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rfields576 06-26-2008 02:31 AM

Problems refueling?
 
I have a '05 Wrangler Ruby Unlimited and have noticed since owning it the past year that refueling is a problem. What I mean is that when the tank gets close to topping off, fuel will spill out of the tank. The automatic shutoff from the refueling hose / nozzle does not stop pumping like it should. When I being my other vehicle (non-Jeep) to the same tank, same nozzle, it works fine.

Does anyone experience the same problem? What I do to alleviate that is just slow down the pumping to a mere trickle which allows a stop to the nozzle.

Thanks for checking this out.

Also, I get about 13 - 14 gallons to the mile...I mean miles to the gallon.:rolleyes:

Unheroic Hero 06-26-2008 05:59 AM

Try turning the nozzle sideways and see if it will go in a little more. If the nozzle isn't in the tank all the way, I don't think that it will cut off when it's full.

cavediverjc 06-26-2008 12:01 PM

Hey bro, my 2005 does the same thing. Even turning the nozzle sideways doesn't work (on mine, it might on yours). What I do is listen for the change in pitch of the fuel going into my tank. It'll sound different. Then I slow down the flow and pump manually unti it's full. It's all about the sound. Hope this helps.

JCS05Rubi 06-26-2008 01:09 PM

My 97 sport, and my 2005 Rubicon do the same thing. Jeep did a crappy job when they designed that fuel neck. Its almost a 50/50 shot when you buy a Jeep if it will do it or not :)

Anyway, some stations work better than others, and I also use CaveDivers method myself. Works ok as long as you are paying attention and don't zone out.

BTW, my SWB Rubicon 6spd gets about 15 mpg average with the top on, so I would say 13-14 for an unlimited is just about right. With the 4.11s and the heavy MT/Rs, our gas mileage falls far short of a normal 4.0 Sport/X/Sahara.

mr4x4 06-26-2008 01:36 PM

mine cuts off on its own but my dads 2000 sport doesnt cut off on its own

Triple88a 06-26-2008 02:06 PM

depends on how you put the hose in there. If you have it too far out, it will overfill. If you put it in all the way, it shuts off so put it in there just a bit pulled out.

G54 07-01-2008 07:35 PM

Ditto post #3. And just in case - don't forget to flip the cap over the nozzle or your hands will smell like gas after you screw it back on.

Coyote_94YJ 07-02-2008 01:07 AM

Man, thats the exact opposite of mine. When I refuel mine the thing is clicking off all the time. Kind of a PITA. Well now that I think of it since I did the body lift it hasn't done it.

debruins 07-02-2008 07:59 AM

yeah mine clicks off all the time, i actually have to have it half out for it to work, if it put it all the way it the thing wont pump at all

tazmann910 07-02-2008 02:05 PM

<Insert obscene sex comment here> :rofl::rofl:

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Originally Posted by debruins (Post 242581)
yeah mine clicks off all the time, i actually have to have it half out for it to work, if it put it all the way it the thing wont pump at all


Triple88a 07-02-2008 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by coyote_94yj (Post 242554)
Man, thats the exact opposite of mine. When I refuel mine the thing is clicking off all the time. Kind of a PITA. Well now that I think of it since I did the body lift it hasn't done it.

Stick it in halfway dude :wavey:, the hole on your rear is too small for it :zap:






oh carp i em strating to saound lake Derek nuw :banghead:

Coyote_94YJ 07-02-2008 07:00 PM

Mine doesn't do it anymore since I did the body lift.

And how would you know what the size of the hole on my rear is??? :eek:

Triple88a 07-02-2008 07:17 PM

lol if it doesnt work with it all the way in, then it doesnt fit. You have enlarged your hole so that's why yours works now.

Coyote_94YJ 07-02-2008 07:30 PM

Uhhh...I don't follow your logic. How can the inlet hole get larger if all I did was put more distance between the body and frame. I never touched the filler neck or the tank inlet. The reason (I assume) that mine works fine now is the connecting hoses are straighter and no longer have a sharp bend in them. Theres no way the hole just gets bigger, unless your talking about something else and if so...Thats just icky man!!!

Triple88a 07-02-2008 08:08 PM

lol your hole is now deeper and straighter :wavey:

debruins 07-02-2008 08:16 PM

my god

tazmann910 07-02-2008 10:11 PM

This can go so many different directions.

Coyote_94YJ 07-02-2008 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by debruins (Post 242708)
my god

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You have no idea how hard I laughed when I saw your post.

Taz - No. Its only supposed to go one way.

tazmann910 07-02-2008 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by coyote_94yj (Post 242736)
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You have no idea how hard I laughed when I saw your post.

Taz - No. Its only supposed to go one way.

This is true.

RUBI 4 MY MRS 04-17-2011 04:00 PM

I’m hoping for another push to get the TJs included for extended gas tank warranties like the ’07 &’08 JKs recently got. I have over 325 handles of TJ owners that have complained of fuel spill out when they fill up. These come from the various threads on various forums. Some have filed complaints, some I’m sure haven’t. Let’s all file or re-file. I will continue to add to my list.

If anyone has this problem but has not posted, please do so. We need to know how many TJs are actually having this problem. I know there are always suggestions for work-arounds but please don’t post them here. We want to actually get this resolved.

To help spread the word, I made up some business size cards & carry several everywhere I go. Anytime I see a TJ in a parking lot, I leave one on the windshield. It just asks them if they are having this problem & if so directs them to one of these forums. I hope others will do the same.

The most discouraging thing is that Chrysler has more than doubled the price of replacement tanks. If anyone can verify that they have improved or redesigned the inlet check valve (ICV) let me know. It was supposed to have happened in Feb.

Check valve (ICV) manufactured by Alfmeier.

Also worth noting that while the ’03-’06 TJ tank now lists for $914.00 (last previous price I could find was $427.00), the JK tank lists for $192.00 (2dr) & $265.00 (4dr). All from mopar-wholesale.com (their prices are $630.20, $132.25, & $182.85 respectively)


..and here is the PART NUMBER to the latest Fuel Tank:

52059617-AG COST: $341.60 RETAIL: $427.00

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Item Number MSRP Core Price Price
52059617AG $914.00 $0.00 $630.20
Fuel system - Fuel system components - Fuel tank
Fuel tank - 2003-06 2005 - 2006


Item Number MSRP Core Price Price
52059718AH $192.00 $0.00 $132.25
Fuel system - Fuel system components - Fuel tank - 2 door
2 door 2010 - 2011

Item Number MSRP Core Price Price
52059729AG $265.00 $0.00 $182.85
Fuel system - Fuel system components - Fuel tank - 4 door
4 door 2009 – 2010


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