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myjeepfun 12-03-2012 10:32 AM

Do I need chains?
 
Howdy,

I'm going up to Washington state from Southern California for Xmas:dance:.
Gonna see my family. I have a 2012 stock 2-door, with the original 29 inch tires. The tires are the Wrangler All-terrain. In your opinion will I need chains?

If so, which kind would you recommend?

Finally, where should I put them? Front or back? Thanks!

Merry Christmas!

jadmt 12-03-2012 10:46 AM

if your tires are in good shape you should be fine. what part of cali to what part of wa are you going. If you are hugging the coast you won't have any problems. If you do need chains for some reason you should have them on all 4 wheels but if only one pair on the front. You can only go at slow speeds with chains.

myjeepfun 12-03-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jadmt (Post 3061244)
if your tires are in good shape you should be fine. what part of cali to what part of wa are you going. If you are hugging the coast you won't have any problems. If you do need chains for some reason you should have them on all 4 wheels but if only one pair on the front. You can only go at slow speeds with chains.


Thanks, ya I've used chains before but on a 2WD honda accord... Ok good to know. From Orange County to Southwest WA. I'll be doing the 5 all the way. My only concern is through the Siskyous and Grants pass. Will I damage anything if only two wheels are chained up and in 4Hi?

Baby Huey 12-03-2012 02:47 PM

If the weather gets really bad thru Shasta in to Ashland.... You can stop at a Les Schwab tires store, get the good high dollar easy to put on chains, leave em in the box, and on the return trip trade em back to em, they will refund your money if you don;t use em..
Sometimes the boys in BLUE can be stinkers about "Tire Chains Required" or just "Carry Tire Chains".... 4X4 or not....
Good luck...."BH"

BeyondYourFrontDoor 12-03-2012 03:01 PM

Chains always go on the drive wheels, so don't put them on the front unless you've got some kind of assembled-in-Taiwan front-drive Jeep.

If it is slippery enough to need chains, not having them on all 4 wheels won't be hurting anything. Generally you want all 4 wheels to be the same diameter, especially on a full-time system like the Jeep, or you'll eat your transfer case.

You are talking about some extreme highway weather for chains... as they are going to be sanding/salting if it is that bad. I live in the middle of the mountains, and only chain up on logging roads...

jkjeeper06 12-03-2012 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BeyondYourFrontDoor
Chains always go on the drive wheels, so don't put them on the front

Depends. You would never chain up if you weren't in 4x4, that'd be dumb. So some people chain the front wheels to help steer the vehicle a little better and help pull the jeep thru turns as opposed to push

The Rube 12-03-2012 08:37 PM

This question has to be a joke. No one is this dumb.

jkjeeper06 12-03-2012 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by myjeepfun
Will I damage anything if only two wheels are chained up and in 4Hi?

You could. If the roads aren't slippery, the difference in diameter could cause binding and would put extra wear on your tires and T case. That being said why would you be in 4x4 let alone chaining up if it wasn't slippery out. So I'd say as long as you use chains properly (when it's so slippery that 4x4 just doesn't cut it) then you won't hurt the jeep at all putting them on just 2 tires

To answer your original question, unless you are off road, it might be hard to find the need for chains in most states. Plus if a wrangler can't drive safely in 4x4 it might just be too dangerous to drive(I've yet to witness this tho). I know in MA and NH it has to be a state of emergency or its a HEFTY fine

HRR1 12-03-2012 09:38 PM

Nah. Global warming means no more snow!

pluke the 2 12-03-2012 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Rube
This question has to be a joke. No one is this dumb.

Lmao

discochris 12-04-2012 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jkjeeper06 (Post 3063495)
You could. If the roads aren't slippery, the difference in diameter could cause binding and would put extra wear on your tires and T case. That being said why would you be in 4x4 let alone chaining up if it wasn't slippery out. So I'd say as long as you use chains properly (when it's so slippery that 4x4 just doesn't cut it) then you won't hurt the jeep at all putting them on just 2 tires

To answer your original question, unless you are off road, it might be hard to find the need for chains in most states. Plus if a wrangler can't drive safely in 4x4 it might just be too dangerous to drive(I've yet to witness this tho). I know in MA and NH it has to be a state of emergency or its a HEFTY fine

Same is true in Minnesota. Chains and studded tires are both illegal, despite us being in a relatively snowy state.

12thman 12-04-2012 04:53 AM

I drive from Cali to WA pretty regularly. The problem with WA/OR in the winter is that it doesn't get real cold. Instead of driving on snow, you are on ice. You can also have wet roads with ice just at the crest of a hill. For that reason it is always frustrating to drive a 4WD in WA in the winter. As far as the chains go, I regularly pass a sign as you enter OR saying you must be carrying them. I've never had to put them on, though. I have seen I-5 so icy that, at a stop, I was sliding sideways due to the slight angle of the road for water runoff. Good luck.

termite 12-04-2012 09:19 AM

If you feel you need them, or are required to have them the SCC Z8 or Super Z LT may be a good fit on the Rubi/Saharas that have little clearance behind the wheel. I know they make them that will fit the stock tire sizes, I'd guess they would probably have some that fit some of the bigger sizes as well.

I used the Z6 version for a few years on various cars before Indiana became a no snow state and would recommend them to anyone looking for chains/cables.

I've used chains in the past and frankly would never go back to them after using a good set of cables.

Lbear 12-04-2012 09:30 AM

Don't use chains!
 
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Originally Posted by myjeepfun (Post 3061203)
Howdy,

I'm going up to Washington state from Southern California for Xmas:dance:.
Gonna see my family. I have a 2012 stock 2-door, with the original 29 inch tires. The tires are the Wrangler All-terrain. In your opinion will I need chains?

If so, which kind would you recommend?

Finally, where should I put them? Front or back? Thanks!

Merry Christmas!

There is a discussion elsewhere on this site that Chrysler says DO NOT USE CHAINS. There is a clearance issue. Check this first. Cable chains. according to my dealer, will work ok. Check, but I believe your tires are snow rated (snowflake on tire) and you should be fine. But the other poster is correct that we get either falling snow, slush or ice, but usually not accumulation. The worst is black ice which is very hard to detect.

Bottom line is use 4WD when necessary and drive VERY carefully. No sudden direction changes and give yourself lots of stopping room. To minimize black ice don't drive at night or early morning and watch for shaded areas where ice hasn't melted.

Finally, the worst weather is usually when you go over the Siskiyous coming up from California into Southern Oregon. Steep, twisty and trucks. Can be miserable. Just check weather and you will be fine. Unless you are going to the mountains in Washington you should be ok. Just check weather reports.

myjeepfun 12-04-2012 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Rube (Post 3063487)
This question has to be a joke. No one is this dumb.

Really?


And to the others that helped, thanks. Just wanted to get other's opinions, as is the purpose of this forum. I'm hoping there won't be any ice on the road...

Lbear 12-04-2012 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by myjeepfun (Post 3065130)
Really?


And to the others that helped, thanks. Just wanted to get other's opinions, as is the purpose of this forum. I'm hoping there won't be any ice on the road...

There are no dumb questions, just sometimes dumb responses. :doh: Good luck and have a great Christmas. :wavey:

myjeepfun 12-04-2012 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Lbear (Post 3065201)
There are no dumb questions, just sometimes dumb responses. :doh: Good luck and have a great Christmas. :wavey:

Thanks. Have a great Christmas yourself. :wavey:

Blastek 12-04-2012 11:22 AM

i carry these as per the carry chain law:
Amazon.com: Security Chain Company Super Z6, SZ451, Cable Chain for Pickups & SUVs - Set of 2: Automotive

they're cable chains, so they have enough clearance. never used them, but I have test fitted them and they look good. I don't think anywhere on the 5 will have a carry chain requirement, so you'll be fine. Unless you're heading to the mountains just expect bucket loads of rain.

the owner's manual says no chains at all the rubicon. it also says no chains on the front on all models.

i82much 12-04-2012 11:41 AM

Just remember this if you aren't used to driving in snow or ice. All vehicles have four wheel braking, and in that sense, a 4x4 is nothing special. People think that having 4x4 means they can drive like they are on dry asphalt. Please don't do that.

jaydraeger 12-04-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by myjeepfun (Post 3061203)
Howdy,

I'm going up to Washington state from Southern California for Xmas:dance:.
Gonna see my family. I have a 2012 stock 2-door, with the original 29 inch tires. The tires are the Wrangler All-terrain. In your opinion will I need chains?

If so, which kind would you recommend?

Finally, where should I put them? Front or back? Thanks!

Merry Christmas!


I would say it's highly doubtful that you will need chains if you are on any regular road or highway. Conditions that would cause a 4x4 to need chains will usually close the road before chains are required for a Jeep. I've never chained up any of my stock Jeeps in 20 years of CA mountain driving.

Browndog 12-04-2012 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lbear

There are no dumb questions, just sometimes dumb responses. :doh: Good luck and have a great Christmas. :wavey:

X2 :wavey:

myjeepfun 12-05-2012 10:47 AM

Thanks for the tidbits. And don't worry i82much, I am not one of those drivers. I grew up in the Northwest, I'm accustomed to driving in the snow. Just wanted people's expectations for the specific route up the 5. I don't want to be caught unprepared. I appreciate the concern, really do. This forum is superb. Peace.


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