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ExDementia 07-13-2008 07:27 PM

how important are bead locks?
 
when i bought my jeep the guy said the rims on it were real bead locks, a few days later i looked it up and found that they were not, i dont like the look of the red ring around my rim and i feel gay riding around with fake bead locks on so i was thinking about buying new rims when i buy new tires, just some dirt cheap but effective procomp crawler rims. one of my friends is trying to convince me to pay almost double and get real bead locks, just how important are they anyway? i know that you need them if you air down to like 5 or below PSI but how often do you need to do that? the most i ever go is about 10-12 and that seems like plenty

jpdocdave 07-13-2008 08:01 PM

i doubt you need real bead locks, and most people don't know how to install them and maintain them. the fake ones don't look bad sometimes anyway. real bead locks are very pricey and most people don't need them.

payj90 07-13-2008 08:11 PM

i think most bead locks arent DOT approved either.

nicolas-eric 07-13-2008 08:13 PM

if you want to drive off the road with really low tire pressure you need them.
with 10 psi i had no problem without beadlocks. but my friends with bead locks and 4 psi had much more traction.
5 staun internal bead locks are the next things iīll buy for my tj.

4Jeepn 07-13-2008 08:24 PM

Unless you have $$ burning a hole in your pocket, or your rig is really built and you compete with it, or you just really have to have them, you don't need bead locks. In 15 years of wheeling I have had 1 tire come off the bead. 1 tire get slashed on a rock that would have been well above the lock and one blow and re-seat itself. Thus, save up and get a locker if you don't have one,, you will get more enjoyment from it than beadlocks.

nicolas-eric 07-13-2008 09:03 PM

if you already have lockers and som eother things and you still wat more traction, thereīs only one way: air the tires down as much as possible.
and for that you need bead locks.
my buddy has the same setup, teh only thing i donīt have are bead locks. he can do many things at idle speed where i have to drive with nearly full throttle.
the difference in traction is very big between 10 and 3-4 psi.

4Jeepn 07-13-2008 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicolas-eric (Post 245324)
if you already have lockers and som eother things and you still wat more traction, thereīs only one way: air the tires down as much as possible.
and for that you need bead locks.
my buddy has the same setup, teh only thing i donīt have are bead locks. he can do many things at idle speed where i have to drive with nearly full throttle.
the difference in traction is very big between 10 and 3-4 psi.


You need to turn your lockers on...:D

nicolas-eric 07-13-2008 09:27 PM

Most offroad parcs here in europe are very muddy.
Like here:
http://up.picr.de/1128410.jpg
With lockers and 10 psi the traction is that bad that i need to use the winch on many places where a buddy with 3 psi can drive without using the winch.

Sometimes itīs very slippy and with both lockers and only ATs i had problems to climb the smallest hills:
http://video.google.de/videoplay?doc...16164387531169

Thatīs why I want bead locks for a maximum traction.

MoA 07-13-2008 11:29 PM

i love the look of my simulated beadlocks.. got any pics of the ones your talking about?

plus id rather run aluminum than steelies

dont get me wrong.. im keeping my 33s on these rims and ill buy a set of beadlocks for my 36s when i get them after winter
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...1/DSCI0305.jpg

ExDementia 07-14-2008 12:03 AM

heres a pic of them:

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/j...a/P7010227.jpg

theyre really not that bad, they look alright and alot of people like them but i would rather have them match the rim

i think i could buy new rims, and sell these even though they have a few scrapes

i want these, nice and simple
http://www.4x4rockshop.com/ProdImage...p/series97.jpg

MoA 07-14-2008 12:18 AM

paint the rim black =p

distortedtj 07-14-2008 12:31 AM

or paint the ring black, you can also take the rings off completly.

ExDementia 07-14-2008 12:41 AM

true, what kind of paint would i use?

edit: well the only reason why im thinking about new rims is that i want a full size spare, and a matching one of those will cost 170 before shipping and tax, or i can buy 5 procomp rims with free shipping and no tax

spanky 07-14-2008 01:05 AM

do you HAVE TO have a matching spare? if it were me, id paint those rings black, and just go buy a cheap rim for the spare.

distortedtj 07-14-2008 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanky (Post 245375)
do you HAVE TO have a matching spare? if it were me, id paint those rings black, and just go buy a cheap rim for the spare.

X2, Rostolem is some pretty good paint. but the paint will only be as good as the prep work. Make sure you sand the rings good and prime then paint.:wavey:

4Jeepn 07-14-2008 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicolas-eric (Post 245331)
Most offroad parcs here in europe are very muddy.
Like here:

With lockers and 10 psi the traction is that bad that i need to use the winch on many places where a buddy with 3 psi can drive without using the winch.

Sometimes itīs very slippy and with both lockers and only ATs i had problems to climb the smallest hills:

Thatīs why I want bead locks for a maximum traction.

So what happens when you air your down to say 5-7psi? Do your tires come off the rim at the wheel speeds shown in the video? Other than the beadlocks your buddy has, how is his jeep setup different from yours?

nicolas-eric 07-14-2008 11:37 AM

I donīt air down to 5 psi. I donīt want that the tire pops off the bead in deep ruts in the mud.

My buddy with the internal bead locks has the same setup. He has a Rubicon with 35s Cooper STTs.

Some friends made their own Bead Locks, but thatīs not street legal here:

http://up.picr.de/835404.jpg
http://up.picr.de/835406.jpg
http://up.picr.de/835418.jpg
http://144916.dynamicboard.de/t80f7-...eadlock-s.html

http://up.picr.de/953544.jpg
http://up.picr.de/1127969.jpg
http://144916.dynamicboard.de/t113f7...locks-die.html
http://144916.dynamicboard.de/t35f7-...off-HMM-s.html

http://up.picr.de/833254.jpg
http://up.picr.de/834339.jpg
http://up.picr.de/1129665.jpg
http://144916.dynamicboard.de/t77f7-...adlocks-1.html

1BLKJP 07-14-2008 07:36 PM

This might come off sounding like a dick, but it's not.

If someone has to ask about the merits and intricacies of bead locks then they probably don't need to be running them. :D

jeeperman 07-14-2008 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1BLKJP (Post 245568)
This might come off sounding like a dick, but it's not.

If someone has to ask about the merits and intricacies of bead locks then they probably don't need to be running them. :D

This is true in a LOT more cases than just beadlocks too...:D

MR.CLIFFORD 07-14-2008 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1BLKJP (Post 245568)
This might come off sounding like a dick, but it's not.

If someone has to ask about the merits and intricacies of bead locks then they probably don't need to be running them. :D

and I've never heard anyone with bead locks saying, "Ye know Earl, I think I might go get me some of them thar regular ole wheels."

It kinda falls into the roll cage category. You only need them once.

silvergoat 07-14-2008 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1BLKJP (Post 245568)
This might come off sounding like a dick, but it's not.If someone has to ask about the merits and intricacies of bead locks then they probably don't need to be running them. :D

Please dont be a dick to me, but whats a bead lock do and do you need a key for the lock?

4Jeepn 07-14-2008 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvergoat (Post 245590)
Please dont be a dick to me, but whats a bead lock do and do you need a key for the lock?

Keeps the lip of the tire on the rim at low pressure. Lots of folks with visa jeeps run them. ;)

Scout 07-14-2008 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4Jeepn (Post 245596)
Keeps the lip of the tire on the rim at low pressure. Lots of folks with visa jeeps run them. ;)

:rolleyes:

ExDementia 07-15-2008 12:09 AM

ok then i think im just going to sand these puppies down and repaint the bead lock black, much cheaper than buying new rims entirely thanks guys

distortedtj 07-15-2008 12:14 AM

:punk: cool beans bud. Good luck and prep them well before painting:wavey:

Buc Knaked 07-15-2008 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoA (Post 245367)
paint the rim black =p

thats what i did spray paint and they dont look bad at all

1BLKJP 07-15-2008 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvergoat (Post 245590)
Please dont be a dick to me, but whats a bead lock do and do you need a key for the lock?

Not if you get the ones that automatically lock with the key fob for your alarm. :D

silvergoat 07-15-2008 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1BLKJP (Post 245927)
Not if you get the ones that automatically lock with the key fob for your alarm. :D

Really? thats cool.


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