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dbsanders 12-09-2012 03:05 PM

First off-road trail today
 
So went on a trail today, first time with my new-to-me 2002 TJ. Stock everything, 30" tires (Nexen Roadian - highway tires).

This particular trail was full of holes, from rain. The Jeep seemed to fall into each one -hard. Other trucks (pickups, SUVs) seemed to float right over them somehow. I tried to avoid them, but there were so many I had to crawl along in and out of them much of the time.

I imagine it's just the suspension difference - with them made to absorb the bumps a bit more?

Would it help to air-down the tires on this type of road?

Thomas302 12-09-2012 03:18 PM

Yes airing down will help a lot off road. With stock tires I'm not sure what a safe pressure is. It will help the tire conform around the rocks and move and flex. Gives you a better ride. Also if you disconnect your front anti swaybar you won't "fall" into the bumps as hard. You suspension will be able to flex more. It's addicting so watch out. Lol

TnDz TJ 12-09-2012 06:26 PM

Now you have done it.... you're hooked!!!! Start emptying your wallet....

Airing down is a plus... the biggest off-road improvement for manners is sway bar disconnects. When you disconnect the front anti-sway bar, it allows the axle to move independently from the frame and 'sucks up' the holes and off-camber feeling much better.

Your body and frame will remain much more level as the axle absorbs the holes and ruts.

for example....

http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...3/dsc03487.jpg

Even with a stock suspension ( I have a 4" lift ) the difference of being disconnected is a vast improvement

CarolinaBound 12-09-2012 06:30 PM

If I had to guess you didn't disconnect the sway bar like he^^ said. Makes a huge difference crawling in, out, and over ruts since it'll just droop into said hole instead of the body dropping in there.

Thomas302 12-09-2012 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TnDz TJ
Now you have done it.... you're hooked!!!! Start emptying your wallet....

Airing down is a plus... the biggest off-road improvement for manners is sway bar disconnects. When you disconnect the front anti-sway bar, it allows the axle to move independently from the frame and 'sucks up' the holes and off-camber feeling much better.

Your body and frame will remain much more level as the axle absorbs the holes and ruts.

for example....

Even with a stock suspension ( I have a 4" lift ) the difference of being disconnected is a vast improvement

Great pic!

cully 12-09-2012 06:48 PM

I should add that whenyou are done wheeling you should always remember to reattach your sway bars for on road saftey.

Thomas302 12-09-2012 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cully
I should add that whenyou are done wheeling you should always remember to reattach your sway bars for on road saftey.

Good advise

dbsanders 12-09-2012 06:55 PM

Thanks guys! How long does that take to connect/disconnect, and is that done with simple tools? I do need to drive to and from the trails at highway speeds.

CarolinaBound 12-09-2012 07:07 PM

Whatever the metric equivalent to a 3/4 inch wrench and a big torx bit (T50?) will do ya good. I tucked my links up ontop of the spring perches. Over thanksgiving break I drove my rig from Philly to the Pine barrens, about an hour ride with the front disconnected. It isn't all that different as long as you weren't driving it like a sports car in the first place. Just a decent amount of body roll. My buddy rides his front and rear disco'd. Just drive safe as you should be anyways

TnDz TJ 12-09-2012 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas302 (Post 3085044)
Great pic!

Thanks... took that today in the trenches out in North Reno

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbsanders (Post 3085083)
Thanks guys! How long does that take to connect/disconnect, and is that done with simple tools? I do need to drive to and from the trails at highway speeds.

No problem....

Well... there are several ways to 'disconnect'....

1. Stock links can be undone as described above... T50 Torx bit and appropriate wrench

2. You can make quick disconnects out of your stock links.... several DYI threads on this ( I'm too lazy to link them.. lol )

3. Buy a quality set of disconnects.. such as JKS.... or equivalent

I have RE disconnnects.... pull a pin on each side and relocate the links to frame mount and repin.... takes about 30 seconds on level ground.

Here you can see how mine are up and out of the way.... the axle pin can be seen as well..

http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...3/dsc03310.jpg

G-LOVE 12-10-2012 09:20 AM

Great lesson! Thanks for the advise. Looks like I will add quick disconnects to my growing parts list.

Question: Do you disconnect the rear sway as well? If so, does anyone have pictures of their set up?

-Jim

Thomas302 12-10-2012 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by G-LOVE
Great lesson! Thanks for the advise. Looks like I will add quick disconnects to my growing parts list.

Question: Do you disconnect the rear sway as well? If so, does anyone have pictures of their set up?

-Jim

No you only do the front. The rear is such a small swaybar it can flex plenty.

G-LOVE 12-10-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas302 (Post 3086906)
No you only do the front. The rear is such a small swaybar it can flex plenty.

Thanks! :thumb:

donbadabon 12-10-2012 02:17 PM

You may also want to consider a Currie Antirock sway bar as an alternative to disconnecting each time.

Simply put, it is a replacement sway bar that you never have to disconnect, but you get the same advantages as if you disconnected - plus the added advantage of more stability.

Moabrubi 12-10-2012 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by donbadabon (Post 3087745)
You may also want to consider a Currie Antirock sway bar as an alternative to disconnecting each time.

Simply put, it is a replacement sway bar that you never have to disconnect, but you get the same advantages as if you disconnected - plus the added advantage of more stability.

This.

Replaced my JKS discos with an Antirock, It is well worth it. No more fighting to get the muddy greasy disconnects back on. The extra stability gained is just icing on the cake.


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