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TrueBlueJK 11-11-2012 02:15 PM

Does my 2013 JK have an AB or AC head?
 
The passenger side valve cover has an AB at the end of the part number, is the the part number for the head itself or the valve cover? My engine build date is July 26 2012 and mfg date on the jeep is August 2012. Is there anywhere else I can check the part number on the head itself?

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Blastek 11-11-2012 02:23 PM

look at the driver side valve cover fromm the fender near the brake booster. Right at the bottom of the head just above the exhaust there is a metal stamp. Its behind the steering column. The first line is the build date in julian. 2072 and higher (the trailing 2 is the year) is an AC head.

TrueBlueJK 11-11-2012 02:36 PM

Looking at it with a mirror and flashlight this is what I see

2282B
15730
013000

Blastek 11-11-2012 02:47 PM

You've got an AC head. Sorry it was 206 or higher. Here's the original note:

Case Number: S1209000022
Release Date: 10/16/2012
Symptom/Vehicle Issue: Identifying Service Replacement Cylinder Heads
Diagnosis:
3.6L cylinders have been improved for durability by upgrading the valve seat and valve guide material. In order to verify that the latest upgrade is incorporated in to the cylinder head received from service parts verify the part number and Julian build date of the cylinder head
Part Number- RL141353AC or higher - left side head
Part Number -RL141352AD or higher– right side head
And a Julian build date of 2062 (206th of 2012) or higher .The build date is stamped on the outboard side of head at the center just below the rocker cover sealing rail

TrueBlueJK 11-11-2012 02:52 PM

Awesome thanks for that info blastek!!!

davefr 11-11-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blastek (Post 2982601)
You've got an AC head. Sorry it was 206 or higher. Here's the original note:

Case Number: S1209000022
Release Date: 10/16/2012
Symptom/Vehicle Issue: Identifying Service Replacement Cylinder Heads
Diagnosis:
3.6L cylinders have been improved for durability by upgrading the valve seat and valve guide material. In order to verify that the latest upgrade is incorporated in to the cylinder head received from service parts verify the part number and Julian build date of the cylinder head
Part Number- RL141353AC or higher - left side head
Part Number -RL141352AD or higher– right side head
And a Julian build date of 2062 (206th of 2012) or higher .The build date is stamped on the outboard side of head at the center just below the rocker cover sealing rail

What do you make of this number ('13 JK with Aug build):

A2591
09220
000100

TrueBlueJK 11-11-2012 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davefr (Post 2982822)
What do you make of this number ('13 JK with Aug build):

A2591
09220
000100

Looks like you got an AC head too.

Blastek 11-11-2012 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davefr (Post 2982822)
What do you make of this number ('13 JK with Aug build):

A2591
09220
000100

You sure you're reading it right? That date would put your head a year older than the vehicle. Actually. That might mean you have a rebuilt head from an early 2012 build. That's a shocker. Using remanufactured heads in brand new jeeps!!

here's my replacement head stamp:
http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...8&d=1351299869

TrueBlueJK 11-11-2012 05:08 PM

Wow that would suck if true, maybe he's looking at the plate with a mirror and reading backwards.

davefr 11-11-2012 05:43 PM

I checked again (my 4th time) and my numbers are correct and I'm looking at the same plate as the one in Blastek's image.

However the format looks different. Blastek's numbers look raised. Mine look engraved.

Anyone know what the "A" in the first line means?? If the 4th character is year then mine say's 9???

What do lines 2 and 3 mean?

Hope we can get some other members reporting what they see. This is interesting.

TrueBlueJK 11-11-2012 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davefr (Post 2983277)
I checked again (my 4th time) and my numbers are correct and I'm looking at the same plate as the one in Blastek's image.

However the format looks different. Blastek's numbers look raised. Mine look engraved.

Anyone know what the "A" in the first line means?? If the 4th character is year then mine say's 9???

What do lines 2 and 3 mean?

Hope we can get some other members reporting what they see. This is interesting.

Are you sure you're not looking at them in a mirror? Your numbers all seem backwards.

davefr 11-11-2012 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueBlueJK (Post 2983415)
Are you sure you're not looking at them in a mirror? Your numbers all seem backwards.

Yes, I'm using a mirror but am taking that into account and reporting them correctly as they would normally be read.

109 Rider 11-11-2012 06:42 PM

I have 2013 JKUR.
Manufacturer date of the vehicle is August 2013.
I have head number 2242B.
Can someone tell me is this the newest head ?
Thanks.

TrueBlueJK 11-11-2012 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 109 Rider (Post 2983488)
I have 2013 JKUR.
Manufacturer date of the vehicle is August 2013.
I have head number 2242B.
Can someone tell me is this the newest head ?
Thanks.

Seems like you just scraped by.

109 Rider 11-11-2012 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueBlueJK (Post 2983495)
Seems like you just scraped by.

You think I am safe ?

TrueBlueJK 11-11-2012 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 109 Rider (Post 2983502)
You think I am safe ?

Yeah, you have an AC head so you should be fine.

109 Rider 11-11-2012 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueBlueJK (Post 2983508)
Yeah, you have an AC head so you should be fine.

Thanks. You made my evening. That calls for a cold beer.
Cheers !!;)

TrueBlueJK 11-11-2012 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 109 Rider (Post 2983525)
Thanks. You made my evening. That calls for a cold beer.
Cheers !!;)

Lol I felt the same way before, once I found out that I definitely have the AC heads I cracked open a fresh beer.

MonarchBay 11-12-2012 11:04 AM

I have a 2013 with an AB on the passenger cylinder head. Does this mean I'm screwed?

Blastek 11-12-2012 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonarchBay (Post 2986634)
I have a 2013 with an AB on the passenger cylinder head. Does this mean I'm screwed?

all parts end with two letters. Usually AA because most parts don't get revised. The AB sticker that you can see on the passenger side head is the part number for the plastic valve cover. This isn't related to the part number for the cylinder head, which is not visible on the passenger side because the exhaust blocks it.

Nothing to fear.

TrueBlueJK 11-12-2012 11:59 AM

I wonder if there are any 13's with AB heads.

jadmt 11-12-2012 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blastek (Post 2986720)
all parts end with two letters. Usually AA because most parts don't get revised. The AB sticker that you can see on the passenger side head is the part number for the plastic valve cover. This isn't related to the part number for the cylinder head, which is not visible on the passenger side because the exhaust blocks it.

Nothing to fear.

I actually had an easier seeing the head number on the passenger side vs the drivers side and mine julian date was the same on both luckily.

MonarchBay 11-12-2012 12:18 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Well... If I am reading this right, I think I have the old head on my 2013...Attachment 177739

jadmt 11-12-2012 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonarchBay (Post 2987013)
Well... If I am reading this right, I think I have the old head on my 2013...Attachment 177739

missed it by 6 days bummer.

MonarchBay 11-12-2012 12:46 PM

Well... That's BS that Chrysler had full knowledge of this issue in the 2012 models and used the defective parts in the 2013 models. I'm going to follow up with a letter to them expressing my frustration and dismay over such bad business practices. My Jeep has 3K miles and I am about to do the lift and a bunch of other mods. But until I get this issue addressed or resolved, I'm holding off. It does make noises that don't seem right, banging or ticking or whatever you want to call it... It pisses me off.

davefr 11-12-2012 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonarchBay (Post 2987091)
Well... That's BS that Chrysler had full knowledge of this issue in the 2012 models and used the defective parts in the 2013 models.

How do you know the part is defective? Don't you think Chrysler made sure the heads going into '13's were OK regardless of part number? It's not inconceivable that older rev. heads could have been screened or reworked at the factory to ensure this issue didn't come up.

Would they purposely go into the '13 MY with what could be a huge warranty expense issue when they had a fix in place for better part of a year??

I wish we could get some straight info on this!! Any Chrysler engineers on this forum?

TrueBlueJK 11-12-2012 12:54 PM

That sucks MonarchBay, what is the MFG date of your engine and Jeep just out of curiosity?

Blastek 11-12-2012 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonarchBay (Post 2987091)
Well... That's BS that Chrysler had full knowledge of this issue in the 2012 models and used the defective parts in the 2013 models. I'm going to follow up with a letter to them expressing my frustration and dismay over such bad business practices. My Jeep has 3K miles and I am about to do the lift and a bunch of other mods. But until I get this issue addressed or resolved, I'm holding off. It does make noises that don't seem right, banging or ticking or whatever you want to call it... It pisses me off.

To be clear, you do not have the old AA head, you most likely have the AB head. There are no confirmed, reported ticking problems with either the AB or AC heads. There were a couple reports of early problems with the AB heads with the cam journals from techs, no one I know of had any issue on this forum or others with the AB head. We have no idea what changed between AB and AC. It could just be a way to differentiate between the manufacturing problem with the cam journals.

MonarchBay 11-12-2012 12:57 PM

From what I understand based on the previous posts and other threads, the date stamped on the head indicates the design used for the valve seat area etc... That tells me that I have the part that has been riddled with issues on 2012 models...

My build date on door is July 2012, purchased Sept 11.

MonarchBay 11-12-2012 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blastek (Post 2987121)
To be clear, you do not have the old AA head, you most likely have the AB head. There are no confirmed, reported ticking problems with either the AB or AC heads. There were a couple reports of early problems with the AB heads with the cam journals from techs, no one I know of had any issue on this forum or others with the AB head. We have no idea what changed between AB and AC. It could just be a way to differentiate between the manufacturing problem with the cam journals.

Thank you for this clarification. It gives me some peace of mind.


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