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Fireaxe 11-19-2012 05:59 PM

5th wheel balance and rotation survey
 
Just curious....
do you add your 5th wheel into rotation and balance?
If yes, what pattern do you use?


Just curious if I should start doing this or not.

WVU Mountainman 11-19-2012 06:00 PM

Thanks for the question. I was just getting ready to post the same thing. Ill watch for answers.

Jerry Bransford 11-19-2012 06:03 PM

Yes for sure, doing a 5-way rotation extends the life of your tires by 20%.

For a RWD vehicle, this is a good pattern to use...

LF swaps side to RR
RF swaps side to LR
LR to Spare
Spare up to LF
RR straight up to RF.

ohsixlj 11-19-2012 07:18 PM

Jerry, I understand the tire swapping pattern used with the older biased ply tires but I was told that when running modern steel belted radials that it was not good to switch the directional rotation after they were broken in. Doing so would cause premature belt breakage. I always do a front to back 4 tire rotation without switching sides and replace two tires at a time. Any thoughts on this? I like your practical knowledge over others theory.

Patrick H 11-19-2012 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohsixlj (Post 3012894)
Jerry, I understand the tire swapping pattern used with the older biased ply tires but I was told that when running modern steel belted radials that it was not good to switch the directional rotation after they were broken in. Doing so would cause premature belt breakage. I always do a front to back 4 tire rotation without switching sides and replace two tires at a time. Any thoughts on this? I like your practical knowledge over others theory.

If that ever was an issue, it was with old radial tire technology. Like 30 years ago. It's not an issue at all.

Jerry Bransford 11-19-2012 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohsixlj (Post 3012894)
Jerry, I understand the tire swapping pattern used with the older biased ply tires but I was told that when running modern steel belted radials that it was not good to switch the directional rotation after they were broken in. Doing so would cause premature belt breakage.

That was true with the initial radial tire designs. However, once they figured out what the flaw was in the manufacturing process that was causing the problem, that problem went away. It is highly recommended to switch sides with modern radial tires to even out the wear.

The only time a cross-side rotation should not be done is when you are running unidirectional tires that have an arrow on them indicating which direction they were designed to roll in. I doubt many Jeepers run unidirectional tires on their Jeeps. And no, Goodyear's kevlar MT/R with its asymmetrical tread pattern is not a unidirectional tire. :)

Patrick H 11-19-2012 07:37 PM

Whoops, sorry, I'm not Jerry.;)

ohsixlj 11-19-2012 07:39 PM

Still appreciate the input. I only asked him specifically cuz he made the post above me.

ohsixlj 11-19-2012 07:43 PM

Thanks guys. Learn something new every day.

PDXJeeper 11-20-2012 12:41 AM

I put the tire with the least ammount of tread on the spare rack. The most tread goes to the RR then LR then RF and last LF.

jrussblues 11-20-2012 08:25 AM

I use the, when I get a flat, rotate in the spare, repaired flat becomes spare, watch for wear, rotate front and back. Its sounds like anarchy but since I have the mutant ability of picking up a nail or screw about every 3-6 months it seems to work well.

Fireaxe 11-22-2012 01:00 AM

Thanks.....

raslichk 11-22-2012 12:39 PM

I just bought a wrangler. The mounted spare looks brand new while the other tires have about half tread left. Should I rotate the spare in or not worry about it?

UnlimitedRubicon 11-22-2012 12:50 PM

I use a five tire rotation. This is taken from tirerack.com:

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/...rerotation.jpg



Quote:

Originally Posted by raslichk (Post 3021938)
I just bought a wrangler. The mounted spare looks brand new while the other tires have about half tread left. Should I rotate the spare in or not worry about it?


That is what I had when I bought my LJ. The PO never put the OE spare into rotation. When I got four new mt/r's I put the OE spare into rotation and it ended up chunking. I'd just keep the spare for emergency use.


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