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Wrongside 08-28-2008 07:25 PM

Before I order...Please comment
 
I plan on starting my build on my 99 stocker here in the next couple of weeks. What should I go with first, last etc?

Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ 33 12.5 15, all 5 (Are these a good choice?)

15x10.5 black steel rims, all 5 (I hate fancy rims)

RE 3.5" Super Flex Lift Kit (What shocks brand/size should I get?)

Super 35 axel kit with Detroit Locker (Should I change my gears? to what?)


A buddy is a welder and has a pipe bender so he is custom fabing front/rear bumpers and sliders for me. He did it to his 99 Toyota PU, full inner cage, open bed frame etc. Should I spend the money on what I want or have him fab what I want?

With all that what else would I need so I don't "break" anything on the trails?

All in alll I want to spend no more than $3-3.5k but still have a quality build. Any other ideas?

Thanks
-Matt :blunt:

AzTJ 08-28-2008 07:36 PM

What motor tranny do you have? I see you are wanting the Super35 kit... are you dead set on 33" tires?

I'm running a RE 3.5" lift with 32" tires and really don't see much of a reason for 33's. 33" tires will also really bog you down without a re-gear.

I'd also recommend a SYE kit and new driveshaft so you don't have to lower the skidplate and lose the ground clearance you just spent so much money for. Rear upper adjustable arms are a good idea too.

Wrongside 08-28-2008 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AzTJ (Post 259224)
What motor tranny do you have? I see you are wanting the Super35 kit... are you dead set on 33" tires?

I'm running a RE 3.5" lift with 32" tires and really don't see much of a reason for 33's. 33" tires will also really bog you down without a re-gear.

I'd also recommend a SYE kit and new driveshaft so you don't have to lower the skidplate and lose the ground clearance you just spent so much money for. Rear upper adjustable arms are a good idea too.

I have the 4.0 5speed. I don't want to break anything in the rear, since it's a daily driver also, so I was told by some of the gents on this board to do the Super 35 kit, plus I want a locker in the rear.

32's will be fine if I dont' need to regear.

SYE kit (no idea what that is), driveshaft, and rear upper adjustable arms...what brand?

I'm still VERY new to off roading.

I forgot to mention also that the Jeep has a cheap 2in Procomp lift on it now, from previous owner.

Jerry Bransford 08-28-2008 07:50 PM

The only change I strongly suggest is going with 15x8 wheels for those 32x12.50 tires instead of the 15x10 wheels. 15x10 is ok for street use but 15x8 will work better offroad as well as still working fine on the street. The narrower width of a 15x8 wheel means the tire won't have to work as hard to stay seated when aired down for offroading. :)

AzTJ 08-28-2008 07:53 PM

SYE = Slip yoke eliminator.

This will make the rear of the transfer case a fixed yoke and put the slip/slide in the driveshaft.

I got my Rubicon Express kit from 4x4groupbuy.com - I got the 4.5" kit actually with 3.5" spring because I wanted the upper adjustable arms for the front and rear. I think I paid ~$1400 for the kit, sye & driveshaft. The SYE and driveshaft came as a combo with the kit. Got it all done in one shot.

4Jeepn 08-28-2008 08:00 PM

Okay, If its your daily driver ditch the detriot and get either an ARB or Ox Locker back there. Also price it out and see how much a used TJ dana 44 will set you back. yes the super 35 is nice and will be fine wiht 33 and locker, but a 44 is much nicer.

Wrongside 08-28-2008 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AzTJ (Post 259232)
SYE = Slip yoke eliminator.

This will make the rear of the transfer case a fixed yoke and put the slip/slide in the driveshaft.

I got my Rubicon Express kit from 4x4groupbuy.com - I got the 4.5" kit actually with 3.5" spring because I wanted the upper adjustable arms for the front and rear. I think I paid ~$1400 for the kit, sye & driveshaft. The SYE and driveshaft came as a combo with the kit. Got it all done in one shot.

You have a pic so i can see what it looks like with the 32's?

Wrongside 08-28-2008 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Jeepn (Post 259234)
Okay, If its your daily driver ditch the detriot and get either an ARB or Ox Locker back there. Also price it out and see how much a used TJ dana 44 will set you back. yes the super 35 is nice and will be fine wiht 33 and locker, but a 44 is much nicer.

Does the 44 come complete or would I need to purchase a locker or anything....may be a stupid Q but had to ask

AzTJ 08-28-2008 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Wrongside (Post 259237)
You have a pic so i can see what it looks like with the 32's?

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...tuff/side2.jpg

ChrisTX 08-28-2008 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzTJ (Post 259224)
I'm running a RE 3.5" lift with 32" tires and really don't see much of a reason for 33's. 33" tires will also really bog you down without a re-gear.

You think 1" of difference in tire size is going to make that big of a difference? I wouldn't do 32s with that lift. I know guys running 35s with that lift and a 1" body lift. If the gears suck with 33s, they'll suck with 32s.

AzTJ 08-28-2008 08:48 PM

Anything larger than stock will bog down without gears, its not the overall size but the added weight.

Wrongside 08-28-2008 09:17 PM

Dana 44


What would I have to do to put that in?

cavediverjc 08-28-2008 09:21 PM

Make sure the gears are the same as the front diff and take out your D35 and direct swap the D44. Simple. Can be done in no time if you have the right tools.

ChrisTX 08-28-2008 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AzTJ (Post 259265)
Anything larger than stock will bog down without gears, its not the overall size but the added weight.

I realize that, but you think 32s are going to be that big of a difference over 33s? It's a waste of money to buy 32s.

4Jeepn 08-28-2008 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Wrongside (Post 259278)
Dana 44


What would I have to do to put that in?

weld on coil spring brackets, make sure its the right width for a TJ. For comparison a stock tj 44 is going for $750 in the CA area on car-part.com You would need to add a locker to either one.

AzTJ 08-28-2008 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisTX (Post 259293)
I realize that, but you think 32s are going to be that big of a difference over 33s? It's a waste of money to buy 32s.

That is a matter of preference... but buying tires all together is a waste of money. They just wear out or tear or blow up. :rolleyes:

Wrongside 08-28-2008 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzTJ (Post 259232)
SYE = Slip yoke eliminator.

This will make the rear of the transfer case a fixed yoke and put the slip/slide in the driveshaft.

I got my Rubicon Express kit from 4x4groupbuy.com - I got the 4.5" kit actually with 3.5" spring because I wanted the upper adjustable arms for the front and rear. I think I paid ~$1400 for the kit, sye & driveshaft. The SYE and driveshaft came as a combo with the kit. Got it all done in one shot.

Just looked up that kit......It's 3200 not 1400

4.5" Rubicon Express Ultimate Superflex Kit for TJ /LJ Wrangler

AzTJ 08-28-2008 11:18 PM

That's the one that comes with 35" tires and wheels as well.
I got this one: Rubicon Express RE7000 4.5 Super-Flex Kit & SYE Combo

I got the RE Twin-TUbe shows, but I'd stay away from them. A little on the rough side. And at the begining of Feb or something, Rubicon Express has raised their prices some.
I bought my tires and wheels at a place in Mesa.

Wrongside 08-28-2008 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AzTJ (Post 259327)
That's the one that comes with 35" tires and wheels as well.
I got this one: Rubicon Express RE7000 4.5 Super-Flex Kit & SYE Combo

I got the RE Twin-TUbe shows, but I'd stay away from them. A little on the rough side. And at the begining of Feb or something, Rubicon Express has raised their prices some.
I bought my tires and wheels at a place in Mesa.



Now that is right up my alley...:D

With a D44 or a Super 35 I whould be pretty good for awhile.

All the RE kits can be upgraded to the LA kits eventually right?

AzTJ 08-28-2008 11:44 PM

Pretty much. :D

With a D44 your pretty much set for tires up to 35"... and Dana35 with a Super kit is still a risk(others might say differently). But I'm gentle on my rig so I don't see any axle breaking in the near future.


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