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LOL WUT 12-06-2012 07:16 PM

Gorilla wheel locks?
 
So my jeep came from the dealer with gorilla wheel locks. Today I was rotating the tires and realized my standard 12pt 3/4" deep well socket took off my gorilla locks without issue, the wheel lock works as well.... Has anyone else experienced this?

panthermark 12-06-2012 07:19 PM

Damn...I just ordered some.

Where they splines or acorns?

Are you sure they are Gorilla's and not some generic brand?

LOL WUT 12-06-2012 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by panthermark (Post 3075486)
Damn...I just ordered some.

Where they splines or acorns?

Are you sure they are Gorilla's and not some generic brand?

They are gorillas. The key the dealership gave me has GORILLA on it and they are acorns. The spare tire had the factory lugs on it, I compared them to the acorns on the other 4 wheels and they were different for sure. Looks like I'll be locking my spare up with a cable. :(

smitty141 12-06-2012 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LOL WUT (Post 3075647)
They are gorillas. The key the dealership gave me has GORILLA on it and they are acorns. The spare tire had the factory lugs on it, I compared them to the acorns on the other 4 wheels and they were different for sure. Looks like I'll be locking my spare up with a cable. :(

When I bought my wheels and tires from Discount Tire, 4 Gorillas were included. I call them (Gorrilla) and gave them the key code. For $10.50 they sent me a lock for my spare. That included shipping..

wassup8687 12-06-2012 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty141 (Post 3075976)
When I bought my wheels and tires from Discount Tire, 4 Gorillas were included. I call them (Gorrilla) and gave them the key code. For $10.50 they sent me a lock for my spare. That included shipping..

Great idea. I have a set but haven't installed them. I want the spare safe also. :thumb:

LOL WUT 12-06-2012 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty141 (Post 3075976)
When I bought my wheels and tires from Discount Tire, 4 Gorillas were included. I call them (Gorrilla) and gave them the key code. For $10.50 they sent me a lock for my spare. That included shipping..

Thanks for the heads up but if my regular 12pt socket is taking off their (gorilla) wheels locks I'm not sure I want them for my spare. I'd rather get some MOAR locks and a cable. I know if a thief wants the spare tire they will get it off regardless but I want them to at least have to try lol. Luckly I don't have to worry too much as my work parking is secure and we park the Jeep inside at home.

MudRunner 12-06-2012 09:40 PM

My XD Addicts came with some strange lugs that you can't even use a standard wheel spanner on, you need the adapter that came with the wheels. I'm not sure if you can buy them separately but it might be worth looking into if the Gorilla lugs don't seem to work. Good luck! :thumb:

panthermark 12-07-2012 10:52 AM

Hmmm....I ordered the splines, so hopefully those cannot be removed so easily.

RoadiJeff 12-08-2012 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by panthermark (Post 3077522)
Hmmm....I ordered the splines, so hopefully those cannot be removed so easily.

What's the Gorilla part # on those? I visited their website and it looks like there are all kinds of options.

We just ordered a 2013 Sahara yesterday and it looks like I'll have a month or two to get things like wheel locks before it arrives.

panthermark 12-08-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RoadiJeff (Post 3080799)
What's the Gorilla part # on those? I visited their website and it looks like there are all kinds of options.

We just ordered a 2013 Sahara yesterday and it looks like I'll have a month or two to get things like wheel locks before it arrives.

I ordered mine from Quadratec.

Gorilla Automotive 21783Q23BC - Gorilla Automotive Products Spline Drive Lug Nut Kit - Quadratec

fishmd 12-08-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by panthermark

+1 on this kit. Good stuff.

BlueLesPaul2006 12-08-2012 05:49 PM

Very interesting. I have these on mine and was thinking of getting an extra key. but it makes me wonder about the security if a normal 12pt socket can take them off. Kind of defeats the purpose.

RoadiJeff 12-08-2012 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by panthermark (Post 3080831)

Thanks. I'm going to order a set and hopefully Santa can get them here before Christmas. I can give my wife some nuts to play with for Christmas while waiting for her Sahara to arrive. That didn't sound right. :redface:

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Originally Posted by BlueLesPaul2006 (Post 3081741)
Very interesting. I have these on mine and was thinking of getting an extra key. but it makes me wonder about the security if a normal 12pt socket can take them off. Kind of defeats the purpose.

I think the ones in this thread that could be removed with a 12-pt socket were acorn style. The kit listed above is the splined style.

SoCal 12-08-2012 07:32 PM

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I installed the mopar locks on my 2012 stock 18'' wheels. Today I installed XD Monsters and the licks fit I had to thin out the edge a little on a grinder but it comes with 5 locks.

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Irishbaja 12-08-2012 11:15 PM

The spline Gorilla Locks can't be taken off with a 12 point. The Gorilla's the dealer gave you are just lug nuts.

G-Mike 12-09-2012 10:58 AM

^2. Even with the Gorilla splines nuts there are 2 versions, a 6 spline and a 5 spline. You can buy a 6 spline socket at any auto store; the 5 spline is only available with the key code through Gorilla. The 5 spline socket will remove both the 5 and 6 spline nuts. The QTec set includes 18 6 spline and five 5 spline nuts.

MikeK46 12-09-2012 11:17 AM

I have these acorn nuts with locks on my Jeep that I got from Quadratec. Should I be worried now that the locks can come off with a regular socket?

Gorilla Automotive 41783Q-23 - Gorilla Automotive Products Acorn Style 3/4" Hex 1/2-20 Thread Wheel Installation Kit - Quadratec

robskully 12-09-2012 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeK46 (Post 3083601)
I have these acorn nuts with locks on my Jeep that I got from Quadratec. Should I be worried now that the locks can come off with a regular socket?

Gorilla Automotive 41783Q-23 - Gorilla Automotive Products Acorn Style 3/4" Hex 1/2-20 Thread Wheel Installation Kit - Quadratec

I have this set also ..... kinda misleading ...
They are NOT all locking nuts only 5 of them are !
One for each wheel and one for the spare.
The rest are just regular acorn nuts.
One good thing about the normal gorilla acorn nuts
is that they are a one piece nut. Your stock ones are not !
Stock ones have a chrome covering on them.
Rob .....

Irishbaja 12-09-2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by G-Mike (Post 3083558)
^2. Even with the Gorilla splines nuts there are 2 versions, a 6 spline and a 5 spline. You can buy a 6 spline socket at any auto store; the 5 spline is only available with the key code through Gorilla. The 5 spline socket will remove both the 5 and 6 spline nuts. The QTec set includes 18 6 spline and five 5 spline nuts.

Thats what I have..

Bumbleyeep 12-09-2012 04:09 PM

I used to work for Discount tire and Gorilla offers spline lugs that aren't technically wheel locks. Just because they come with a Gorilla key doesn't mean they are wheel locks. I have a set of wheel locks on my jeep. They don't have splines. They look like a bulky acorn nut and towards the base is where the "wheel lock" part is. I'd go to your local tire store and ask for a set of wheel locks. Not spline lug nuts. You'll see the difference right away

Bumbleyeep 12-09-2012 04:20 PM

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Here's a picture of the two. Spline lugs and actual wheel locks.

panthermark 12-09-2012 06:28 PM

Hmmmm....when I get mine from Qtec I'll have to test them out.

If they can be removed without the lug key (via socket).....they are going back.

crypple 12-09-2012 08:01 PM

+1 to the 5 spline acorn kit from Quadratec. Comes with one locking nut per wheel and a key to fit them. Just for kicks I tried to remove them with a regular socket set and the tire iron. I also tried lock grips and various pliers. They all slipped off or couldn't grip. The kit comes with a key code if you lose the original and I'm pretty confident that one of these per wheel will stop most thieves. They'd need to carry some serious hardware to get the locking nut off.

The one thing I didn't try, but think might work, is one of those sockets with multiple pins inside which are supposed to fit all sizes of nuts. Maybe it would get enough grip in the spline key slots to spin it off.

Regardless, I feel safe enough with the gorilla 5 splines installed.

panthermark 12-09-2012 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by crypple (Post 3085329)
+1 to the 5 spline acorn kit from Quadratec. Comes with one locking nut per wheel and a key to fit them. Just for kicks I tried to remove them with a regular socket set and the tire iron. I also tried lock grips and various pliers. They all slipped off or couldn't grip. The kit comes with a key code if you lose the original and I'm pretty confident that one of these per wheel will stop most thieves. They'd need to carry some serious hardware to get the locking nut off.

The one thing I didn't try, but think might work, is one of those sockets with multiple pins inside which are supposed to fit all sizes of nuts. Maybe it would get enough grip in the spline key slots to spin it off.

Regardless, I feel safe enough with the gorilla 5 splines installed.

Cool....that makes me feel a bit better.

Luckily, I have stock Sahara wheels...so I'm not sure if there is a big theft ring for such wheels anyway.

crypple 12-09-2012 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by panthermark
Luckily, I have stock Sahara wheels...so I'm not sure if there is a big theft ring for such wheels anyway.

4 stock Sahara spares = a full set of new wheels and tires on Craigslist. I'd still lock em up :)

wassup8687 12-09-2012 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by crypple (Post 3085886)
4 stock Sahara spares = a full set of new wheels and tires on Craigslist. I'd still lock em up :)

Good point. :thumb:

wassup8687 12-09-2012 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCal (Post 3082010)
I installed the mopar locks on my 2012 stock 18'' wheels. Today I installed XD Monsters and the licks fit I had to thin out the edge a little on a grinder but it comes with 5 locks.

Were you going to get a matching spare?

panthermark 12-09-2012 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by crypple (Post 3085886)
4 stock Sahara spares = a full set of new wheels and tires on Craigslist. I'd still lock em up :)

I'm still locking them up....(my Gorilla's arrive on Tuesday)...but I think people will snatch Rubi spares before Sahara spares. I don't think (hope) thieves will put a ton of effort into getting my spare.

mcgee10 12-10-2012 03:46 AM

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You must remember thief's are clever, they know your wheel lock key is in your jeep. So hide it well. Mine is in a small metal box screwed to my frame rail. My spare has spline locks and a kryptonite cable lock and a surprise they can't see. You need to make it as hard as possible for them to steal from you. So they skip yours and move on to a easier target. Nothing in my book worse than a thief.

panthermark 12-13-2012 05:00 PM

I'm not too happy with quadratec. The Gorilla splines are fine, but I when I emailed them to ask if these were security locks, and if they can open a box and check....they responded simply that they were not security locks. I almost went with the Mopar ones instead.

a: They were wrong. There are indeed 5 security lugs and 18 non security lugs.
b: Clearly taking the time to open the box and look at the product they are selling was too much work.

The plan is to keep the lug key in an underseat lockbox. That would make getting my wheels pretty much a waste of time. But I really don't think a thief will spend too much time going after stock Sahara wheels.


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