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fattirewilly 12-12-2012 09:22 PM

Yellow TJ V8 "very built sleeper" thread
 
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Hello TJ fans. :wavey: I made intros earlier this week on the welcome section of the forum and it was suggested I do a build thread here. Well, unlike many of you here w/ blood and sweat into your rides, I didn't "build" my Jeep, but bought it from a relative who can't physically drive anymore. We're both happy with me owning the Jeep, so this is my it's already "built" thread. I sold my 2006 GTO to free up the garage space for this, I'm having fun so far :dance:

I several reasons for posting up my 2000 TJ:

1) I need to insure it for more than the $8k a typical 2000 TJ would likely sell for, and I'd like a couple educated estimates on what this would realistically "sell" for, but its not for sale, not yet anyway. I don't need to know the cost of all the parts. My insurance guy will deal with value, not cost. On Ebay I see V8 wranglers going from $4k to over $50k.

2) There's stuff on here that I don't know what it does, specific pics of these items to follow. Maybe you all can help me figure some things out.

3) The Jeep is too much fun not to share and if someone is trying to stuff an LS7 into a Wrangler, this might be useful at some point. The list below is extensive but I've probably missed something.

4) If you feel something is missing or should be done different because it's too weak for the rest of the Jeep, I'm open to suggestions. This Jeep will be see some offroad but I won't likely push any extreme situation.

Donor Jeep - bought August 2005
LS7 Block, crankshaft, & pistons. Comp Cam Lamar Walden Automotive
16x8 Stingray III Wheels Centerline Wheels Wheel Deal Orders
Dana 44 Rear w/ discs etc Currie Enterprises
Dana 44 Front w/ Discs etc Currie Enterprises
Currie inner axle Currie Enterprises
Super Streetfigher 4L60E Transmission tci auto
Maximizer Converter tci auto
Street Fighter Shifter tci auto
LS1 Flex Plate tci auto
cooler/pan/shift knob tci auto
Atlas II Transfer Case Southern Off Road Specialist
Atlas to 4L60E Short Adaptor Advance Adaptors
ATI Damper/Balancer ATI
Dana 44 Yoke Currie Enterprises
Transmission Install Weaver Automotive
Raptor 5.5 Brakes Vanco Power Brake Supply
Hawk HPS pads Tire Rack
Driveshaft parts Stealth Conversions
Control Arms Rubicon Manufacturing
Onboard air system 4wheeldrive
Trailmax Thermal Pro Seats 4wheeldrive
AC Parts and Wiring harness parts
Axle Install Harpers garage
Slider Rocker Guards
Spine - Super Joint Rings & Pinion
Throttle Position Sensor Summit
Custom Y & Cat, K&N & Intake Exotic Exhaust & Fab
Whole exterior repainted 2007 Bearden Autobody
Radiator Griffen Thermal Acquisition
Power Steering Fast Lane
LS6 Intake Street & Performance
HP Tuners Precision Motorsports of FL
Pioneer Head Unit Crutchfield
Custom Wiring Harness Squier, Inc - Meno, AK
Guages Summit
Transmission Control Module Powertrain Control Solutions
Mastercraft Baja RS Seat Covers
Cable Assembly Fleet Supply
Fan Assembly 4WheelDrive Hardware
Hood Catch Assembly 4WheelDrive Hardware
Soft top hardware 4WheelDrive Hardware
Weatherstiping Jasper Jeep
Bottle Cool/Clockspring Jasper Jeep
Decals Jasper Jeep
Fog Lights Quadratec
Sport Bar Cover 4WheelDrive Hardware
Fabtech Steering Stabilizer 4WheelDrive Hardware
Tail Lamps 4WheelDrive Hardware
Hood Lift 4WheelDrive Hardware
Drive Shaft/Ujoint work Drive Line Services
Bushwacker Fender flare Quadratec
Gentex NVS Auto Dimming Rearview
Flowmaster 50 Series (manifolds in to a single 3" exhaust)

I'll be crawling around taking more photos. I do not "yet" have any time slips. My best in the manual GTO was 13.3.

fattirewilly 12-12-2012 10:33 PM

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Couple more pics; LED taillights, view of the engine bay and power steering

I should probably get rear bumper right? Been looking at the JCR bumper/tire carrier combo. I want to be able to hang 60 pounds of bikes on the spare tire and I see the stock set-up isn't up to the task.

fattirewilly 12-12-2012 10:49 PM

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Now going under the Jeep.

The oil pan and exhaust do not have a skid plate. Steering assembly and bottom of radiator don't have a skid plate. Is this okay so long as I'm not doing serious rock crawling on technical trails?

Is the drive shaft extending to the front axle a stock shaft? The rear one isn't stock.

jeepinmike 12-12-2012 10:50 PM

It is only worth what someone would pay for it. :-)

Slater451 12-12-2012 11:09 PM

That doesn't look like a 44 up front and the steering stabilizer appears to be stock.

Hammond_Egger 12-12-2012 11:43 PM

http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...1&d=1355369334

Looks like a loose ground wire here..

fattirewilly 12-13-2012 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Slater451 (Post 3098233)
That doesn't look like a 44 up front and the steering stabilizer appears to be stock.

It's Currie's 44.

From what I've read, the regular 44's are good for 300 hp.

A little more digging through papers, this is doing 389.6 hp and 425.9 tq to the wheels on based on a Dynojet sheet from the prior owner. So that's about 450hp & 505 lb of tq at the engine. In the Vette, this engine is 505hp and 475tq, but this is tuned for torque over horsepower.

Hammond Egger, thank for the heads up on the potential loose ground, but it's good. If you see something else, shout. Better to check something out.

Eric2300jeep 12-16-2012 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by fattirewilly
Now going under the Jeep.

The oil pan and exhaust do not have a skid plate. Steering assembly and bottom of radiator don't have a skid plate. Is this okay so long as I'm not doing serious rock crawling on technical trails?

Well I'm just gonna be blunt with you. You should not attempt crawling over any rock bigger than a soccer ball. Simply because you have stock suspension and stock height tires. That's why you have no skids in those places. Rocks that are big enough to do damage to those areas you simply can't tackle. Frankly this Jeep was not built for 4x4ing. You could build it for 4x4ing though. Put about $4k into a nice lift and then another $2.5k in tires and beadlock rims and you can start getting into "technical trails". Oh and you should check the gearing in your transfer case and axles. I highly recommend a 4:1 low kit or lower in your t-case for "technical trails". The slower, the easier, to navigate the rocks that come up to your chest. I'm sure she's quick though!

fattirewilly 12-16-2012 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric2300jeep (Post 3109166)
Well I'm just gonna be blunt with you. You should not attempt crawling over any rock bigger than a soccer ball. Simply because you have stock suspension and stock height tires. That's why you have no skids in those places. Rocks that are big enough to do damage to those areas you simply can't tackle. Frankly this Jeep was not built for 4x4ing. You could build it for 4x4ing though. Put about $4k into a nice lift and then another $2.5k in tires and beadlock rims and you can start getting into "technical trails". Oh and you should check the gearing in your transfer case and axles. I highly recommend a 4:1 low kit or lower in your t-case for "technical trails". The slower, the easier, to navigate the rocks that come up to your chest. I'm sure she's quick though!

Thanks Eric, you got me poking around on the ground a bit more, maybe okay at basketball size?

The front shocks, which I didn't have listed in the first post are Old Man Emus. Not sure what the rear red one's are.

Anyhow, I need some help here w/ a section of the rear axle that appears to be making contact in the rear floorboard. From inside, it simply looks like the floor was "massaged" for some misc. part underneath. But when poking around, it appear the track bar mount? has 3 possible positions. the lowest is where it currently is. Can someone tell me the circumstances in which the top hole might be utilized? I'm considering simply cutting it off.

fattirewilly 12-16-2012 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric2300jeep (Post 3109166)
Well I'm just gonna be blunt with you. You should not attempt crawling over any rock bigger than a soccer ball. Simply because you have stock suspension and stock height tires. That's why you have no skids in those places. Rocks that are big enough to do damage to those areas you simply can't tackle. Frankly this Jeep was not built for 4x4ing. You could build it for 4x4ing though. Put about $4k into a nice lift and then another $2.5k in tires and beadlock rims and you can start getting into "technical trails". Oh and you should check the gearing in your transfer case and axles. I highly recommend a 4:1 low kit or lower in your t-case for "technical trails". The slower, the easier, to navigate the rocks that come up to your chest. I'm sure she's quick though!

Thanks Eric, you got me poking around on the ground a bit more, maybe okay at basketball size? Ha ha, had to try it, basket ball looks okay to me? The tires are 265/70 -R16 which converts out to 31 inches x 10.4. My understanding is this is the biggest you go w/ out a lift. I want to offroad this Jeep, I just don't want to be to crazy w/ it and risk tearing something up.

The front shocks I hadn't looked at, which I didn't have listed in the first post, are Old Man Emus, and someone put some thought into that brake line. Not sure what the rear red one's are. It also has Rubicon Manufacturing control arms. If I wanted to lift this (and I'm not sure I do), I'm thinking that buying one of the kits is probably not the way to go. I'd need to piece something together.

Anyhow, I need some help here w/ a section of the rear axle that appears to be making contact in the rear floorboard. From inside, it simply looks like the floor was "massaged" for some misc. part underneath. But when poking around, it appear the track bar mount? has 3 possible positions. the lowest is where it currently is. Can someone tell me the circumstances in which the top hole might be utilized? I'm considering simply cutting off the top hole. It's the photo with my fingers in it, one finger pointing at the dent, the other at the top hole which is only 1/2 visible. This link shows the piece of metal with the vertical string of three holes on the left hand side of the axle. Currie Enterprises CJ Axle Parts

fattirewilly 12-20-2012 09:06 PM

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Okay, so I did the first mod of my own, added a Smittybuilt fold and tumble back seat because it came w/out a seat. Why Smittybuilt? The tan color was right! Took the kids on their first "joyride". :thumb:

BTW, Smitty does not include the 4 metric bolts need for the floor brackets, the instructions say to "reuse" the existing ones (which of course didn't exist)...morons.... YJ bolts don't work...second trip to Lowes, M8x1.25x35 work in the earlier YJ's including my 2000. I read where you might try an M10 in later YJ's.

On my prior question w/ the 3 holes in the bracket on top of the axle, a friend's Jeep has an aftermarket bracket extending up to provide a taller mounting positing for his sway bar (I believe it's the sway bar...maybe trackbar). He has a 4 inch lift and the bracket was supplied w/ his kit. Does that mean I might not use the top hole on a Currie axle's bracket unless I go for a 6" lift? Poor taste to cut off the top hole? Or look into a 1" body lift to fix the rub issue?

TwoJeepsinTx 12-20-2012 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric2300jeep (Post 3109166)
Well I'm just gonna be blunt with you. You should not attempt crawling over any rock bigger than a soccer ball. Simply because you have stock suspension and stock height tires. That's why you have no skids in those places. Rocks that are big enough to do damage to those areas you simply can't tackle. Frankly this Jeep was not built for 4x4ing. You could build it for 4x4ing though. Put about $4k into a nice lift and then another $2.5k in tires and beadlock rims and you can start getting into "technical trails". Oh and you should check the gearing in your transfer case and axles. I highly recommend a 4:1 low kit or lower in your t-case for "technical trails". The slower, the easier, to navigate the rocks that come up to your chest. I'm sure she's quick though!

While your suggestions would make a badass jeep, surely he'd be fine offroad without a 4 grand lift, beadlocks and a t-case conversion....

SeVeReDiStOrTiOn 12-21-2012 01:19 AM

Nice jeep. In your mod list it says you have a LS6 manifold on but the pic looks like a truck manifold...LQ9 maybe? Which heads are on there can you take a pic of the casting number?

browjenofer 12-21-2012 01:35 AM

The slower, the easier, to navigate the rocks that come up to your chest. I'm sure she's quick though!http://www.wengmj.com/a126.jpghttp://www.wengmj.com/uk.jpg

fattirewilly 12-22-2012 04:49 PM

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Nice jeep. In your mod list it says you have a LS6 manifold on but the pic looks like a truck manifold...LQ9 maybe? Which heads are on there can you take a pic of the casting number?

Hmmm, the LS6 looks like it might have been part of the prior engine build, this thing actually had an LS2 prior to the LS7. I got that LS6 info from a stack of receipts and I've been trying to weed out all the old build info.

The heads look like L92's. I have a thread going on over on LS1tech just trying to see if there is any "easy" power left on the table. With an L92 intake, truck manifolds, and single exhaust, it's possible.

SeVeReDiStOrTiOn 12-22-2012 06:10 PM

Ooooo 823's nice!! Yea they're L92 heads...i've been out of the LS world for awhile but I still remember that :) I had p&p 243's on my old maro and your 823's would out flow them as they sit. I wonder what cam is in that beast...does it lope at all?

Eric2300jeep 12-23-2012 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TwoJeepsinTx

While your suggestions would make a badass jeep, surely he'd be fine offroad without a 4 grand lift, beadlocks and a t-case conversion....

I'm just going by what he said, and he did say "technical trails" :)

Eric2300jeep 12-23-2012 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fattirewilly

On my prior question w/ the 3 holes in the bracket on top of the axle, a friend's Jeep has an aftermarket bracket extending up to provide a taller mounting positing for his sway bar (I believe it's the sway bar...maybe trackbar). He has a 4 inch lift and the bracket was supplied w/ his kit. Does that mean I might not use the top hole on a Currie axle's bracket unless I go for a 6" lift? Poor taste to cut off the top hole? Or look into a 1" body lift to fix the rub issue?

If its a thick bar going from the top of one side of the axle to the frame, it's def the Tracbar. And I would def not cut it. Depending on what size lift you end up going with, you may need that hole height. I also have an aftermarket rear tracbar bracket. The stock one cracked, cut it off and I got a 1/4inch one welded on. A one inch body would do the trick. I wouldn't go much more than that though

fattirewilly 01-01-2013 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SeVeReDiStOrTiOn (Post 3133381)
I wonder what cam is in that beast...does it lope at all?

It doesn't lope much, I guess you'd say it's very "drivable".

Eric2300, thanks for the input on the track bar. The axles are geared 4.09 or 4.1. Don't know the transfer case low gearing but it's lower than any pickup I've had. Also, interesting, the brakes don't stop it in low, I can get on the brakes, and it just keeps inching forward. It won't stop til I put it in neutral.

My brother is a sound geek from Nashville and was visiting over Christmas. We put in two powered 8" subs under the rear seat. It came from the previous owner w/ Infinity's in the dash and soundbar, but if you sent any base to them there was annoying vibration in the soundbar. The sound is all good now :punk:

fattirewilly 01-14-2013 09:18 PM

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What are these two plugs, one each on each side of the cig. lighter? In my hand is a plug or cover that goes into the hole.

12v outlets? If so, what would you plug into them?

dixau11 01-14-2013 11:56 PM

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What are these two plugs, one each on each side of the cig. lighter? In my hand is a plug or cover that goes into the hole.

12v outlets? If so, what would you plug into them?

Looks like the precious owner made a headphone jack of some kind in the dash.. Follow the wire to the headset I bet..

fattirewilly 01-28-2013 07:30 PM

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Photos of 2 Sound Ordinance 8's under the fold and tumble back seat. Also got the CB installed.

Up next, covering that oil and transmission front w/ a front skid plate. I'm not sure if that will result in a custom skid/tuck for the whole thing or just an extra plate up front. I'm not sure about a lift and 33's as it would comprise the street ability and sleeper appeal, but I want the bottom buttoned up for some wheeling, and I'll go from there.

dylan1991 01-29-2013 01:13 AM

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Photos of 2 Sound Ordinance 8's under the fold and tumble back seat. Also got the CB installed.

Up next, covering that oil and transmission front w/ a front skid plate. I'm not sure if that will result in a custom skid/tuck for the whole thing or just an extra plate up front. I'm not sure about a lift and 33's as it would comprise the street ability and sleeper appeal, but I want the bottom buttoned up for some wheeling, and I'll go from there.


What do those two switches near the gear shifter do?

fattirewilly 01-29-2013 08:14 AM

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What do those two switches near the gear shifter do?


Nitrous oxide, kidding. The two next to the shifter are for the heated seats.

The green one on the dash changes the transmission programing/shift points for 4-lo, which sadly I haven't played with much yet, just enough to be sure it worked.

ChaddG 02-07-2013 09:14 AM

yellow struts are the cheapo monroe shocks, at least thats what mine are and they look similar :) advance auto parts sells em for cheap

fattirewilly 05-29-2013 09:30 PM

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Well, I added a Warn Zeon winch. About a week or two later my 2.5 OME lift, OME steering stabilizer, extended JKS sway disconnects and adjustable JKS trackbars came in. This is about the only pick of the install in progress.

I didn't want to ruin the road worthiness by going too high with the lift. It will run the 1/4 mile from time to time.

The old front shocks were OME as well, not the Monroe's as suggested. The steering stabilizer had developed what looked like a leak.

callbob 05-29-2013 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric2300jeep (Post 3109166)
Well I'm just gonna be blunt with you. You should not attempt crawling over any rock bigger than a soccer ball. Simply because you have stock suspension and stock height tires. That's why you have no skids in those places. Rocks that are big enough to do damage to those areas you simply can't tackle. Frankly this Jeep was not built for 4x4ing. You could build it for 4x4ing though. Put about $4k into a nice lift and then another $2.5k in tires and beadlock rims and you can start getting into "technical trails". Oh and you should check the gearing in your transfer case and axles. I highly recommend a 4:1 low kit or lower in your t-case for "technical trails". The slower, the easier, to navigate the rocks that come up to your chest. I'm sure she's quick though!

you need to read better and look at pics. He has an Atlas under there. Although I do agree a lift (which he is doing) and better shocks etc are in order, beadlocks are not a must have, just more money depending on what he wants to do.

fattirewilly 05-29-2013 10:23 PM

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you need to read better and look at pics. He has an Atlas under there. Although I do agree a lift (which he is doing) and better shocks etc are in order, beadlocks are not a must have, just more money depending on what he wants to do.

It's all good. I've learned a ton about Jeeps since I started this thread. "Technical trails" may be a bit of an over statement. My Jeep certainly isn't built for the Hammers, but I gotta admit to drooling over the Yellow jeep on the cover of Crawl that ran the Hammers. I certainly plan to get into enough trouble to use the winch.

Attached photo shows a Warn engine skid I bought off Craigslist. A temporary item saving the bacon on my aluminum oil pan til I figure out a better full skid plate system.

The drive shaft rubbed the top of the hoop in the photo, maybe I have a high pinion. So anyhow it was modified with the hoop cut, then inverted/running under the shaft. It hangs about about an inch below the pan I'll have to get a new pic.

callbob 05-29-2013 10:56 PM

didn't mean to sound pissy, but so many people post something without reading everything. The Atlas transfer case is about a 3K upgrade so good there. Gears should be around 456 I would guess with the curries but don't know and going with a 2.5 lift you can probably get by with 33 tires as long as you don't get to twisty on flex. Lots of good parts there IMO, just need to finish up the off road stuff. Good Luck, nice jeep.

fattirewilly 08-31-2013 04:43 PM

Thanks callbob.

JCR rear bumper and tire carrier on way, probably about a week or two!

Once that is done, I plan on getting some 32" tires which will give me a nice compromise between street and trails. I've gone everywhere I want to go w/ Firestone Destination AT's except when the mud is steep and slick, then I've had to winch.

Seems like everything I do adds 100 pounds


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