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b3nimal 11-25-2012 06:49 PM

Any suggestions....don't wanna sound like a broken record on this thing
 
So I just got a job out of college and just bought my first Wrangler, it's a 2000 Sahara. It's pretty much all stock for the time being. I want to put a lift on it (2" or 3", nothing too big) and some 33s, maybe an intake and exhaust system before I get into changing the gearing or anything else. I'd like to start getting into off-roading but have no idea where to start, I'm not going to be able to do it a ton since I live in Chicago and my work schedule is ridiculous for the next couple months. Any comments or suggestions on where I should start and/or what I should start with would be awesome!

Also, any places near the Chicagoland area that are good to go or start out at? I have a buddy that goes up to Silver Lake a couple times a year but that's pretty much the only place he goes so that's going to be one destination I try at least once.

Thanks
Ben

Thomas302 11-25-2012 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by b3nimal
So I just got a job out of college and just bought my first Wrangler, it's a 2000 Sahara. It's pretty much all stock for the time being. I want to put a lift on it (2" or 3", nothing too big) and some 33s, maybe an intake and exhaust system before I get into changing the gearing or anything else. I'd like to start getting into off-roading but have no idea where to start, I'm not going to be able to do it a ton since I live in Chicago and my work schedule is ridiculous for the next couple months. Any comments or suggestions on where I should start and/or what I should start with would be awesome!

Also, any places near the Chicagoland area that are good to go or start out at? I have a buddy that goes up to Silver Lake a couple times a year but that's pretty much the only place he goes so that's going to be one destination I try at least once.

Thanks
Ben

Congrats on getting out of college and buying your first wrangler. Well I can tell you to run 33's you at least need 3" of lift up to 4". If you run a straight 4" suspension you will have to do the SYE to fix the drive line angles. That gets pricey. If you stick with a 2.5 suspension and 1" to 1.25" body lift with a 1" motor mount lift you should be fine with you stock tc skid in place with no drop. Ditch the exhaust and intake mods. They don't do much for performance. Spend that money on the regear. That will bring back the power lost due to the bigger tires. Good luck and have fun with your jeep and make it your own.

tallzdatank 11-25-2012 06:56 PM

if I had it to do over again, id do a winch before a lift. mine was lifted when I bought it, but still, get recovery gear. be able to get yourself out of trouble, before you buy anything that will get you in deeper, and a lift will do just that.

Fishin Cricket 11-25-2012 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tallzdatank (Post 3031966)
if I had it to do over again, id do a winch before a lift. mine was lifted when I bought it, but still, get recovery gear. be able to get yourself out of trouble, before you buy anything that will get you in deeper, and a lift will do just that.

That is extremely sound advice!!

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tallzdatank 11-25-2012 07:23 PM

also, get protection. skid plates rock guards etc. nothing will ruin your good time faster than an oil plan hole, or a punctured gas tank. I mean really that'll screw you up

jp2611 11-25-2012 07:25 PM

silver lake is about it for ya...unless you are on SE side CHI than could head to ATTICA/ Badlands in IN....welcome to the Forum...congrats on the Jeep!!

PDXJeeper 11-25-2012 07:40 PM

A 2.5-3" lift with a 1.25 BL/MML would be a cost effective way to achieve 33" clearance. I have a K&N intake(PO) and wish i had the stock box and tubing. Spending money on a fancy muffler that is going to be abused sounds silly to me. A good suspension set up and sway bar disco is a must, you will need recovery points before you go out too. Do you know your current gear ratio?

SeVeReDiStOrTiOn 11-25-2012 07:53 PM

Do all the maintenance before any mods...it's not as fun but your jeep will thank you for it.

CarolinaBound 11-25-2012 07:59 PM

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I want to put a lift on it (2" or 3", nothing too big) and some 33s
And here...we...go

Derp 11-25-2012 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by carolinabound

and here...we...go

lol

Gunner 11-25-2012 08:37 PM

Get a good tire pressure gauge. Go with your buddy to the Dunes. Air down and enjoy. Go out a few times and really see what you need first. I agree have all the maint items done first then start mods. Nothing worse than a busted U Joint due to being dry. Once you really find out just how much your jeep can do stock you will quickly find out what is going to work best for you.

Derp 11-26-2012 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunner
Get a good tire pressure gauge. Go with your buddy to the Dunes. Air down and enjoy. Go out a few times and really see what you need first. I agree have all the maint items done first then start mods. Nothing worse than a busted U Joint due to being dry. Once you really find out just how much your jeep can do stock you will quickly find out what is going to work best for you.

x2
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b3nimal 11-26-2012 08:41 PM

Thanks a lot guys! Ive got a way better idea on where to start now....now if only I can get some free time...and I thought about the badlands before too thats just north of where I went to college

b3nimal 11-26-2012 08:46 PM

One more thing....what's the best site/mag to get parts or is it all about the same with service and price

Jeembro 11-26-2012 08:50 PM

Join a local jeep club or offroad club and they'll show you the ropes. That's what I did. Also google is your friend when it comes to best deals on parts online

tallzdatank 11-26-2012 08:59 PM

fir parts online, ive used quadratec and 4wd.com both with good results for service and prices, I get four wheeler and petersons four wheel and off road, they've got some good ideas on products, build ideas, and sometimes even trails near you. but then again so does the community on here.

TJGARMA03 11-26-2012 10:13 PM

Northridge 4x4 is a great place to buy parts too.

jp2611 11-27-2012 05:50 AM

Baseline 4x4 is a vendor/ sponsor for the Forum....and they are local to me...so if I want something I call them and take the country drive out to pick it up!!! Good Jeep people also!! be about a 3-4 hour trip for you though...but if you combined it with a wheeling trip over this way up to Bundy Hill recreation area in Mi...meet more Jeep people abd have somebody to get parts at the same time.....

b3nimal 11-27-2012 12:06 PM

Alright cool thanks, this wrangler forum is my new favorite thing to do to keep me from the things I'm supposed to be doing Haha

Imped 11-27-2012 12:22 PM

Purdue grad I presume? BTFU.

You'll have to join us at the Badlands one of these days. IndyORV has a solid presence in the Chicago area.

As for what you should do, I realize that the first thing 99% of new Jeep owners want to do is "lift it." That's the normal thing to do and it's understandable. But it doesn't help you and it's really money not well spent. As a fellow Purdue grad, I'd hope you recognize that building from the ground up is the smart thing to do. That means addressing the weak and vulnerable areas first.

Stock tie rod--replace with V8 ZJ tie rod
Oil pan skid
Steering box skid

Those are the three most vulnerable areas that should be addressed first. Next, the older model TJ gas tank skids are flimsy and not worth their weight in crap. The stock belly skid hangs down about 4" from the frame, robbing you of valuable belly clearance. Replacing those before raising the suspension would be a very wise move. I could go on and on but knocking out those items first would really give you a capable rig where it counts and would maintain the excellent OE suspension geometry. I suggest keeping the rig stock, coming to wheel with us at the Badlands, and I'll put you on obstacles that can highlight why you need to address each and every one of those items.

b3nimal 11-27-2012 12:47 PM

Awesome, just let me know next time you go there. I just hope I have the time off of this training to get to do it before too long


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