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03yellowtj 11-30-2012 05:26 PM

lift and tire info
 
ok im a new jk owner and i dont know alot about them because i had a tj and never thought i would drive one let alone own one. so i never did any research on lift quality, articulation and such. can someone help me with my decision. i want 33 for sure becsause of the power loss. i want articulation and smoothness. thank you:flowers:

Duke79 11-30-2012 06:05 PM

There are loads of topics here on this.

You can get away with 2" Spacers or if you want to drop the coin ou can put a decent 2.5" lift on that you can upgrade to 35's down the road if you want, but still be good with the 33s.

I am running 35's with a 2"Spacer and rub at full stuff with the bump stop extensions. I am adding a 1"body lift. Alot of people don't like a body lift but its a cheap way to net 2 tire sizes.

I didn't want to go with a budget lift big enough to run my 35s because I like the factory ride....although the E rated tires kinda threw that out the window.


Best option is a RK 2.5" lift that you can upgrade down the line. Loads of guys here have them and they work great.

BeyondYourFrontDoor 11-30-2012 06:21 PM

The AEV 2.5 kit comes with nice triple rate springs, and with the control arm kit will improve your on-road ride just fine. For super-twisty articulation though, you'll want to look at long-travel kits which generally are 3-4 inch kits and a lot more dough for the long shocks...

03yellowtj 11-30-2012 06:55 PM

ive got about 600 to 700 for a lift and i was thinking about a 4 inch lift all springs and shocks no spacers from procomp. off the 4wheeloarts website. what do you think about that lift with 33s?

pluke the 2 11-30-2012 07:09 PM

Pro comp isnt exactly quality for the Jeep jk. Zzz. Look into TF 2.5" with shocks and you'll be better off.

Thedirtman 11-30-2012 07:17 PM

If you want more articulation trim your fenders and run some 12" travel shocks.
33x12.5" tires should not be a problem on the factory suspension.

03yellowtj 12-03-2012 08:27 AM

what if i put 35s with a 4 inch lift. how much gas (mph) and power would i loose?

paleh0rse 12-03-2012 08:53 AM

Your $700 budget doesn't allow for a proper 4" lift... not even close.

What gear ratio and model jeep are you starting with, and what type of wheeling, if any, do you plan to do with it?

MTH 12-03-2012 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 03yellowtj
ive got about 600 to 700 for a lift and i was thinking about a 4 inch lift all springs and shocks no spacers from procomp. off the 4wheeloarts website. what do you think about that lift with 33s?

Way too much lift for 33s. JKs and TJs are very different in terms of lift required. JKs can fit 33s without any lift, though they'll rub offroad. 2.5" of lift is tops for 33s.

03yellowtj 12-03-2012 09:12 AM

idk what gear ratio or dana, its a 07 jku x. there is a procomp 4 inch lift for about 600 to 700

kjeeper10 12-03-2012 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by paleh0rse
your $700 budget doesn't allow for a proper 4" lift... Not even close.

What gear ratio and model jeep are you starting with, and what type of wheeling, if any, do you plan to do with it?

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Originally Posted by mth

way too much lift for 33s. Jks and tjs are very different in terms of lift required. Jks can fit 33s without any lift, though they'll rub offroad. 2.5" of lift is tops for 33s.

x2

Jackster3 12-03-2012 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by paleh0rse
Your $700 budget doesn't allow for a proper 4" lift... not even close.

What gear ratio and model jeep are you starting with, and what type of wheeling, if any, do you plan to do with it?

Agreed. Im into a 2.5 inch lift with all i need for a little less than double that

MTH 12-03-2012 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 03yellowtj
idk what gear ratio or dana, its a 07 jku x. there is a procomp 4 inch lift for about 600 to 700

Auto or manual?

4" is too much for 33s and still more than what's need for 35s. For 35s on a budget, you'd do better to get a 2.5" kit and (if needed based on your wheeling) trim the flares.

A deep desire for a regearing after adding 35s is very, very likely. That's going to be $1200 to $2000.

pluke the 2 12-03-2012 09:30 AM

south texas aint going to listen.

03yellowtj 12-03-2012 09:32 AM

ill do the 2.5

03yellowtj 12-03-2012 09:33 AM

with 33s

MTH 12-03-2012 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 03yellowtj
ill do the 2.5

Quote:

Originally Posted by 03yellowtj
with 33s

2.5" lift with 33s looks like this.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...2&d=1353949175

WranglerMojo 12-03-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by pluke the 2 (Post 3061037)
south texas aint going to listen.

Like the old saying goes: You can always tell a Texan,,,, you just can't tell him much. :hide:

BTW, spoken from experience since I spent my first 50 years in south TX.

kjeeper10 12-03-2012 09:55 AM

Can somebody say rollerskates ? :D

MTH 12-03-2012 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10
Can somebody say rollerskates ? :D

Roller skates of AWESOME. :rofl:

paleh0rse 12-03-2012 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 03yellowtj (Post 3060989)
idk what gear ratio or dana, its a 07 jku x. there is a procomp 4 inch lift for about 600 to 700

The key word in my last post was "proper"... any 4" you get for $700 is gonna suck -- it's as simple as that.

If you don't know what trim you have, I think there's a jeep website somewhere that allows you to type in your VIN to obtain a build sheet. You may want to search for that info before moving forward with any mods so that you can plan properly...

MarkinOhio 12-03-2012 10:51 AM

Careful if you go Procomp. A guy I work with got their 2.5 inch lift and ended up with 4" of lift. Good thing he put 35's on it. He has 08 X 2 door.

Plus, he thinks he got incorrect shocks with the lift.

kjeeper10 12-03-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkinOhio
Careful if you go Procomp. A guy I work with got their 2.5 inch lift and ended up with 4" of lift. Good thing he put 35's on it. He has 08 X 2 door.

Plus, he thinks he got incorrect shocks with the lift.

That is common with some lift coils. RK 2.5 put me almost if not 4" BUT I have 0 weight. They are designed to give listed height with bumpers/winch/tire carriers.

It's not that some of these kits are "cheap" just don't have the components that are needed for 4" lift height.
Add these parts and now your closer in price to the other lifts.
Of coarse quality should be #1 you don't want to be replacing parts in one year.
Spend a little more and do it right the first time.

I'd go with Rk's 2.5 flex system which includes front lowers for caster correction a front track bar and rear relo bracket for roll center.
You can upgrade/add arms as needed for better performance and adjustability.
And of coarse some nice Rancho 9000 shocks :thumb:

Ken

03yellowtj 12-14-2012 03:06 PM

so i ended up getting a 2.5 inch lift from rough country, only shocks and springs. does anyone have these or know anything about the performance.

kappaknight 12-14-2012 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 03yellowtj (Post 3104237)
so i ended up getting a 2.5 inch lift from rough country, only shocks and springs. does anyone have these or know anything about the performance.

Hrmm, if you're looking to upgrade on the fast track, you should at least try the 'Search' option on this forum and do a little research before you buy. Any comments post your purchase is pretty much moot.

kjeeper10 12-14-2012 05:20 PM

oh man.

Post the lift you bought. You probably need a few more components.

jagerhelix 12-14-2012 09:38 PM

I don't personally have rough country, but have wheeled with several folks that do. As much trash talk as they get online, they seem to perform well and guys like them.

03yellowtj 12-15-2012 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 3104598)
oh man.

Post the lift you bought. You probably need a few more components.

All I got were the shocks and springs. What else would I need?

paleh0rse 12-15-2012 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 03yellowtj (Post 3107295)

All I got were the shocks and springs. What else would I need?

What kind of wheeling, if any, do you plan on doing?

03yellowtj 12-15-2012 10:15 PM

i live in a valley, so mostly trail, prerunning and the ocasional crawling.


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