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Krew12 12-18-2012 10:59 AM

Jeep stalling from rain
 
Hey guys! just joined the forum officially today but have been visiting the site for 3 weeks now looking at threads and you guys seem to know alot about these great pieces of machinery so i would like to throw out an issue im having. first off, i have a 1997 jeep wrangler 4cyl 5spd that i absolutely love and picked up for 600 bucks a month ago. yesterday it was pouring when i was coming back from the gym and about a mile away from my house it completely stalled on me. i spent about 10 mins trying to get it started again till it finally started back up and would idle. as soon as i put it into first gear and tried to move it, it would stall again. The check engine light came on for a split second and then would go off. i then grabbed my pickup and towed it up to my house. I hooked it up to my code reader and it passed.

I then for some reason got it to actually move.i took it back out and drove it around the block but if i put alot of load on it it would start to sputter like it wanted to stall.

Today it is nice and sunny and i have absolutely no problem with it. even at higher rpms like i did last night, i didn't get any hesitation. Im thinking the rain might be shorting something out. where do i even begin? From reading threads on here I have looked at the wires from the cps and they are fine. is there anyone out there who has had the same issue?

cedar 12-18-2012 11:43 AM

Not sure what wrong with it but I like the fact that you paid $600!!

Jerry Bransford 12-18-2012 11:51 AM

That sounds like moisture has made its way into your ignition system. When the distributor cap wears, it doesn't seal as well around the base of the distributor housing which can let moisture in. When the ignition wiring gets old and starts cracking, moisture can start causing the spark to leak out & short to the engine block.

What would do with a vehicle that has problems in wet weather like you are having would be to first replace the distributor cap, rotor, and ignition wiring. And your Jeep is definitely old enough to be past the point all of those items should have been replaced. Stick with good quality for those items... go with a distributor cap & rotor that have brass contacts, those with aluminum don't last as long.

For the ignition wiring, I'd stick with the OE/factory wiring from the dealer. Many aftermarket ignition wiring sets just create problems... especially those that misleadingly push "Low Resistance" which usually just creates problems. In the case of ignition wiring, and as odd/wrong as I know this may sound, low resistance is actually something that is a negative. Resistance is actually added to ignition wiring on purpose at extra cost to eliminate static & interference with the radio and engine computer. And as hard as this may be to believe, that added resistance doesn't really harm performance or reduce voltage at the spark plugs in a significant amount. Ohm's Law & all that. Really. :)

Krew12 12-18-2012 12:09 PM

Jerry- i did a little test to see if i could produce the same results. i took my hose and turned on the jeep (while the engine was cold) and made it rain under the hood. i started behind the engine where the cps is. absolutely nothing. i went to the other side and sprayed where the spark plug wires are.

it immediately stalled! at least i no now where the issue is.

so i should just change the distributor and spark plug wires?

and cedar, i like that i paid 600 too. i bought it from my neighbor. he said it didn't start, so i towed it up to my house and put it on the charger and it started right up. I had to replace one of the hard brake lines because it broke, the serpentine belt and the bolt that adjusts the tensioner since it broke because it was rusty as hell, and the shocks and battery. Its a little rusty, but it runs like a champ besides this issue i'm having now.

Jerry Bransford 12-18-2012 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Krew12 (Post 3117863)
Jerry- i did a little test to see if i could produce the same results. i took my hose and turned on the jeep (while the engine was cold) and made it rain under the hood. i started behind the engine where the cps is. absolutely nothing. i went to the other side and sprayed where the spark plug wires are.

it immediately stalled! at least i no now where the issue is.

so i should just change the distributor and spark plug wires?

Yes, a new distributor cap, rotor, and OE ignition wires should take care of your issue. While you're there, you might as well change the spark plugs too. Three very good spark plugs would be the Autolite AP-985, Champion 3034, or Autolite XP-985.

Krew12 12-18-2012 12:21 PM

Thanks Jerry, you have been a great help. Hopefully I will hear from you if i have anymore issues. Ill let everyone know how it goes.:)

Krew12 12-24-2012 07:38 PM

Changed the dist. rotor spark plugs and wires. Fixed everything not stalling anymore. Thanks again

Coastiejeep 12-24-2012 09:12 PM

Welcome to Forum, and Jerry is right on most things 99.98% of the time. He will forget more Jeep knowledge than most will ever know. If I see he posted on something I will read it, even if it is a problem I have not encountered yet. Yet being the key word lol.

TJ Green 12-26-2012 11:21 AM

you can open the hood at night ,sometimes that will show spark in the dark, not sure if your jeep has a coil but i have had this issue with a cracked coil

Krew12 12-26-2012 08:34 PM

it did it again tonight. we had a big snow storm that turned to rain and it did the same exact thing that I explained. I pulled off the Distributer but there was no condensation. The only thing i have not replaced was the coil so I'm thinking that that's the issue. Its funny i was hauling ass in it all day in the snow and nothing but then it changed to rain and it stalled on me again. I HATE SITTING IN A DEAD CAR IN THE RAIN!!!!!!!

Krew12 12-27-2012 04:54 PM

Found the issue!!!
 
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Well changed the ig. coil ten minutes ago. I believe this is what was cause my short:nonono:


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