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brokeagin 12-01-2012 09:17 AM

Thinking about a TJ (YJ Owner)
I am not sure if this belongs here or not but its time for some opinions. I have done a lot of reading and research but still not sure what I want to do. I have owned two CJ-5's and a CJ-7 before we had kids (youngest one just turned 18). A few months ago I bought a 95 YJ because I wanted another Jeep to use around the farm and ride some trails, etc. While I love it and the simplicity of it, the wife has been wanting to go out more on trails, etc. and we find ourselves using my Jeep more than her Tahoe running to the store, etc. We are thinking of selling my 2.5 YJ and looking at picking up a 97-02 4.0 TJ. I am thinking better heat and comfort with the TJ. We do not do a lot of hard core wheeling. We will probably lift it 3", 31 or 33" tires, etc. I know TJ's are a little more expensive to modify but I am not worried about that. What is every one's opinion?!? Good?!? Bad?!? Is the TJ that much more complex?!?! How many of you have owned both and which one do you like more?!? Thank you for any and all input...

theshers 12-01-2012 09:28 AM

Love mine
I'm fine with YJs, but I chose a TJ because of the suspension improvements. I can't say the improvements are that big of a jump, so the price to benefit comparison depends on the condition of the TJ versus the condition of your YJ.

harleydragon 12-01-2012 09:36 AM

even though my tj is highly modified it still rides great.the interior and accessories are very nice..on the other hand my yj's are less expensive and easier to work on..If I had to have just 1 it would probably be the yj's.bottom line is that you just have to decide which you want more

dale 3 12-01-2012 09:38 AM

I had a cj back in the late 70's didn't like the body rot but everything else was great.Mostly DD and beach.Couple yrs.ago brother bought a tj.Soo back to the beach we go.I went to a tj because i feel it's the last real jeep.I wouldn't mind the jk's for modern suv type comfort hate the friggen plastic noses.TJ has all i need,coil suspension,top off,doors,dependable drivetrain.It's like a harley make it your own.

Ebxgsxr 12-01-2012 10:18 AM

i've had 2 YJ's & 5 TJ's. before i got this last TJ, i was actually looking for an auto 4.0 YJ w/ a/c. but couldn't find one in the price range i wanted to spend. i wasn't opposed to a TJ, since i think they ride better & the top is so much easier to put up & take down. ended up getting the TJ since it was such a deal for the price.

brokeagin 12-01-2012 11:11 AM

Thank you for the input. The YJ (or TJ if I decide to get one) is my daily driver. I can get most of what I have in my YJ back out of it so I am not worried about the cost of the TJ vs what the YJ is worth. I will probably just find a clean unbutchered 4.0 TJ, work on it over the winter and sell the YJ in the spring. Anything I really need to watch out for besides the usual rust, etc?!?!

Jacqui 12-02-2012 02:46 AM

Just make sure it shifts into 4WD before you start making a deal on a TJ, and get it up to highway speed when test driving to listen for any strange noises, feel for vibrations, etc. Anything out of the ordinary. If you're not sure what "ordinary" is for a TJ, test drive a few different stock ones so you're familiar with how they ride and handle. Then go test drive a LJ. Benefits of a LJ: rides smoother than a TJ, each one comes stock with a Dana 44 rear and the 4.0, makes a great DD since it has plenty of space behind the back seat. There's a reason many TJ owners wish they had a LJ Rubi.

Some people would tell you to avoid 2005-06 model years due to possible OPDA issues. It didn't scare my husband and I away from purchasing a 2006 LJ since it's just something to add to the regular maintenance list. There's definitely a lot of heat in a TJ. I've never used it. It's way too hot for my comfort, haha. Oh, and as for comfort, yes, riding in a TJ is definitely a bit more comfy than in a YJ. From what I understand, working on a TJ isn't that much different than a YJ. It's the JK that's built more like a car under the hood, so more difficult to tinker with yourself. Way more computer components in a JK. But the TJ is still a relatively simple beast. You don't have to worry about that. Parts are plentiful and the 4.0 is built like a rebar-reinforced solid concrete wall (in other words, it's a solid engine). =)

I think you'll be happy in a TJ, and your wife will be too.

Slater451 12-02-2012 02:54 AM

I own a TJ and don't see the need for the LJ But I guess it's the nuts..... Who knows. I guess I bought the wrong jeep. I have no use for the extra 11 to 12 inches of space. And if I really want a d44 I'll wait till I find one on CL and swap it in my self

Big Cole 12-02-2012 08:42 AM

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I've owned CJs, YJs, and TJs. You will be much happier with a TJ due to the smoother ride.

jrussblues 12-02-2012 09:28 AM

My first jeep was a 2.5 yj and I loved it. My next was a jk and it was too refined and expensive to modify for my tastes. I currently own an lj and a cj7.
Having owned each model I can tell you the problem with the yj is that its attempts at refining a cj were kinda weak. The lj provides a lot of improvements that the yj failed on. Like getting rid of the mess of vacuum lines, upgraded rear diff, no vacuum actuator on the front axle, coil spring suspension, better interior. The cj7 is a no nonsense, little refinement very simple and cheap to work on machine. If it were me I would go with a tj as a dd and an 03-06 will help you skip the exhaust problems of earlier models, a sport model could have a Dana 44 rear axle, and a manual transmission will be a little more forgiving on ecu programming with larger tires.

brokeagin 12-02-2012 06:13 PM

Thank you for all of the replies! We looked at a bone stock 99 4.0 Sport today but I think he is a little high. I am letting him think it over. Some of the ones we have called about have ABS (this one does not). How does the ABS effect off roading?!?!

scott howard 12-02-2012 06:38 PM

If you can only own one the TJ is the better choice .
I would rather not have ABS.

Plowboy1970 12-02-2012 08:28 PM

First on ABS. The earlier ones 97-2000? that have ABS have the D35 axle. No D44 with ABS. I think, think, the later TJ's could have the D44 and ABS. I have ABS and the D35. I took it on a Jeep Jamboree and it never kicked in. I do not think under 5 MPH the ABS works. I have an auto and I will tell you, on snow and backing out of my driveway in 2 wheel drive it will lock the front wheels and drag them. The rears work, but drums and reverse don't work well. I usually have to bump it in neutral to stop. Forward it stops just fine. On the road with snow it works great. It was actually one of the selling points when we bought our 97 4.0 auto two years ago. The girl friend drives it in the winter. I drive my GMC Z71 She parks her PT GT turbo. She loves ABS.

brokeagin 05-11-2013 02:33 PM

Woohoo! The search is over! I just picked up a 1998 Jeep Sahara. A few things are already done. I am going to change all of the fluids and filters before I head do to much wheeling. It has:
Rubicon Express hand throttle
Rough Country Quick Discos
4 inch Skyjacker suspension lift
1 inch body lift
Flex-a-lite Black Magic electric fan
12.50X33-15 Goodyear Wrangler M/T's
15X10 Elite Alloys
High Pinion Dana 30 with Aussie Locker and 3.55 gears
Dana 35 with Powertrax Locker and Warn full floating axles and 3.55 gears
Advance Adapters Super-short SYE
Unknown cv shaft

Mulvihill64 05-11-2013 02:44 PM

D35 with 33's and a locker... Not the best idea

brokeagin 05-15-2013 07:17 AM

I know but the Warn full floating axles should help and the lock out hubs should be the weak link. (Fingers Crossed)

brokeagin 05-20-2013 09:50 PM

After a few upgrades - Smittybilt bumper and which, 33" Duratracs, and a Bestop Trektop NX top. Still need a few things but its getting there...

SurfKaster 05-20-2013 11:03 PM

Welcome. I'm a YJ fan, but I think you've made a wise choice.

kyjeep 05-20-2013 11:26 PM

I've had both. Both were I6 5 speeds, a decade apart in age. I'm here to tell you that you made the right choice. My YJ beat my kidneys to death and my Tj while not the smoothest is worlds better than the YJ was.

Wattapunk 05-21-2013 07:53 AM

Congrats on the new Jeep. Suggest getting Duplicolor Black fabric paint to convert that spice uppers to match the ST.

brokeagin 05-21-2013 11:56 AM

Some initial thoughts. The ride and flex of the TJ is light years ahead of the YJ BUT the YJ feels lighter driving and the steering seems a little more responsive that the TJ. I am sure a lot of it is related to tire size and lift but they drive completely different. The YJ is more of a "bang around" Jeep. The TJ is more of a jump on the highway and drive/wheel Jeep. The TJ is definitely the best choice in my opinion...

brokeagin 05-21-2013 12:02 PM

Actually, they are brand new uppers. The drivers side has been on for a few days. The passenger side is still in the box. I will probably just pick up a new set and sell the Spice ones...

NC Bear 05-21-2013 01:17 PM

Nice choice on that TJ Sahara. It looks clean.

I have owned a CJ5 and a 94 YJ and a 97 TJ. I love the TJ, I think it is the best of the series. I do miss the grumpy ol' CJ though.

(I have driven CJ7's and JK's quite a bit also, I am still content with the TJ.)

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