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burton861 11-10-2012 11:23 PM

Broken Track Bar
 
While wheeling today my rear track bar broke. This is the second time it has happened, both times in the same place- the weld breaks right off of the axle. Last time I welded it back, and it that everything I welded is still intact so its not like it broke again because of a bad weld.

Im almost positive I didn't hit anything, so im wondering why this keeps breaking... stress? But from what? I didn't disconnect the sway bars but I dont know if that would have done anything.

Im thinking about getting this bracket this time- It looks much beefier.
JKS Manufacturing: FAB Parts

If you know why this is happening, what I can do to prevent it, or if it has happened to you- then please help me out!

JEEPDON 11-11-2012 05:53 AM

Pictures, please, so we can see what is actually breaking. :thumb:

burton861 11-11-2012 02:59 PM

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here are some pictures of where it broke off the axle and the track bar itself

burton861 11-11-2012 03:00 PM

This is the stock track bar, is it breaking because I have a 2 inch lift? Should I get an adjustable track bar?

kjeeper10 11-11-2012 03:13 PM

You need to upgrade those mounts with HD weld on replacements.

That's crazy... No holding back huh? Lol

MudRunner 11-11-2012 04:06 PM

It may be due to your lift. I have a 2.5" lift and it came with a new HD rear trackbar bracket. It's an AEV, they might sell them separately if so you should look into it, I think that would be your best bet.

BeyondYourFrontDoor 11-11-2012 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by burton861 (Post 2982636)
This is the stock track bar, is it breaking because I have a 2 inch lift? Should I get an adjustable track bar?

That was kind of an important thing to not mention in the first place... Yup, without a new track bar you are going to be loading the stock mount to breaking point at any kind of extension...

Or, track bar relocation... or both...

Beastmaster 11-11-2012 04:24 PM

I bought my '07 JKU last year and had the same problem 4 mos after I bought it: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/wor...le-135460.html
The PO had put a suspension lift kit on it and didn't upgrade anything else. Come to find out he didn't change out the sway bar links and that caused them to invert and put a stress on my whole steering linkage that I believe was the cause: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/why...ng-171789.html
I bought adjustable links to bring the sway bar level and also replace the track bar for an adjustable one. I think this would be your fix.
I have since installed Artec armor with it's beefed up track bar bracke. Not saying that is what you should do but I just wanted to give another option.
http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...1&d=1352669307

burton861 11-11-2012 05:31 PM

tomorrow Im getting the JKS rear track bar replacement. should I also get the track bar relocation bracket? will that keep me from having to get a new track bar?

Beastmaster 11-11-2012 06:09 PM

I'm not 100% sure about that, hopefully someone with more trackbar experiance will chime in.

My experiance has been with the swaybar links. I'd also look under and check out your swaybar. If it is level like the first picture below, then that's not your problem. If your sway bar hangs down more that about 3-degrees, like in the 2nd pic, you skould either move your rear swaybar links forward from your rear axle, or try to pickup some new, longer links.
http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...3&d=1342924359http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...1&d=1342924325

repauli1 11-11-2012 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmaster
I bought my '07 JKU last year and had the same problem 4 mos after I bought it: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/wor...le-135460.html
The PO had put a suspension lift kit on it and didn't upgrade anything else. Come to find out he didn't change out the sway bar links and that caused them to invert and put a stress on my whole steering linkage that I believe was the cause: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/why...ng-171789.html
I bought adjustable links to bring the sway bar level and also replace the track bar for an adjustable one. I think this would be your fix.
I have since installed Artec armor with it's beefed up track bar bracke. Not saying that is what you should do but I just wanted to give another option.

BADASS, looks like it could take a beating!

JEEPDON 11-11-2012 06:30 PM

OP. Yup, you will need to grind off ALL of the old shit, buff off all the paint and then weld on the new bracket. The JKS one in the link on your first post looks to be a good one, RK makes a good one, and I am sure there are several others that will be much better than the stock one. Make sure you are up to the task, or get some one that is a competent welder to do the job. I wouldn't want to trust my life to something this important if I wasn't capable of making it trustworthy. :thumb:

Beastmaster 11-11-2012 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by repauli1 (Post 2983389)
BADASS, looks like it could take a beating!

Ya, good stuff.:thumb:
It's American made too: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/art...ew-183282.html

JEEPDON 11-11-2012 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by burton861 (Post 2983237)
tomorrow Im getting the JKS rear track bar replacement. should I also get the track bar relocation bracket? will that keep me from having to get a new track bar?

Yes, get the relocation bracket to replace the broken one. And myself, I would just go ahead and get the new trackbar also

SilverSport 11-11-2012 06:40 PM

IMO the 2" lift didn't cause the OPs trackbar bracket to fail. The axle mount on the JKs is known to be weak. Aftermarket lift kits sometimes feature a trackbar bracket to correct the roll center. The added benefit is it reinforces the axe mount.

Based on the pics of the broken mount and the trackbar bushing, there is more to the story than what the OP is telling us. LOL

kjeeper10 11-11-2012 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by silversport
imo the 2" lift didn't cause the ops trackbar bracket to fail. The axle mount on the jks is known to be weak. Aftermarket lift kits sometimes feature a trackbar bracket to correct the roll center. The added benefit is it reinforces the axe mount.

Based on the pics of the broken mount and the trackbar bushing, there is more to the story than what the op is telling us. Lol

x2

TF's track bad relocation and brace. It's main purpose is geometry but the added axle tube U-clamp and lca bolt mount adds some strength.
My guess it was f***** to begin with and not corrected a failed again.
Grind away the old crap like mentioned and have a HD mount welded on.
A adjustable track bar will center the axle but had nothing to do with what happened.

JEEPDON 11-11-2012 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverSport (Post 2983483)
IMO the 2" lift didn't cause the OPs trackbar bracket to fail. The axle mount on the JKs is known to be weak. Aftermarket lift kits sometimes feature a trackbar bracket to correct the roll center. The added benefit is it reinforces the axe mount.

Based on the pics of the broken mount and the trackbar bushing, there is more to the story than what the OP is telling us. LOL

You are probly 100% correct, but he still needs new HD bracket welded on.:thumb: And he probly should install new HD trackbar to keep things sanitary.

SilverSport 11-11-2012 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JEEPDON (Post 2983520)
You are probly 100% correct, but he still needs new HD bracket welded on.:thumb: And he probly should install new HD trackbar to keep things sanitary.

I agree with you there. Since he needs to put a new bracket on he needs to go "balls deep". LOL

kjeeper10 11-11-2012 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverSport

I agree with you there. Since he needs to put a new bracket on he needs to go "balls deep". LOL

Balls deep ... That works :D

SilverSport 11-11-2012 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 2983549)
Balls deep ... That works :D

Using a beefy HD bracket with deep penetrating welds. :hide: :D

repauli1 11-12-2012 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JEEPDON
Yes, get the relocation bracket to replace the broken one. And myself, I would just go ahead and get the new trackbar also

Do you need to drain gear oil when wielding on the axle housing?

kramer2k 11-12-2012 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SilverSport (Post 2983578)
Using a beefy HD bracket with deep penetrating welds. :hide: :D

http://www.v6performance.net/forums/...lies/rofl2.gif

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Originally Posted by repauli1 (Post 2985682)
Do you need to drain gear oil when wielding on the axle housing?

No, you don't need to drain it. I've had a HD rear track bar mount welded on to my rear axle. It actually turns out to only be about 6 total inches of weld when it's said and done. A pretty small amount of welding.

JEEPDON 11-12-2012 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverSport (Post 2983578)
Using a beefy HD bracket with deep penetrating welds. :hide: :D

Yup. Ya got the idea now!!!:rofl:

burton861 11-15-2012 04:44 PM

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So I got it fixed! Here is what was done, its extremely heavy duty- if this thing breaks, its taking the axle with it! :rofl:

SilverSport 11-15-2012 09:42 PM

Woop Woop! :)

kjeeper10 11-15-2012 10:03 PM

Niccccce

sneck 11-15-2012 10:09 PM

uh, who welded those? those welds look like shit, just look at that last picture, did they miss the first time? jesus, no wonder if keeps breaking off!

but good luck, hopefully it doesnt break again!

pluke the 2 11-15-2012 10:53 PM

Lmfao. Have to agree with sneck. Those welds look like shit.

Farnham21 11-16-2012 01:16 AM

Is your welder buddy drunk?

JEEPDON 11-16-2012 04:47 AM

Could be "stick" welded; won't look as pretty; but strong as hell= my kind of welding


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