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Zjones1994 10-25-2012 12:00 PM

3rd brake light
 
I have a 33x12.5 on the stock carrier (for now) and i was wondering how to raise the 3rd brak light up? Also the tire shoves the 3rd brake light close to the windshield and my windshield wiper gets stuck. Any advice?

Enemy 10-25-2012 12:07 PM

remove 3rd brakelight and get one that fits on center cap!

Water Dog 10-25-2012 12:10 PM

I just got rid of mine.....shhh, don't tell.

Zjones1994 10-25-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Enemy
remove 3rd brakelight and get one that fits on center cap!

Im thinking of doing same. Did you use any particular write up?

ed98208 10-25-2012 12:20 PM

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My 31" spare doesn't fit so I just bought one of these sets on eBay ($47) for both extending the spare tire mount and raising the third light. I assume it'll hold the tire out far enough to allow the wiper to move freely, too. We'll find out when it gets here.

Zjones1994 10-25-2012 12:28 PM

Problem with those is (for 33s, 31 youl be fine) is it puts more weight out and will cause even more stress on the tailgate hinges. I really need to upgrade to some kentrol black ss onee but they arnt cheap.

Jerry Bransford 10-25-2012 12:55 PM

A 33" tire only requires the 3rd brake light sit up about 1" taller to clear it. You can easily take care of that with $1-2 worth of longer screws and three 1" spacers available at any hardware store. Remove one of the screws and match its thread size up at the hardware store with 1" longer versions which will likely be metric. They'll have 1" spacers too, that's all you need.

Personally, with all the drug and alcohol impaired or inattentive drivers on the road, I'm a strong believer in the 3rd brake light whether it is required by state law or not. Anything to help those inattentive/impaired drivers see my Jeep easier and that I'm on my brakes sooner is a good thing in my book.

Neil F. 10-25-2012 12:57 PM

- Myself and others have been carring oversize spares for years without tailgate issues (myself 5 years 33x12.5)

- All you need to do is make a few spacers out of anything (washers, pipe, tubing, wood) to rause it up. No big deal. When I had my thirs brake light, without raising it, my tire did not get in the way.

Jerry Bransford 10-25-2012 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ed98208 (Post 2925050)
My 31" spare doesn't fit so I just bought one of these sets on eBay ($47) for both extending the spare tire mount and raising the third light. I assume it'll hold the tire out far enough to allow the wiper to move freely, too. We'll find out when it gets here.

In my personal opinion, extenders like that are bad news. They help bigger tires clear of course but that they move the tire further away from the tailgate also give the heavier tire a significantly increased amount of leverage against the tailgate, its hinges, and the tub which will only create problems down the road. I never recommend anything like that for larger spare tires. If the spare won't fit as is, I recommend an aftermarket spare tire carrier.

And that you say your 31" spare won't fit is a mystery. The Rubicon comes with the metric equivalent to 31" tires from the factory and it uses the same spare tire mount your TJ has.

Neil F. 10-25-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ed98208 (Post 2925050)
My 31" spare doesn't fit so I just bought one of these sets on eBay ($47) for both extending the spare tire mount and raising the third light. I assume it'll hold the tire out far enough to allow the wiper to move freely, too. We'll find out when it gets here.

If you move the spare out, you NEED to keep the rubber bumpers tight against the tire (space them out also) The bouncing around without them making contact is also what damages the tailgate and stock carrier. Pushing it out puts even more leverage on the tailgate/carrier.

Neil F. 10-25-2012 01:02 PM

Stop it Jerry. You are too fast for me with the same points!

ed98208 10-25-2012 01:06 PM

Thanks for the advice. The lack of fit was per the guys at the tire store...I'm not sure how much of a clearance problem there is. When the kit arrives I'll raise up the third light first and if the tire's still hitting the bumper I'll see if I can get away with longer screws/a few washers to minimize the extension, or look into a new mount altogether.

530ktm 10-25-2012 04:07 PM

I made my spacers for the 3rd light out of pvc pipe and longer bolts. :thumb:

BulldawgJeepin 10-25-2012 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Zjones1994
I have a 33x12.5 on the stock carrier (for now) and i was wondering how to raise the 3rd brak light up? Also the tire shoves the 3rd brake light close to the windshield and my windshield wiper gets stuck. Any advice?

I did the third brake light in the center cap of my spare. LED from Oreillys and about thirty minutes and I was done. I put my center cap on a lathe and bored the hole that way but I'm sure a hole saw or a jigsaw with a steady hand will work just as well.

Zjones1994 10-25-2012 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BulldawgJeepin

I did the third brake light in the center cap of my spare. LED from Oreillys and about thirty minutes and I was done. I put my center cap on a lathe and bored the hole that way but I'm sure a hole saw or a jigsaw with a steady hand will work just as well.

I did it this afternoon. It was a 2.5" 4 led from pilot. That and the 2 pin connector cost me 14$ and about 1 hr of my time.

Water Dog 10-29-2012 03:58 PM

Okay....You guys shamed me into doing it..!:surrender:

BulldawgJeepin 10-29-2012 05:45 PM

^^Looks great! Peer pressure is a b...

Bobs Jeep 10-29-2012 06:36 PM

The bolts on my third brake light bracket were long enough already. I loosen them, stuck a scrap piece of 1 X 4 board under the bracket and tighten it down. Added some hockey pucks to move the rubber snubbers out and called it a day.

Sccafire 10-30-2012 12:55 PM

For those of you in CA a third brake light is not required. CA consideres the third brake light as a supplemental light. I have not had mine on for 7 years. I did some reseach on this when I removed mine to make sure it was legal. On anoither forum someone asked CHP because they wanted to make sure what I found was right. CHP told them the same thing I did.

Jerry Bransford 10-30-2012 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sccafire (Post 2942549)
For those of you in CA a third brake light is not required. CA consideres the third brake light as a supplemental light. I have not had mine on for 7 years. I did some reseach on this when I removed mine to make sure it was legal. On anoither forum someone asked CHP because they wanted to make sure what I found was right. CHP told them the same thing I did.

True, and I live in CA myself, but I go by what I said in my second paragraph in post #7 above... with all the drunk, drug-impaired, and simply inattentive drivers all around us, I like having that 3rd brake light. It simply gives those problem drivers a much more visible brake light to notice when I have put my brakes on. I personally strongly believe that 3rd brake light does reduce accidents and I prefer it being there whether or not it is legally required. :)

Blind Dog 10-30-2012 02:53 PM

I agree. Drivers have learned to expect and subconsciously look for a third brake light.
I fabricated my whole third light and mount because it was not there at all when I got the Jeep.

StephTech 11-10-2012 01:48 PM

Floating 3rd Brake Light
 
My 3rd brake light relocation started with painting more of the black parts on my Wrangler. While searching the forums for how to disassemble the 3rd brake light, I came across this post which of course changed my plans...

I bought the same light (4" sealed running board light - Blazer part #C535R), but instead of the angle brackets, I decided to use a leftover piece of lexan we had. Fortunately, the 3rd brake light mount was very easy to take off my TJ, just 4 bolts and pull the wiring.

By making paper templates first, tracing the inside of the spare, and a bit of trial and error, I came up with my plastic bracket. I think this lexan is my new favorite material to work with! Cut with my dremel, drill bits, and paddle bits, then I filed and sanded the edges. The two large holes at the bottom fit tightly over the heads of the wheel mount, so only one hole needed to be drilled to bolt the new light bracket in place:
http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm..._bracket_1.jpg

Mounted the new light onto the new bracket, using a center hole to pull the wires through:
http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm..._bracket_2.jpg
http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm..._bracket_3.jpg
http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm..._bracket_4.jpg
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MarkinOhio 11-10-2012 01:57 PM

Very nice work, folks.
 
You guys and gals are very creative. :punk:

pcwolf 11-12-2012 12:58 AM

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Dump the ugly thing entirely

ericagodwin 11-12-2012 02:09 AM

I assume it'll hold the tire out far enough to allow the wiper to move freelyhttp://www.pqnw.info/a114.jpg

lynn 11-12-2012 10:42 AM

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76...LJSwing021.jpg

BostonJohn 11-12-2012 02:31 PM

I'd like to remove the spare tire carrier and akward 3rd brake light. Since I won't have a spare mounted to relocate the brakelight i've been toying with doing something like this:

Rampage Products 960135 - Rampage Products 49" L.E.D. Tailgate Light Bar for 07-12 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec

It would be mounted a bit lower but definately visable.


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