock, but I like that "truck" feel.

Six 10-18-2012 11:32 AM

I went ahead and ordered your setup of the 30/31.

I was interested in the Fox shocks, but I was a bit leary about the ride. I've been in another lifted jeep and it was like riding on boards. I really didn't want to get stuck with a ride I didn't like and I liked having the adjustability on the coilovers in my previous VWs, so that swayed me in the direction of the ranchos.

kjeeper10 10-18-2012 12:41 PM

Suckers !!!!! Rofl

2 door/4 door, style coils, weight will all play a part in ride.

I tried the popular Bilsteins on my 2 door and hated the ride. Even on a softer with the Softer setting it still rides like a jeep. Still has the truck feel without the harshness.
I used the stock bushings up top rather than the very stiff red ones they provide. I don't know if it makes a difference or not.

Post up when you get them on.

The Korean 10-18-2012 11:22 PM

Youll love the ranchos... PO put these on with the wireless controller and have zero complaints... plus the adjustable dampening is awesome, subtle, but definitely noticeable. When i get around to buying a lift ill be sticking with these.

chim-chim7 10-18-2012 11:48 PM

Ranchos are nice, but I would rather have a custom valved Fox shock directly from the Fox R&D shop. Problem is price. I run the Bilsteins and they work great for the heavy unlimited. I hear they are a little stiff on the 2 door.

Six 10-19-2012 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by chim-chim7 (Post 2905030)
Ranchos are nice, but I would rather have a custom valved Fox shock directly from the Fox R&D shop. Problem is price. I run the Bilsteins and they work great for the heavy unlimited. I hear they are a little stiff on the 2 door.

I want Fox shocks with the resevior and adjustibility, but $300 for a set of shocks vs. $800 is a bit much when I may have to upgrade in the future.

VASYLfromUKRAINE 10-19-2012 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Six

I want Fox shocks with the resevior and adjustibility, but $300 for a set of shocks vs. $800 is a bit much when I may have to upgrade in the future.

http://www.fourwheeler.com/techartic.../photo_06.html
how about this 1

kjeeper10 10-19-2012 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by chim-chim7
Ranchos are nice, but I would rather have a custom valved Fox shock directly from the Fox R&D shop. Problem is price. I run the Bilsteins and they work great for the heavy unlimited. I hear they are a little stiff on the 2 door.

I just don't see the point in a $300 or $800 shock unless you are running high speeds off road. Or want a pretty "looking" shock.
I love the Rancho's, and for $75-$100 you smash one or it breaks for some reason --just replace it.
Along with a 9 way adjustment :thumb:

By far my best mod.

As far as the Bilsteins- they did ride harsh on my 2 door. So did the TF 9550's I tried.
level 9 is still softer than both of them. I felt every bump in the road :(

kjeeper10 10-19-2012 10:25 AM

Somebody just posted, Amazon rs9000xl shocks for $87 each.
Add the rebate :thumb:

Six 10-19-2012 10:37 AM

ABout $261 for an entire set. That was another incentive.

shotzy 02-04-2014 08:46 AM

Just wanted to bump this thread to see peoples long term comparisons

mxman122 02-04-2014 09:13 AM

I ordered the Rancho's yesterday. I currently run the Pro Comp ES9000 and hate them. What are the best settings for the Ranchos's ?

machz 02-04-2014 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mxman122 (Post 7978081)
I ordered the Rancho's yesterday. I currently run the Pro Comp ES9000 and hate them. What are the best settings for the Ranchos's ?


I ran then at 5 on the road until the frost heaves set in now I run them at 3. Off road I run them stiff around 9.

I love these shocks, I can dial them in for any situation and it really changes the ride.

HK_Runner 02-04-2014 10:31 AM

After maybe 3-4 months, the 5100s seemed to become softer on my 2-door. They dampen fast/hard hits better than anything I have tried so far. So, I kept them and will toss them on the 4-door if/when I lift. A friend used the 5100s for a while and is now trying the adjustable Ranchos. Waiting for his comparo....

GCDMD 02-04-2014 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HK_Runner (Post 7979889)
After maybe 3-4 months, the 5100s seemed to become softer on my 2-door. They dampen fast/hard hits better than anything I have tried so far. So, I kept them and will toss them on the 4-door if/when I lift. A friend used the 5100s for a while and is now trying the adjustable Ranchos. Waiting for his comparo....

My 6 month old 5100s are quite a bit softer now than when new too. It's been a great shock so far with reliable results. Did you take the boots off of yours or keep them on? With all of the sand in my region, I'm concerned about trapping sand/ debris in there.

HK_Runner 02-04-2014 11:43 AM

I took the boots off, as do most here in Colorado. Too much sandy granite to risk trapping in the boots.


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