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ccb1 12-24-2012 02:23 AM

Water in the engine
 
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I was playing in the water and made it through a puddle that was a couple feet deep before the last time when I hit it with too much speed and got water in my air box? It stalled immediately and out of ignorance I tried to start it while my pipes were under water; no bueno! I got pulled out then tried to crank it again. Cranked but made a funny sound. We pulled the air box and was quite a bit of water in it, filter was soaked, as well as water through the throttle control flap/valve inside the top part of the engine.

The ignorance continues!

Because it wouldn't start by cranking it over we decided to do it manually by pulling it behind a truck and popping the clutch. It worked however it is making a sound when idling now that sounds like a hammer hitting the engine. Would this be a bent camshaft?

I apologize for my idiocy but any thoughts on problem?

ccb1 12-24-2012 02:25 AM

Oh I drained and got all the water out of the air box before I started it manually!

JB71 12-24-2012 02:53 AM

Sounds like you hydro-locked the engine. Most likely the noise you're hearing is a bent connecting rod hitting the block, pretty sure the engine is toast. Not what you wanted to hear I'm sure but it sure sounds like that's what happend....sorry.

ccb1 12-24-2012 03:39 AM

It is still able to run. But it sounds like crap and rough... Would this still be hydro locked?

ccb1 12-24-2012 04:12 AM

And/or what does hydro locked mean? And how would I check to determine

JVLemur 12-24-2012 04:34 AM

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And/or what does hydro locked mean? And how would I check to determine

Hyrdolock means liquid has entered the combustion chamber, and because liquid does not compress, engine must stop(lock) or itll fail. If you're hearing a knock it might be a bent rod.

Powderburn 12-24-2012 04:50 AM

I did this exact same thing, only it wouldn't turn over at all. It was super mega hydro locked. I would agree, time for a new engine, and a snorkel.

Raiderfan001 12-24-2012 04:57 AM

Expensive lesson learned. Don't play in the water without the proper setup. And if you do suck water pull the plugs before trying to start it next time.

johnnyjellybean 12-24-2012 04:59 AM

Time for a hemi!

Wharfrat 12-24-2012 06:27 AM

This is why you pull all the plugs and turn the engine over with them out before trying to start it. It will evacuate the water out of the spark plug holes.

You blew your engine, dude.

dale 3 12-24-2012 06:59 AM

If you don't know the basic's of WHEELIN :dance: Stay in the mall parking lot.It's a lot cheaper.

8figgas 12-24-2012 07:03 AM

I hear it knocking from wwaayy over here... Clang, ping, BOOM!

Silverton34 12-24-2012 07:12 AM

Pull the dipstick, (the one under the hood, please) and see how much water is in the oil. It probably doesn't matter as the engine is now likely a large paper weight.

Oh, call your insurance company and inform them of what happened when you hit that low spot in the road that was flooded.

Ltblue 12-24-2012 07:20 AM

Hope you have an extra $8000 for the new engine/Hemi..

fljeepleo 12-24-2012 07:29 AM

What a nightmare! I did this with my first TJ when I was 16 years old, it was 3 weeks old and sunk it to the headlights. Very expensive lesson learned!

3JKs1H1 12-24-2012 07:31 AM

You need a functional snorkel, like this guy:

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8figgas 12-24-2012 07:40 AM

You need to search the forum(s) for a recently pulled engine, for swap purposes. Some can be had for cheap. http://www.jk-forum.com/modified-jk-...-253565/page2/

enjerhoo 12-24-2012 12:46 PM

So do you plan on attempting to change out the engine yourself? Can't hurt at this point if its already trash. Might learn something if you feel spry

I blew a $1500 flat screen TV once. Took it apart, found some bad capacitors, desoldered, replaced & bang, now I'm a TV repair man too. Whenever I break something, I almost always take it apart whether it's a drill, toaster, computer tranny etc. Call it monkey curiosity. WTF. If you do, take some pics of the #2 exhaust lifter. I am sure everyone here would like to see it.

jadmt 12-24-2012 01:01 PM

Is the engine throwing any codes. I know the general consinsous (sp?) is hydrolocked bending rods etc but there are other things that can cause rough running too. I would start with the simple things first.

JVLemur 12-24-2012 02:10 PM

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Is the engine throwing any codes. I know the general consinsous (sp?) is hydrolocked bending rods etc but there are other things that can cause rough running too. I would start with the simple things first.

Could be the plugs are done, possible even just bad compression, but since he said there's a knock, it's most likely a bent rod.

landi jeep 12-24-2012 02:17 PM

Wash it up and trade her in

kik 12-24-2012 02:19 PM

Water = slow. A stock JK can handle the water you're in if you go slow. You most likely have a bent rod. However, checking for codes is a good place to start. Inexperience = $. Hope you can get it taken care of.

Barrie 12-24-2012 02:29 PM

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if you don't know the basic's of wheelin :dance: Stay in the mall parking lot.it's a lot cheaper.



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JKWrangler2012 12-24-2012 02:53 PM

Ouch!

Was wondering if the pentastar can be caught in gear.. I reckon yes!

mflint1513 12-24-2012 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dale 3
If you don't know the basic's of WHEELIN :dance: Stay in the mall parking lot.It's a lot cheaper.

Most things we do are learned behavior. Much like grammar mechanics that teach us that an apostrophe is not for use as you did here. But I digress...the OP is probably learning, much like you did at one point, only this was potentially quite costly.

Good luck, OP!

bc3_Jeep 12-25-2012 12:38 AM

Broken/bent pieces can be replaced. Been there, done that, when I blew the wall out of a motorcycle block long ago with a broken connecting rod. Fixed the wall it with some JB Weld, replaced piston and rod..... and rode that bike for a few thousand more miles....... saved 100s of $$$$$$$.

Maybe the lesson to learn, is to look before you leap........ into water OR huge $$$$ repairs.....get many opinions IN PERSON...... before you make major $$$$$ choices.

Learn the differences between Short Block, Long Block, factory reman,.....etc......

Lusus_Naturae 12-25-2012 08:02 PM

At least he didn't blow the 4th rod out the bottom of the engine like I did when I hydrolocked my Porsche in a dip in the road. Long block... $$


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