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Cons_Table 11-30-2012 09:32 AM

Color-Matched Spray Paint
 
Hey guys,

So I am sure you are all aware of the issue that some of the newer model TJs face...the cracking, "chicken feet," whatever-you-wanna-call it, typically on the hood. I was lucky enough to have this on my jeep which has now resulted in faded color and oxidation of the hood. I don't need it to look PERFECT (hence considering a spray paint option, rather than professional) as it is not a show vehicle by any means...but the hood is hard on the eyes. My question to you guys is, where have you gone for color matched spray paint, and what were the results like? I have found/heard of one place on the forum so far called "automotivetouchup.com" that made it really easy for me to find the color I will need. I want to stick to the factory color as I think painting the whole hood black or bedliner will look wrong, so those options are out. My jeep is Gunmetal Pearl, but I am guessing that information is kind of irrelevant. Lets hear your luck with spray painting the jeep (part of the jeep)...pictures of your results are welcome and encouraged.

lynn 11-30-2012 09:50 AM

My local automotive paint supply store (BAPS - usually sells to body shops)
will mix most any production paint match and put it in a spray bomb for you.
About 10+ yrs ago they charged ~$12/can.

Your local supplier may do something similar.

Cons_Table 11-30-2012 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lynn (Post 3050980)
My local automotive paint supply store (BAPS - usually sells to body shops)
will mix most any production paint match and put it in a spray bomb for you.
About 10+ yrs ago they charged ~$12/can.

Your local supplier may do something similar.

That is the downside...I live in a smaller town, so finding that stuff is pretty difficult sometimes. I am not AWARE of any auto paint supply stores around me, but I will ask around.

Moabrubi 11-30-2012 12:00 PM

I have seen good results with Duplicolor coded paint in the can, If you clear coat over it's a pretty close match for rattle can. Most auto parts stores have it, I plan on doing this to my tube fenders.

This guy rattle canned his:

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harleydragon 11-30-2012 12:02 PM

might not cost a lot to just get the hood sprayed

ob269 11-30-2012 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cons_Table

That is the downside...I live in a smaller town, so finding that stuff is pretty difficult sometimes. I am not AWARE of any auto paint supply stores around me, but I will ask around.

The Napa here does it, and I imagine they all do..

Cons_Table 11-30-2012 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by harleydragon (Post 3051396)
might not cost a lot to just get the hood sprayed

This is true. I may get a quote on it, just so I know.

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Originally Posted by ob269 (Post 3051407)
The Napa here does it, and I imagine they all do..

Ahhh...did not know this. I will have to check into it. :thumb:

Jerry Bransford 11-30-2012 12:09 PM

Duplicolor has colors for pretty much all Jeeps, and it comes in aerosol cans. The dealership can also order smaller aerosol cans of the factory colors. Finally, nearly any automotive paint supply shop can make any color to match any vehicle and place it in a high quality aerosol spray can. The last time I had paint put into aerosol spray cans, it was something like $60 for two cans of high quality paint. Remember that our vehicles are not painted with enamels so I would not use any enamel if it were me.

Cons_Table 11-30-2012 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford (Post 3051425)
Duplicolor has colors for pretty much all Jeeps, and it comes in aerosol cans. The dealership can also order smaller aerosol cans of the factory colors. Finally, nearly any automotive paint supply shop can make any color to match any vehicle and place it in a high quality aerosol spray can. The last time I had paint put into aerosol spray cans, it was something like $60 for two cans of high quality paint. Remember that our vehicles are not painted with enamels so I would not use any enamel if it were me.

Thanks Jerry. The site I mentioned above was asking $20 a can, so as far as price is concerned it is in the ballpark.

Also, when the time comes, what would you guys recommend for prep work? Would you take the hood to bare metal, or would you just sand it all smooth, hit it with a primer, then paint and clear? If I do this I wanna get it as close to matching as I can, so I know prep work is going to be crucial.

harleydragon 11-30-2012 12:31 PM

leave your old paint,it is great protection..do the rest..it is not really necessary to prime the entire hood unless you just want to

Jerry Bransford 11-30-2012 12:34 PM

By the way, we don't want your TJ getting too pretty... we have the M&G coming up & we plan on your TJ getting so catty-wampus that there will be no location completely safe from scratches & dings... including dead-center on your hood. :D

Cons_Table 11-30-2012 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford (Post 3051510)
By the way, we don't want your TJ getting too pretty... we have the M&G coming up & we plan on your TJ getting so catty-wampus that there is no location safe from scratches & dings... including dead-center on your hood. :D

Itd be my luck I go through all of this trouble, and I WOULD dump her on the hood :doh: :rofl:

Cons_Table 11-30-2012 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by harleydragon (Post 3051498)
leave your old paint,it is great protection..do the rest..it is not really necessary to prime the entire hood unless you just want to

This is kind of what I figured. Just sand it smooth (not to the metal), clean it off well so there are no loose particles/etc, prime, paint, clear. Seemed pretty straight foward :thumb:

I figure priming may be a good idea so that everything is one solid color. That way it makes it easier to see if it's getting an even coat, rather than having dark/light spots where my old paint may be showing through.

TxkTJ 11-30-2012 03:39 PM

Most likely the rattle can stuff won't be a base coat clear coat but rather an enamel of some kind.
You can buy an HVLP gun for less than $20 at Harbor Freight. It wouldn't take a very large compressor to prime and paint a hood. That way you could use a paint that utilizes a hardener. It will cost a little more but the rattle can won't hold up in the elements as well.

harleydragon 11-30-2012 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TxkTJ (Post 3052040)
Most likely the rattle can stuff won't be a base coat clear coat but rather an enamel of some kind.
You can buy an HVLP gun for less than $20 at Harbor Freight. It wouldn't take a very large compressor to prime and paint a hood. That way you could use a paint that utilizes a hardener. It will cost a little more but the rattle can won't hold up in the elements as well.

agreed..urethane base coat and clear coat for a good paint job.........as far as wiping it down before spraying..buy a tack rag for that

Cons_Table 11-30-2012 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TxkTJ (Post 3052040)
Most likely the rattle can stuff won't be a base coat clear coat but rather an enamel of some kind.
You can buy an HVLP gun for less than $20 at Harbor Freight. It wouldn't take a very large compressor to prime and paint a hood. That way you could use a paint that utilizes a hardener. It will cost a little more but the rattle can won't hold up in the elements as well.

This is what the "automotivetouchup.com" site says about their aerosols. It sounds like just about every one of the paints is offered as a base coat/clear coat.

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12 ounce spray paint can filled with color basecoat has been custom matched to your exact factory color code. Each can is made on a per order basis. Almost all modern and many older cars are available in a basecoat / clearcoat formula so clearcoat is required for a proper shine and paint match. We mix the highest paint quality available for your order. In the event that your paint color is only available in a singlestage (no clearcoat) formula we will remove and refund clearcoat if you order it.

harleydragon 11-30-2012 04:37 PM

one of the things I don't like about aerosol is that it will be so very thin,even if you put several coats.However,if you don't want to pay a shop to do it or buy the paint equipment to do it yourself then this might be your best bet

Cons_Table 11-30-2012 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by harleydragon (Post 3052237)
one of the things I don't like about aerosol is that it will be so very thin,even if you put several coats.However,if you don't want to pay a shop to do it or buy the paint equipment to do it yourself then this might be your best bet

My decision is still up in the air. Now that I think of it...I THINK my grandpa may have given me a spray gun that I put in my tool box. If that is the case, I may go with a can of paint for the same price as two aerosol cans.

I just sent an email to the company to get a little more info on their paints.

I am also gonna message the guy who started the thread I found that particular website in...its been a while so I am sure he'll have some input on what he used and how well its been holding up.

harleydragon 11-30-2012 04:48 PM

you can buy a new gravity feed gun cheap..even a very cheap new gun will usually do a much better job than an old gun that all the seals are dried up

Cons_Table 11-30-2012 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by harleydragon (Post 3052271)
you can buy a new gravity feed gun cheap..even a very cheap new gun will usually do a much better job than an old gun that all the seals are dried up

Ill have to look at it...I dont think hes ever used it, so the seals may be bad, or they may not. I appreciate the help :thumb:

harleydragon 11-30-2012 05:29 PM

yw

Jerry Bransford 11-30-2012 05:36 PM

My bro-in-law is an artist when it comes to painting cars, and he let me know just how much goes into using a spray gun to paint a car one day. He's not the type to try to impress people, he was just yakking and mentioning how temperature, humidity, brand & type of paint, air pressure, paint additives to reduce orange peel etc., air volume, nozzle setting, how you hold your tongue in your cheek, stroke, height above the surface, etc. all affect how well an automotive paint job comes out.

That was enough for me to stick with aerosol paint cans for automotive painting. Oh, I do have 2-3 paint guns and a big belt driven air compressor at home but I limit their uses to my wooden fences & dog houses. :D

jameslee97206 11-30-2012 05:40 PM

I've had pretty good luck over the years with rattle can on cars. I cannot comment on how durable it is over time as I always sold the vehicle quickly. The main thing I find is to lay it as evenly as possible then after it dries a day or so, wet sand, cut and buff it with a variable speed buffer. I use auto magic bc1 and bc2 for compound and polish. Always comes out looking great. Good luck!!

Cons_Table 11-30-2012 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford (Post 3052375)
My bro-in-law is an artist when it comes to painting cars, and he let me know just how much goes into using a spray gun to paint a car one day. He's not the type to try to impress people, he was just yakking and mentioning how temperature, humidity, brand of paint, air pressure, paint additives to reduce orange peel etc., air volume, nozzle setting, how you hold your tongue in your cheek, stroke, height above the surface, etc. all affect how well an automotive paint job comes out.

That was enough for me to stick with aerosol paint cans for automotive painting. Oh, I do have 2-3 paint guns and a big belt driven air compressor at home but I limit their uses to my wooden fences & dog houses. :D

That is all good to know, Jerry. I have sent a couple emails out to get the opinions both from the paint dealer as well as a few guys that have used it. Ill let you all know what I hear from them as well. I appreciate the help.

Also...as far as spray paint is concerned...not to sound arrogant, but Ive done a little work with a rattle can lol. Here is the car I painted with probably a dozen rattle cans for our local demolition derby. :thumb:

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto..._1890430_n.jpg

Cons_Table 11-30-2012 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jameslee97206 (Post 3052386)
I've had pretty good luck over the years with rattle can on cars. I cannot comment on how durable it is over time as I always sold the vehicle quickly. The main thing I find is to lay it as evenly as possible then after it dries a day or so, wet sand, cut and buff it with a variable speed buffer. I use auto magic bc1 and bc2 for compound and polish. Always comes out looking great. Good luck!!

Thanks for the input! :thumb:

Jerry Bransford 11-30-2012 05:52 PM

I especially dig those bitchin' whitewalls, nice! :D

Cons_Table 11-30-2012 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford (Post 3052420)
I especially dig those bitchin' whitewalls, nice! :D

I can do some custom ones on your jeep if you would like ;)

krisbman 12-01-2012 01:26 PM

dont use a spray can,it will look like shit! if your not gonna fix it right dont do anything. just leave the factory paint on. you cant just sand crows feet smooth either. youll have to essentially strip the whole hood, clean the bare steel, apply an epoxy primer, base the hood then clear it. then after it still looks like shit and the color doesnt match take it to a shop and have them fix it. i estimate 3-4 hours to strip hood, and probably a paint time of 2 hours since your only doing the outer surface. so we have 6 hours total on the high side at say $50 an hour plus materials for around $125 or so. you do the math.

Jerry Bransford 12-01-2012 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cons_Table (Post 3052696)
I can do some custom ones on your jeep if you would like ;)

Somehow I think it may be a good idea if I sleep outside next to my tires during the next M&G. :D

Steve305 12-01-2012 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by krisbman (Post 3055041)
dont use a spray can,it will look like shit! if your not gonna fix it right dont do anything. just leave the factory paint on.

THAT ^^^^^^^^^^^ was the best advice in this entire thread.

As Jerry elated, there is definitely an art to painting. And you aren't going to get what most folks would consider an "acceptable" outcome with a rattle can. And if you don't know what you're doing, you won't get it with a gun and compressor either. It's easy to dry spray it or get it so heavy it runs off in the floor. I painted for many years and I can assure you that if these minor imperfections are bothering you, you will be very disappointed in any "repair" that you do on your own. This is NOT a personal insult to you, but rather a statement saying that this is definitely not as easy as you may think. ;) Take it to a professional and pay them to paint it. Or leave it alone and live with it. And FWIW, we used to charge "extra" to fix something that someone had already tried to repair and made the job even more time consuming for us.


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