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JRains 01-07-2013 10:47 PM

Picking out a jeep...
 
Hey guys,
I'm new here and its something I've been wanting to do for a while. I really wanna get a jeep. I don't have one yet but I am very serious about getting one. The use of the jeep would be a DD but also used for off roading. Such as mudding and light crawling. The reason I will DD it also is cause I live in Ohio, and the weather here is either really nice or sucks.

Anyways. Im a high school student still but this is a project I intend to do as I can. So my question is what kind of jeep should I get and why? Basically I want the ups and downs of different models, things I should avoid, and possibly contrasting the good models. I.e. TJ vs YJ.

Oh by the way I am ASE cert and have a full snap on arsenal at my disposal. So the only object really is money.

Thanks!

JRains 01-07-2013 10:49 PM

By the way I am on a budget and looking for used. So I can't obviously get a thing too nice...

djwrangler 01-08-2013 03:15 PM

YJ with a 6 cylinder would be what Id look for if I were you.

You seem pretty mechanically inclined which is a good thing with any Jeep. YJs are easy to work on, cheaper, simple leaf spring design which makes axle swaps easier down the road, high pinion front axle, highly upgradeable just like any other Jeep.

TJs are nice too. The major differences being coil springs instead of leaf springs, updated interior, and round vs square headlights.

Good luck in your search!

YJmaddness 01-08-2013 03:41 PM

I've learned a lot from my Yj. I would recommend one for a first Jeep.

mmmanimalfat 01-09-2013 11:05 AM

I'm currently in my first jeep. I know the 4cyl is not typically the sought after platform, but that's what I have right now. I also use mine everyday with no "serious" off roading yet, but wouldnt be totally out of the question. A few reasons I went with the 4cyl are as follows. the 4.0 liter platforms are fetching serious money for (mines a 97) a 14-15 year old vehicle. In my price range everything had at least 120,000 miles on it. well I dont know many people that would consider this eligible for daily driving. also, after test driving a few tj's and yj's, the tj's interior is just a much more suitable place to be everyday. For me, if I wanted a weekend/nice day vehicle to turn into a toy, a yj would fit the bill very nicely. I found my fully stock tj with just under 80,000 miles, maintenance beautifully documented for $5000. so how am I supposed to pass that up as a first jeep. I came from a well built wrx and I really love the simplicity of the jeep. but for sure (for me) the tj was the way to go for using it everyday. I really enjoy the 2.5 liter so far. I use it mainly to drive everyday and not offroad, but really cannot see myself demanding more power without going 8cyl. owning and further researching the 4cyl, you start to find little things that really made me happy i was able to find such a low mileage example. they have 4.10 gears which I read make 33" tires more liveble than the stock 6cyl gears. I know a gear change is recommended anyway for that size tires, but from my reading the 4.10's make it at least livable. I am in the process of putting together the parts for my budget boost, 31x10.5 setup as we speak, but if you do wheel it on certain terrain, 33's might suit you a little better. then again, for me, I couldn't see wanting larger than 33's on a daily driver with the necessary amount of lift needed to really move that size tire, I feel like you're on that line of being able to use it everyday and it being annoying to use everyday. Again, this is all my opinion and a new jeeper opinion at that. I very well may have no idea what I am talking about, but this is just my first hand experience and findings after about 6 month of jeep owning. I was in my subaru for about 8 years and built it myself. I am still active on the subaru forums. I am no stranger to mechanics and building vehicles, but I am still getting to know the jeep. Take my words with a grain of salt as again, this is just my experience. All of that being said, good luck! and I'm sure you find something that suits your needs...these things are so much fun!

jokerchief462 01-09-2013 12:32 PM

YJ or TJ if the budget is low but then comes the mods if not installed. So count your money plan a platform and research. When you go to purchase check out the forum page for that model ad see the issues the older Jeeps go through. Go for a 6 cylinder and you won't be dissappointed. I have a 2.5 TBI four cylinder and we get a long just great. We are both old and slow. But the mods and repairs add up. Take a friend who is savvy with mechanical stuff on cars check for rust and make sure the PO didn't hack it up and did any mods correctly. There are a lot of good Jeeps to be had.

tigerblood 01-09-2013 02:42 PM

my recomendation would be look for something fuel injected, like a 91-95 yj

JRains 01-13-2013 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djwrangler (Post 3200095)
YJ with a 6 cylinder would be what Id look for if I were you.

You seem pretty mechanically inclined which is a good thing with any Jeep. YJs are easy to work on, cheaper, simple leaf spring design which makes axle swaps easier down the road, high pinion front axle, highly upgradeable just like any other Jeep.

TJs are nice too. The major differences being coil springs instead of leaf springs, updated interior, and round vs square headlights.

Good luck in your search!

Yeah but that major difference in suspension is huge. Lifting leaf springs is a pain in the ass.

JRains 01-13-2013 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YJmaddness (Post 3200184)
I've learned a lot from my Yj. I would recommend one for a first Jeep.

Well I got to school for Automotive and have worked on plenty of cars so I know my way around. I'm looking for the big differences. And benefits. I'd prefer a TJ or a CJ.

JRains 01-13-2013 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jokerchief462 (Post 3204400)
YJ or TJ if the budget is low but then comes the mods if not installed. So count your money plan a platform and research. When you go to purchase check out the forum page for that model ad see the issues the older Jeeps go through. Go for a 6 cylinder and you won't be dissappointed. I have a 2.5 TBI four cylinder and we get a long just great. We are both old and slow. But the mods and repairs add up. Take a friend who is savvy with mechanical stuff on cars check for rust and make sure the PO didn't hack it up and did any mods correctly. There are a lot of good Jeeps to be had.

I have a preference for the 4.0l personally. I want to either get a TJ with a 6 or gut a CJ-7 and drop in a 402. I a ASE certified by the way. I can look it over. Haha. Thanks for the input though :D

JRains 01-13-2013 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigerblood (Post 3204952)
my recomendation would be look for something fuel injected, like a 91-95 yj

Oh why of course! The last thing I wanna deal with is carbs. Yeah they give you simplicity but at the price of reliability and power? No thanks.

JRains 01-13-2013 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmmanimalfat (Post 3204051)
I'm currently in my first jeep. I know the 4cyl is not typically the sought after platform, but that's what I have right now. I also use mine everyday with no "serious" off roading yet, but wouldnt be totally out of the question. A few reasons I went with the 4cyl are as follows. the 4.0 liter platforms are fetching serious money for (mines a 97) a 14-15 year old vehicle. In my price range everything had at least 120,000 miles on it. well I dont know many people that would consider this eligible for daily driving. also, after test driving a few tj's and yj's, the tj's interior is just a much more suitable place to be everyday. For me, if I wanted a weekend/nice day vehicle to turn into a toy, a yj would fit the bill very nicely. I found my fully stock tj with just under 80,000 miles, maintenance beautifully documented for $5000. so how am I supposed to pass that up as a first jeep. I came from a well built wrx and I really love the simplicity of the jeep. but for sure (for me) the tj was the way to go for using it everyday. I really enjoy the 2.5 liter so far. I use it mainly to drive everyday and not offroad, but really cannot see myself demanding more power without going 8cyl. owning and further researching the 4cyl, you start to find little things that really made me happy i was able to find such a low mileage example. they have 4.10 gears which I read make 33" tires more liveble than the stock 6cyl gears. I know a gear change is recommended anyway for that size tires, but from my reading the 4.10's make it at least livable. I am in the process of putting together the parts for my budget boost, 31x10.5 setup as we speak, but if you do wheel it on certain terrain, 33's might suit you a little better. then again, for me, I couldn't see wanting larger than 33's on a daily driver with the necessary amount of lift needed to really move that size tire, I feel like you're on that line of being able to use it everyday and it being annoying to use everyday. Again, this is all my opinion and a new jeeper opinion at that. I very well may have no idea what I am talking about, but this is just my first hand experience and findings after about 6 month of jeep owning. I was in my subaru for about 8 years and built it myself. I am still active on the subaru forums. I am no stranger to mechanics and building vehicles, but I am still getting to know the jeep. Take my words with a grain of salt as again, this is just my experience. All of that being said, good luck! and I'm sure you find something that suits your needs...these things are so much fun!

Well I really want a old CJ and to go the 9 yards with it. Rip it apart. Put a 402 in it. 5 spd. 6" lift. 2" body blocks. Some 35" Kelly's. Haha.

Oh and any pics of the WRX? I'd kill to get a special edition Tiger orange STI. That or paint one olive drab like an old Sherman tank.

VaJeepster 01-13-2013 08:19 AM

It's always been my dream to get a turbo diesel CJ or YJ and monster it up to fit back of tractor tires on it and you can run it through creeks and whatever you really want to haah

JRains 01-13-2013 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VaJeepster (Post 3222224)
It's always been my dream to get a turbo diesel CJ or YJ and monster it up to fit back of tractor tires on it and you can run it through creeks and whatever you really want to haah

Bt4 Cummins would be good for that. That's just like a bogger then. I want to retain street driveability.

mmmanimalfat 01-13-2013 08:53 AM

yes sir! here's mine

http://i.imgur.com/XJDHy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5S1qa.jpg

here's a few green ones that look really nice
http://i.imgur.com/0hYaz.jpg

this ones here in NY, I've seen it in person and now has gold wheels (i think) super well put together machine, rotated 36r (i think) and all.
http://i.imgur.com/QbEe3.jpg

and this ones a little too bright for the military look, but if you look (not too) closely, theres a little surprise in there. lol
http://i.imgur.com/nyKmW.jpg

I still miss her and it killed me to sell it after it broke a connecting rod at 178,000. but I have no place to put it until I can fix it and I needed a daily, so she had to go. One day, maybe I'll get another one just to have fun in.
but dont get off topic ;) good luck!

djwrangler 01-13-2013 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRains (Post 3222203)

Yeah but that major difference in suspension is huge. Lifting leaf springs is a pain in the ass.

why do you say that? lifting a leaf spring vehicle is actually pretty straight forward.

Loretta 01-13-2013 02:58 PM

Looking for lease silver 4-door Wrangler in South Florida
 
I'm looking to lease a new 2012 4-door Wrangler (hopefully bright silver). Any hints from this forum or from dealers who might have what I'm looking for. ASAP please. Serious - not just browsing.

whetstone 01-13-2013 03:46 PM

With your mechanical knowledge, you may be able to score a great deal by buying someone else's "problem" jeep and repairing it. I don't know all the ins and outs of each model, but I'd look for things like no rust and a sound motor and build from there...


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